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#3627967 - 08/17/12 08:12 AM News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems *****  
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Here we can share all News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems.
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#3627969 - 08/17/12 08:13 AM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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#3629917 - 08/20/12 07:25 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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#3631579 - 08/23/12 06:54 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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#3632528 - 08/25/12 03:25 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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#3632571 - 08/25/12 04:57 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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36D6 (Tin Shield) digital, phase modulated, 3 dimensional target acquisition radar, capable of tracking 100 targets parallel;
heart of the S-300PS (SA-10B) system...


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#3632577 - 08/25/12 05:20 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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"The Rock of Hungary" "A Szikla" was built before the WW2 by the Germans, to store the Hungarian National Bank gold stock, the Hungarian Crown, plus the Air Defense Command Post.

During the Cold War, it was upgraded to NBC level.

After Hungary joined NATO, this post take responsibility for Eastern Air military traffic Control.

http://www.honvedelem.hu/cikk/33191?originalUri=cikk%2F33191

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Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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#3632579 - 08/25/12 05:33 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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36D6 (Tin Shield) digital, phase modulated, 3 dimensional target acquisition radar, capable of tracking 100 targets parallel;
heart of the S-300PS (SA-10B) system...

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... and its successor, the 80K6...



with its Ukrainian factory "Iskra"...


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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
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Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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#3636733 - 09/02/12 04:50 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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ALMAZ history Album 1947-77...

... including S-25/-75/-125/-200/-225/-300P SAM Systems...
Kometa/K-20/-10/-22/H-15/Rubezh/Drakon ASM systems...
IT-1 ATGM Systems...
Omega-2 SALS (Surface to Air Laser System)
Dreyf AALS (Air to Air Laser System)


http://narod.ru/disk/53028591001.f0d16c4...47-77.djvu.html

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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3636750 - 09/02/12 05:10 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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S-225 (ABM-X-3) system description manual...






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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
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Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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#3636761 - 09/02/12 05:32 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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what different between sa-11 and sa-17 ???? sigh this two type very looks like together popcorn

#3636765 - 09/02/12 05:43 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: farokh]  
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Originally Posted By: milang
what different between sa-11 and sa-17 ???? sigh this two type very looks like together popcorn


The 2K12 KUB (SA-6) system had several incremental releases, the 9K37 BUK (SA-11) and the 9K317 BUK-M2 (SA-17) systems.

Main difference is the increased number of target channels...
... while the KUB can track 2 targets parallel and engage one with several missiles, the BUK can engage several targets in the same time.

Also missile range is increased, KUB ~25km, BUK ~35km, BUK-M2 ~50km.

Read more here:
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-2K12-Kvadrat.html
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-9K37-Buk.html

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Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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#3637632 - 09/03/12 08:57 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp

... while the KUB can track 2 targets parallel and engage one with several missiles, the BUK can engage several targets in the same time.


O MY God.... until now! I thought sa-6 could tracking 2 target and attack to them at one moment duh
so...if kub could attack only to one target !!! where is sa-6 good point????? just mobile and semi-homing guidance ??? confused

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Development of the KUB SAM system was initiated by the decree of the Central Committee of the Soviet Union in 18 July 1958.
The system had to be capable of destroying targets, flying at speeds of Mach2, at an altitude of 100m, in rages between 5-20km, with a hit probability of 70% per launched missile.


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#3637933 - 09/04/12 08:09 AM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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sa-3 Production history
Designer Almaz Central Design Bureau
Designed 1960s
Manufacturer JSC Defense Systems (Pechora-M)
Produced 1963-present
Variants Neva, Pechora, Volna, Neva-M, Neva-M1, Volna-M, Volna-N, Volna-P, Pechora 2, Pechora 2M, Newa SC, Pechora-M





sa-6 Production history
Designer NIIP/Vympel
MMZ (GM chassis)
Designed 1959
Manufacturer Ulyanovsk Mechanical Plant (SURNs)
ZiK (TELs)
Produced 1968–1985
Number built 500 launchers, 10 000 missiles[1]
Variants 2K12 Kub, 2K12E Kvadrat (export version), 2K12M3, 2K12M4



so sa-3 looks like younger than sa-6??? so why in almost country's join in nato sa-3 remove from servis but why sa-6 still online with nato standard ? oops dizzy

sa-3 in rages between 5-20km, with a hit probability of what percent per launched missile could hit target? 30% per launched missile????.

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Originally Posted By: milang
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sa-3 Production history
Designer Almaz Central Design Bureau
Designed 1960s
Manufacturer JSC Defense Systems (Pechora-M)
Produced 1963-present
Variants Neva, Pechora, Volna, Neva-M, Neva-M1, Volna-M, Volna-N, Volna-P, Pechora 2, Pechora 2M, Newa SC, Pechora-M





sa-6 Production history
Designer NIIP/Vympel
MMZ (GM chassis)
Designed 1959
Manufacturer Ulyanovsk Mechanical Plant (SURNs)
ZiK (TELs)
Produced 1968–1985
Number built 500 launchers, 10 000 missiles[1]
Variants 2K12 Kub, 2K12E Kvadrat (export version), 2K12M3, 2K12M4



so sa-3 looks like younger than sa-6??? so why in almost country's join in nato sa-3 remove from servis but why sa-6 still online with nato standard ? oops dizzy


Probably because KUB is mobile.

Originally Posted By: milang

sa-3 in rages between 5-20km, with a hit probability of what percent per launched missile could hit target? 30% per launched missile.


Hit probability is only valid for non maneuvering/jamming, straight flying target.

Dvina with 3 missiles; 96%
Volhov with 3 missiles; 99%
Neva with 2 missiles; 98%
Vega with 3 missiles; 98%
KRUG with 1 missile; 97%
KUB with 3 missiles; 98%

Last edited by Hpasp; 09/04/12 08:19 AM.

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oops ..my bad frown I came to the conclusion... in my mind i created from KUB one bIG monster screwy
i had a high expectations for a 2K12 KUB (SA-6A) simulator laser
of course KUB is a different Style and peculiar system in soviet union SAM collection...... this system is realy one of complexity sam in the world screwy

but i dont know why ? why one system like sa-6 have a smile size but it armed with complexity take Pattern of sa-4 + sa-5 guidane and sa-3 indicator dizzy dizzy

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Originally Posted By: milang
oops ..my bad frown I came to the conclusion... in my mind i created from KUB one bIG monster screwy
i had a high expectations for a 2K12 KUB (SA-6A) simulator laser
of course KUB is a different Style and peculiar system in soviet union SAM collection...... this system is realy one of complexity sam in the world screwy

but i dont know why ? why one system like sa-6 have a smile size but it armed with complexity take Pattern of sa-4 + sa-5 guidane and sa-3 indicator dizzy dizzy


Against low flying targets, in the '50s using CW Doppler radar seemed to be the easiest solution.
Part of the system complexity is resulted that the NIIP bureau never designed any SAM system before...
... they were designers of AA missile systems.


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#3637979 - 09/04/12 11:46 AM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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KRUG seems an outlier in your table.

The others have an "equivalent SSKP" of 66% for Dvina to 86% for Neva, with the remainder in the mid-low 70s... while KRUG is 97%

While I am aware that it might not be valid to just combine two or three 'equivalent SSKP' to obtain an engagement P(K) this difference seems ~ striking. Is this what you'd expect?

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