the new RC patch is listing many fixes for aircraft FM's, various bugs, and even includes the long awaited SU-26

CoD is starting to gradually look good

to early to conclude anything firm yet, but first reports indicate further fpsec improvements, better high altitude clouds, and improved net code. for those who are testing the patch in the next few days, give us your reports

Yes indeed. Looking forward to giving this a go later this evening

Consensus of those who have tried it seems to be neutral so far, which for CoD is wildly positive!

Hein,

true, but i am going to be mostly on the lookout for FM fixes (spit and hurricane speed and climb rates etc), as well as some important fixes like errors of certain controls etc. new added features are a bonus (new planes), and so far the cloud improvements being reported look also positive

fingers crossed luthier and team put some effort into addressing some of the major bugs and errors (as well as continued to improve performance of fpsec and general fluidity of the game grafix)

Here's a FM fix for you
The new patch has porked the RAF aircraft. Can't start any of them from cold. (ie when on line)
It seems only the Spit 2a will start.
It's been reported on the banana forum. Looks like the A/C are too cold for the Glycol to kick in.

Rolling back to the previous beta......

and here is a solution for you



the real question is of course, did/do these aircraft have the same issue with colder engines or not ? is suspect not, BUT a rather interesting observation about the complexity of the engine modeling is that activating/using one part (ignition) has a direct effect on another (engine temp) which then allows the aircraft engine to be started still, it doesnt actually prevent gameplay either, so just think of your flying day as beeing an exceptionally cold day during a long BoB summer

and here are some of the good things people are starting to report: new nicer colors and better color tones for scenery and some objects, great visibility to the horizon with very distant landmass/sea, smooth gameplay with no more (? less) sudden drop in fpsec, ghost dot problem solved, etc.

I dont jump into new patches, so here is what I gather from sukhoi and 1C...

RAF aircraft speeds corrected for low alt...RAF can dogfight again. This is a big positive.

Even smoother rendering, fps, no stuttering.

Light clouds are back, but cloud shadows not consistent and objects visible through clouds.

People are having fun with the Su26 and its weird weapons (for them, I recommend War Thunder!). They need to be enabled in FMB tho and there may be a landing taxi issue.

Engine startup issue on most RAF types. Time to warm up engine sufficiently to start Hurricanes - 9 mins! Return of a bug from a previous patch. This is a big backward step.

Couple of report of strange effects from the winder weapons on the Su26, including aircraft still able to fly despite missing half the airframe after being hit.

Machines without fuel, or with engines destroyed able to auto taxi to hangars.

So...as with many a patch, one step forward, two back.

i would call it 3 steps forward and 1 step back
the main issue, more fluid gameplay and much less major sudden drops in fpsec over cities or near other aircraft formations, further improvements in scenery and gfx engine, FM fixes for allied fighters, Visually sharper cockpits and scenery/objects, turning on the grass is significantly less demanding on cpu/gpu, clouds have shadows again, no more ghost planes, The Spitfire Ia and IIa are now quite competitive against the 109 online (as should have been the case)

there are a few new annoying glitches, like the 1/2 aircraft only showing when some less severe damage occurred in that plane section, the startup problems for cold engines on the spitfire and hurricanes, and a few others

the new issues seem specific technical bugs that are relatively easy to sort out, the gameplay and scenery improvements are the big +++'s to me

the big one i am waiting for is to see if netcode and AI control improved, those are big issues for players and wil significantly determine if people return to the game after trying previous patches. also remember this is a RC beta patch, to be tested and for us to provide feedback on (while we get to enjoy an early version of the patch)

Unless the cold start bug is fixed this patch is a non starter ( no pun intended)
I can't believe that was not checked prior to release. It's a major issue. A flight sim where you can't start the aircraft…madness.

Aircraft spawn with oil temps at freezing point in the middle of an exceptionally hot British summer.

They manage to feck up the engine starts yet give us an aircraft that has no place any where near the BoB.

Surely they'd have better spent the time fixing the game rather than giving us the Su26!?

Not many things bother me these days but this patch has really p1ssed me off.

[/rant]

WB.

I guess I'm therefore not the only one that has a weird feeling about this patch...

the Su-26 was already nearly finished when the original CoD was released, its not a "new" aircraft that has just been created. it was also intended to be in the original CoD release (had been stated so during development), so it is more a case of 1C meeting their obligation or promises rather then going of on another tangent and not being aware there are other problems.there are a significant number of old il2 users who are eagerly awaiting it for aerobatic use.

with the cold start problem, all i can say is that it is a beta patch, and errors slip in. on the plus side, there are many new fixes and improvements, and hopeful they will release a micro-patch just to solve the immediate problem with the cold start issue

personally i am more concerned to see if the long awaited FM issues for the hurricane and spitfire mk1 are addressed (speed and climb issues at various altitudes). not all facts are in yet (its been 24 hrs), but low altitude problems seem to have been addressed to a significant degree, but new high/mid altitude issues are now present (major problems climbing above 3km it seems). the next few days/week will flesh that issue out.

the MAIN good news with this patch is the continued gfx engine performance improvements i mentioned a couple of posts back, and the more fluid gameplay. since that was the main problem with the original release, the last few patched seem to confirm they have made major progress on this, and the game now has become playable for a large number of people on mid level systems, and i think other issues should now be possible to address more easily and more effectively (for ex in the latest patch, with the further improved grafix, there is now better visibility of distant aircraft, and they are easier to spot and track (which was extremely bad and unrealistic before)

Sounds positive. Not surprised they missed the engine not starring: it's only british aircraft that are affected. :P

Hi guys,

Just a reminder: Keep certain types of debates in the 'extended discussions' forum. Allow this thread to be about installing/setting up the actual patch.

For me I see more pluses than minuses here . The SU is a hoot to fly- don't like the Kiddie corner weapons just don't use them. The main things are smoother (lot smoother here) graphics, better colours, no grass in hangers etc. It is probably the best patch so far imho, if it was the start of a set of improvement patches for CoD I would have eaten my hat.

Yup, I can confirm there is no grass in the hangers:


Next time, I'm going to see if I can do it inverted.

What if iRacing released a patch that improved some of the characteristics of cars cornering, smoothed out some graphic issues and released it as an RC......only problem is you can't start the cars!!!
That is not something you "overlook". That just sums up what sort of attention this game has with the devs at the moment. Surely at least one person could have tested it first before release.

Plus in all honesty I see no change in FPS on my system. It is no smoother than it was before on the previous patch. Al I can see is the addition of the SU26 and some enhanced lighting effects, which look buggy on my set up.

I like CoD it has grown on me and I can look past the small issues the game has. I'm not as pedantic as some people I've seen post in here. But for gawds sake, if I cant start the hurri when I jump in a server then there is a serious problem somewhere.

Trying out the Su-26:

This isnt going to make Keith Park happy. He wanted them airborn in two minutes didn't he?

Show-off. You're taxiing

Cheers,
Slug