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#3643227 - 09/12/12 11:05 PM Re: S-125M1 Neva (SA-3B Goa) ***** [Re: Hpasp]  
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All I have to say is this. These guys can't even lie correctly. Spirit of Missouri is still in service.

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#3643394 - 09/13/12 08:34 AM Re: S-125M1 Neva (SA-3B Goa) [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]  
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Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
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... and its surprising, that no AAR was presented so far, with the historical hit on F-117A 82-803 "Unexpected Guest".

I have shot the F-117 down, I even posted a video here :-)


Ooops, I missed it...
duh
... could you link it?

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#3643396 - 09/13/12 08:46 AM Re: S-125M1 Neva (SA-3B Goa) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Sorry I have not read correctly. I shot down the Something Wicked, not Unexpected Guest nope sigh reading banghead

#3647229 - 09/20/12 12:28 AM Re: S-125M1 Neva (SA-3B Goa) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Hello Hpasp!

First of all I would like to thank you for your amazing sim and all the hard work you put in it. My question for you is are you going to produce more OAF scenarios? I presume that the scenarios come from a certain book about OAF - will you include more NEVA regiments engagements described in the book and will you include KUB engagements - provided that you model KUB itself first? (I wish... or at leastas an option for KRUG)

Best regards!

#3647452 - 09/20/12 10:44 AM Re: S-125M1 Neva (SA-3B Goa) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Hello guys, has anyone tried to bring Gary Powers down with S-125? I have conducted several tests and I think it is not possible, missiles are lost just a bit before hit.

#3647461 - 09/20/12 11:00 AM Re: S-125M1 Neva (SA-3B Goa) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Please, check manual p. 6 ....

#3647483 - 09/20/12 11:41 AM Re: S-125M1 Neva (SA-3B Goa) [Re: Hpasp]  
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I know the official numbers :-)

#3647495 - 09/20/12 12:10 PM Re: S-125M1 Neva (SA-3B Goa) [Re: Hpasp]  
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so, where's the problem? confused

#3647507 - 09/20/12 12:36 PM Re: S-125M1 Neva (SA-3B Goa) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Because above the limit chance to hit rapidly decreases, it does not mean it is impossible :-)

I see it like a problem with S-75 and SR-71 in Lybia where it hardly touches the engagement zone.

#3647524 - 09/20/12 01:38 PM Re: S-125M1 Neva (SA-3B Goa) [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]  
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Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
I see it like a problem with S-75 and SR-71 in Lybia where it hardly touches the engagement zone.

No, it is totally different story...

#3647538 - 09/20/12 02:12 PM Re: S-125M1 Neva (SA-3B Goa) [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]  
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C-125 can not knock U2 why?

Because the C-125

The maximum height of hitting the target 18 km (V2 flying at an altitude of 20 km)

I personally tried to shoot down U2, but it did not!

#3647540 - 09/20/12 02:14 PM Re: S-125M1 Neva (SA-3B Goa) [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]  
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As for S-75 in Libya shoot nuclear missiles

#3647545 - 09/20/12 02:20 PM Re: S-125M1 Neva (SA-3B Goa) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Question how to shoot the S-125 to the target with interference.

Documentation seems clear, the question you need to manually put the height or not.

Or should I just grab and wait?

#3648169 - 09/21/12 11:44 AM Re: S-125M1 Neva (SA-3B Goa) [Re: Hpasp]  
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piston79: Please do not take my words so strictly :-)

#3657251 - 10/05/12 07:37 PM Re: S-125M1 Neva (SA-3B Goa) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Should be added to the manual that the range boresight needs to be close to the target to be able to lock it up.

#3657265 - 10/05/12 07:55 PM Re: S-125M1 Neva (SA-3B Goa) [Re: jazjar]  
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Originally Posted By: jazjar
Should be added to the manual that the range boresight needs to be close to the target to be able to lock it up.


Seemed to be trivial...
... to be able to track a target, you need to follow it in both angles (Fi1/Fi2).

As Fi1 displays only the 3km magnified area of the range boresight, you can only lock it up if it is visible in Fi1.



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Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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#3657375 - 10/05/12 10:27 PM Re: S-125M1 Neva (SA-3B Goa) [Re: Hpasp]  
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I meant in elevation and range, sorry

#3658181 - 10/07/12 03:02 PM Re: S-125M1 Neva (SA-3B Goa) [Re: Hpasp]  
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OK, what is up with SA-3 SDC? Is the system not finnicky enough without it on? I keep losing lock every five seconds with it on, even with all the parameters ( velocity switch ) and using or trying to use the little knob thingy.

#3658193 - 10/07/12 03:38 PM Re: S-125M1 Neva (SA-3B Goa) [Re: jazjar]  
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Originally Posted By: jazjar
OK, what is up with SA-3 SDC? Is the system not finnicky enough without it on? I keep losing lock every five seconds with it on, even with all the parameters ( velocity switch ) and using or trying to use the little knob thingy.


Here is the diagrams of the target signal strength vs target Doppler speed.

First shows the 80km mode, where the usage of SDC is not recommended.
The middle diagram shows the 40km Slow speed setting (V<300m/s), while the lower is for 40km high speed (V<600m/s).



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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3658261 - 10/07/12 06:53 PM Re: S-125M1 Neva (SA-3B Goa) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Well, on the ashuluk range with the tornado, it still loses lock, even in the BSZC MD mode. Is it supposed to lose lock from time to time? It's an old system, I can certainly understand that there are imperfections in the SNR's SDC system.

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