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#3641721 - 09/10/12 03:08 PM Re: ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka ***** [Re: farokh]  
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Originally Posted By: milang
guys ineed your help about one armor armed Under the belly of the plane!!! this technic is true???? looks like Shield..........
i hear from somewhere... in aldore bridge when iranian phantom's want to take a spying pctures from there ...for spying mission !

they need to get closer to target to take picture ... one guy said to me in airport some phantom armed armor Under the belly of the plane
for stop AA bullet's like shilka!


BZT ammo could perforate a ~2cm thick armored plate at 1km range.
(2.5cm at 500m)

Originally Posted By: milang

this is easy...! u can add that ashuluk target flying adding to ashuluk shilka training target!!! could u tell me why not???
to be honest i think Dregelypalank is not enough for us for better training with shilka!
in scenario's we have to hit fast aircraft with high speed ... they does'nt like Dregelypalank
we need better type of ashuluk target thumbsup


The main goal during development of this simulator is to simulate what the crew could see, and hear during training and engagement.

If the real WarPact crews were trained with slow targets, than you would be also...


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Last edited by Hpasp; 09/10/12 03:19 PM.

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#3641756 - 09/10/12 04:18 PM Re: ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka [Re: Hpasp]  
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uuuuuf.... duh i really Tired from make imagine shilka's handleing in my mind biggrin driving
when we could make a hell with OFZT bullet's !?!?!?!?!?!? 50cal biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin
i praying every day and i hope it will release soon blahblahblah



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#3641835 - 09/10/12 06:23 PM Re: ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka [Re: farokh]  
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Originally Posted By: milang
uuuuuf.... duh i really Tired from make imagine shilka's handleing in my mind biggrin driving
when we could make a hell with OFZT bullet's !?!?!?!?!?!? 50cal biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin
i praying every day and i hope it will release soon blahblahblah


It is planned (no promises) at the end of this year.

- September; learning and reading original operation manuals (on average 200 pages, and there are 25 of them ...)
- October; artwork (switches and lamps)
- November; logic implementation
- December; situation implementation (Dregelypalank, Egypt, Tripoli)

PS: if there will be enough bugs found in the current release, than this schedule will be delayed with at least one month due to bugfixing release.

Last edited by Hpasp; 09/12/12 07:03 AM.

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(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
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Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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#3642538 - 09/11/12 09:37 PM Re: ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka [Re: Hpasp]  
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shilka's manual is already ????? could we soon read this PDF before shilka system release one sam sim ????// sigh...........

#3642768 - 09/12/12 07:04 AM Re: ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka [Re: Hpasp]  
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Nope.
These are Hungarian original (military) operation manuals.


Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3642821 - 09/12/12 10:07 AM Re: ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka [Re: farokh]  
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Originally Posted By: milang

i cant understand sigh so shilka's pdf is operation manuals ... so we have to work with shilka on sam simulator without pfd??? rolleyes


Probably not ready yet... If you don't have something to say, just stay quite... postcount

#3642826 - 09/12/12 10:18 AM Re: ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka [Re: piston79]  
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Originally Posted By: piston79
Originally Posted By: milang

i cant understand sigh so shilka's pdf is operation manuals ... so we have to work with shilka on sam simulator without pfd??? rolleyes


Probably not ready yet... If you don't have something to say, just stay quite... postcount


i want just kidding dude biggrin ok
i deleted my post

#3644272 - 09/14/12 04:37 PM Re: ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka [Re: Hpasp]  
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wow wow wow... mercy hpasp

i cant wait for it whoohoo

#3644882 - 09/15/12 06:56 PM Re: ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka [Re: Hpasp]  
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one question......
how shilka can attack to jamming target???? jammer could effect on shilka SNR???
shilks have any electronic warfare confused

Last edited by milang; 09/15/12 06:58 PM.
#3644910 - 09/15/12 08:11 PM Re: ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka [Re: farokh]  
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Originally Posted By: milang
one question......
how shilka can attack to jamming target???? jammer could effect on shilka SNR???
shilks have any electronic warfare confused


Minimal, just the basics...
... SDC and two operating frequencies.

Last edited by Hpasp; 09/16/12 10:15 AM.

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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3644961 - 09/15/12 09:53 PM Re: ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka [Re: Hpasp]  
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Doesn't really help much against modern self defense jammers, so I guess that its opitcal tracking in modern times.

#3645145 - 09/16/12 10:28 AM Re: ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka [Re: jazjar]  
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Originally Posted By: jazjar
Doesn't really help much against modern self defense jammers, so I guess that its opitcal tracking in modern times.


...with laser range finders.


Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3645160 - 09/16/12 11:09 AM Re: ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka [Re: Hpasp]  
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Hpasp,

Really nice to see you actually integrate the Shilka into the sim, I was under the impression that you shelved the project because you don't want to make a learning tool for such a widespread weapon system. (if you know what I mean)
Why's the change of mind? Not that I'm complaining, I am really excited to "play" with the ZSU-23-4.

Cheers,
Buren

#3645183 - 09/16/12 12:45 PM Re: ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka [Re: Buren]  
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Originally Posted By: Buren
Hpasp,

Really nice to see you actually integrate the Shilka into the sim, I was under the impression that you shelved the project because you don't want to make a learning tool for such a widespread weapon system. (if you know what I mean)
Why's the change of mind? Not that I'm complaining, I am really excited to "play" with the ZSU-23-4.

Cheers,
Buren


It will model only radar modes, without any optical tracking capability.


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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3645229 - 09/16/12 03:10 PM Re: ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka [Re: Hpasp]  
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It is good and it's certainly no optics because the optics of complex program probably.

Only radar and needed in other SAM

Question and documentation can be read at all.

Release is planned as I understood at the end of 2012, that is somewhere in December!

#3645240 - 09/16/12 03:40 PM Re: ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka [Re: Hpasp]  
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i love only radar mode!
sam sim be famous only with simulation radar modes .! cowboy
tracking target with different radar modes is very amazing than optical tracking! matrix

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#3645292 - 09/16/12 06:01 PM Re: ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka [Re: Hpasp]  
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Are the drones also capable to simulate helicopters?
I'd assume in the more recent scenarios those would be the "prefered" targets of the Shilka.

#3645607 - 09/17/12 12:47 PM Re: ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka [Re: Hpasp]  
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I took a little break from SAMSIM and when I come back the forum has completly changed and the Shilka is back! I'm very excited! This is the bes simulator!

#3646975 - 09/19/12 06:32 PM Re: ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka [Re: WhoCares]  
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Originally Posted By: WhoCares
Are the drones also capable to simulate helicopters?
I'd assume in the more recent scenarios those would be the "prefered" targets of the Shilka.


They are pretty much like small helicopters...

METEOR-I
2sqrm delta winged plane used between 1977~2005
speed: 160km/hr




METEOR-II

used between 1982~1999
speed: 180km/hr



Last edited by Hpasp; 09/21/12 05:43 PM.

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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3647541 - 09/20/12 02:16 PM Re: ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka [Re: Hpasp]  
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Shilka release as I understand is scheduled for late 2012

In December!

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