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#3675761 - 11/05/12 05:45 PM Re: Pacific theater ignored? [Re: VMIalpha454]  
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This is not a PAW scenario, but it has some of the original PAW ships, which now need re-skinning smile
The ones shown are the originals which used coloured polygons, and we have modified 3dz files in which the coloured polygons have been converted to textured polygons. Now we need to create the textures, and this will take some time.













Once the conversion is done they can easily be added to a PAW scenario.
The PAW models are made from multiple TMods, and additional code had been added to display them in moving ground object (MGO) form.

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#3678003 - 11/08/12 04:52 PM Re: Pacific theater ignored? [Re: VMIalpha454]  
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I, too, long for a new WW2 Pacific air war sim. I was a grade school kid living on the US west coast then and I remember that time. I don't remember December 7 but I do remember Dec 8 with all the news on the radio. Wheaties had cutouts of various planes fighting over the Pacific on their cereal boxes. After I graduated from high school, I spent 20 years in the US Air Force. Wasn't a pilot, just a mechanic. After I retired, I eventually got a computer and found flight sims. The first one I bought was CFS2, becuz I had always wondered what it was like to land and take off from a carrier. I wish someone could take CFS2 and upgrade it to the level that Winding Man and his crew have done to CFS3 when they turned it into WW1 and Over Flanders Fields. Zerocinco and his crew have a real mission based Pacific War sim using the Third Wire engine. And there's another one out using CFS3 and PTO that's a stand alone, but it's a beta. But I still like OFF and it's all encompassing concept campaigns from all nationalities. That concept would make a great WW2 Pacific air war sim. Probably not in my life time, but I can cross my fingers.

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#3679421 - 11/10/12 08:45 PM Re: Pacific theater ignored? [Re: VMIalpha454]  
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If you dont mind the dated Strike Fighters engine, Yankee Air Pirate has created what we call Rising Sun. Covering the entire South Pacific from Burma to Tokyo. Flying just about everything in the PTO from land and sea. You can view the offering on Facebook.


http://www.facebook.com/pages/YankeeAirPirate/284823034925452

#3682648 - 11/15/12 04:06 PM Re: Pacific theater ignored? [Re: MrJelly]  
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Originally Posted By: MrJelly
Hey AO smile
What sim was that in the screenies?
Looked like a PAW scenario.

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#3690396 - 11/29/12 06:31 PM Re: Pacific theater ignored? [Re: VMIalpha454]  
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Originally Posted By: VMIalpha454
Being a huge fan of the Pacific theater of WWII, I can't help but notice the extreme lack of sims covering it. Why is this? My first instinct leads me to think that money is the cause. Perhaps developers don't feel that the topic will be profitable. So here is my question: why do you think the Pacific theater is less covered, or basically ignored, by sim developers? Is there THAT much interest in Europe, and THAT little interest in the Pacific? It's just a question that has been bugging me and I'm curious what the community thinks.


The Pacific Theater is much more one-sided than the ETO. It's hard to get people to play the Japanese side when the aircraft are slow and burn so well.

#3690554 - 11/30/12 12:36 AM Re: Pacific theater ignored? [Re: RoFfan]  
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Originally Posted By: RoFfan
Originally Posted By: VMIalpha454
Being a huge fan of the Pacific theater of WWII, I can't help but notice the extreme lack of sims covering it. Why is this? My first instinct leads me to think that money is the cause. Perhaps developers don't feel that the topic will be profitable. So here is my question: why do you think the Pacific theater is less covered, or basically ignored, by sim developers? Is there THAT much interest in Europe, and THAT little interest in the Pacific? It's just a question that has been bugging me and I'm curious what the community thinks.


The Pacific Theater is much more one-sided than the ETO. It's hard to get people to play the Japanese side when the aircraft are slow and burn so well.


I dont know about that RoFfan, Allied pilots flying in the PTO from 1941 till mid 1943 would probably not agree with that statement. Also the ETO was pretty much one sided early on too, 1943 seemed to be a very pivotal year in both the ETO/PTO theaters.
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#3690573 - 11/30/12 01:31 AM Re: Pacific theater ignored? [Re: VMIalpha454]  
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I agree with Godzilla...the Pacific theater was actually lopsided in favor of the Japanese during the early part of the war. It wasnt until 1943 that the momentum turned in favor of the allies.


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#3690636 - 11/30/12 05:38 AM Re: Pacific theater ignored? [Re: VMIalpha454]  
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And don't forget the Japanese did have some good aircraft later on in the war. In online engagements, declining Japanese pilot quality doesn't play a role of course, so it can make for some good matchups.

#3735560 - 02/14/13 09:21 PM Re: Pacific theater ignored? [Re: VMIalpha454]  
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You can Buy CFS2 and mode it up through its community or can you Buy IL46. It includes the ETO and the PTO. European Air war also has addon that include the Pacific Theater as well.

Here is where you can upgrade CFS2 http://205.252.250.26/cgi-bin/yabb25/YaBB.pl?num=1245961380

Here is where you can Buy IL46 http://www.amazon.com/IL2-Sturmovik-Series-Complete-Edition/dp/B00104X1WE/ref=pd_sim_vg_1

European Air War http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&key...sl_72or7s3yo4_e

Here is where you can get Pacific Theater campaign for EAW http://www.sandbagger.uk.com/home2.html

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#3736206 - 02/15/13 09:42 PM Re: Pacific theater ignored? [Re: miamieagle]  
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#3736378 - 02/16/13 05:25 AM Re: Pacific theater ignored? [Re: JAMF]  
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Originally Posted By: miamieagle

That is not IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 and it is not complete.
None of the current patches by the Daidalos Team will work with the"IL-2 Sturmovik Complete" version of the sim. smile

"IL-2 Sturmovik Complete" content.
  • IL-2 Sturmovik Forgotten Battles

  • IL-2 Sturmovik Forgotten Battles Ace Expansion Pack

  • Pacific Fighters


"IL-2 Sturmovik 1946" content:
  • IL-2 Sturmovik Forgotten Battles - v1.0 to v1.22

  • IL-2 Sturmovik Forgotten Battles Ace Expansion Pack - v2.0 to v2.04

  • Pacific Fighters - v3.00m - v4.04m
    (Pacific fighters was sold as a stand alone which also included the option to merge with IL-2 Sturmovik Forgotten Battles and Aces Expansion Pack content.
    hence the m designation in the version number. m=merged)

  • Pe-2 Peshka - v4.05m
    (The copy protection for the Pe-2 addon created several problems for the users. The copy protection was removed when it was added to the IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 release.)

  • Sturmoviks over Manchuria - v4.06m
    (The Sturmoviks over Manchuria addon was never sold separately and was simply included in the IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 release.)

  • 46 - v4.07m
    (The 46 addon was never sold separately and was simply included in the IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 release.)

IL-2 1946 at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/IL-2-Sturmovik-1946-Pc/dp/B000N4JENW
IL-2 1946 at Good Old Games: http://www.gog.com/gamecard/il_2_sturmovik_1946
(The GoG version has been patched to v4.10m)

If you buy the US DVD version of IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 you will not need to have the disc in the tray to play.
If you decide to buy the download version from Good Old Games there will be no copy protection either.



The GoG version has solved several inherit problems in the Steam version which is no longer being sold by Steam as of December 2012. Even UBI has stopped selling it in their online store.


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#3755025 - 03/21/13 06:27 PM Re: Pacific theater ignored? [Re: wheelsup_cavu]  
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Any recommendations for single player pacific campaigns that are compatible with IL-2:1946 4.11m?


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#3769389 - 04/18/13 05:22 AM Re: Pacific theater ignored? [Re: pakfront]  
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Originally Posted By: pakfront
Any recommendations for single player pacific campaigns that are compatible with IL-2:1946 4.11m?


Go to Mission4Today's Download area and type Pacific into the Search area. You should find something that interests you. smile
Downloads Search: http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=search


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#3774760 - 04/29/13 04:56 AM Re: Pacific theater ignored? [Re: VMIalpha454]  
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Back in the day, the BoBII folks publicized plans to do a AVG sim, but nothing ever came of it.

It is my fervent hope (though based on nothing) that 777 will tackle the PTO after BoS.

#3786638 - 05/23/13 05:05 PM Re: Pacific theater ignored? [Re: VMIalpha454]  
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One problem with the Pacific is the match ups. 1942 to mid 1943 is good, but once the Hellcat and Corsair come along, it's pretty tough to get by in a Zero. I know that the Japanese introduced new types like the Frank and George towards the end of the war, but that was way too little way too late. Mid 1943 - 1944, when the air war was irrevocably lost, their air technology mostly stagnated. By contrast, the German planes remained competitive to war's end.

I do like the carrier battles. If you combine that with air support missions a PAW sim could be fun beginning to end. But in truth, for me, most of the fun is 1942 - mid 1943. Aces of the Pacific certainly was (nothing more challenging that surviving in an Oscar).

#3786861 - 05/23/13 11:51 PM Re: Pacific theater ignored? [Re: VMIalpha454]  
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I'm not so sure Japans air technology was so stagnate late in the war. The Ki-84 Frank, J2m3 Raiden and N1K2 George which if maintained correctly, with experienced pilots and good AV fuel could match the Hellcats, Corsairs and Mustangs. Japan also had several interesting prototypes (the J7W Shinden, Nakajima Kikka and J8M Shusui are just a couple examples). Had the war gone into 1946 these aircraft could have reached production since all had some test flights done by 8/1945. But like late war Germany having no vast supply of experienced combat pilots left or the fuel to fly them was the biggest problems. But unlike RL were are never forced to play simulators under these conditions or restrictions.
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#3787101 - 05/24/13 05:20 PM Re: Pacific theater ignored? [Re: VMIalpha454]  
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My post said stagnant in the middle of the war - 1942 - late 1944. The Frank and George were examples of better aircraft, but these are relatively late war additions to the arsenal. I know less about the Pacific than Europe, but I believe that even in 1945 the Japanese were flying Zeros and Oscars (often on one way missions).

Might be different points of view. I tend to play historical campaigns offline, so flying a George or Frank is not something that I get to do for very long. I remember playing Japanese in Aces Over the Pacific and once I got into a Frank or George I could do just fine, but there was a full year and a half where surviving a mission was challenging. If I play Japanese I have to get by in Zeros and Oscars for a long time. Multiplayer folks can bypass the Oscar and hop into a better type provided it is available on the server.

#3787404 - 05/25/13 03:24 AM Re: Pacific theater ignored? [Re: VMIalpha454]  
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N1K1-J Shiden late 1943
N1K2-J Shiden Kai mid 1944
J2m2 Raiden late 1943
J2m3 Raiden mid 1944
Ki-44 Shoki late 1942
Ki-61 Hien late 1942
Ki-84 Hayate mid 1944
All operational at some point in the late 1942 mid 1944 timeframe. So I don't see how Japanese air technology can be considered stagnate from 1942 to late 1944? Now if you were saying Japanese aircraft production was stagnate for getting large numbers of new types into combat I would totally agree with you.

Best estimates put 10,449 Reisens and 5,919 Hayabusa of all variants produced during the Pacific war. So if a CFS is keeping within historical context it makes perfect sense you would see or have to fly longer careers in Reisens and Hayabusas variants since they equipped most Sentai and Kokutai units. The next highest produced fighter was the Hayate estimated at 3,514 produced. Reisen and Hayabusa used for kamikaze missions in late 1944/45 makes sense. There's more of them around, easier for novice pilots to fly and there very obsolete by late 1944/45.
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