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#3620847 - 08/05/12 09:28 PM HAWK on Iranian F-14  
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hi firend's wave

i found one huge and awsome picture about this:




why f-14 armed with hawk missile dizzy come on! it looks like armed KUB on mig-25 or mig-31 banghead
some help and idea please help

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#3620882 - 08/05/12 11:03 PM Re: HAWK on Iranian F-14 [Re: Hpasp]  
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It's a HAWK, hung from an Iranian F14A, because Phoenix was near EOL and there was no prospect of building new missiles.

While not exactly the same, as the mission was changed from SAM to ARM, rather than SAM to AAM, the US fitted Standard to the F4 during Vietnam... it was an airframe sufficiently large for the required electronics and warhead, and with sufficient range...

The HAWK is considerably slower than Phoenix, and is only SARH rather than ARH with command updates. I'm not entirely convinced it represents a significant increase in capability over AIM-7 - except the Iranian AIM-7 are also very old models of limited performance and reliability compared to the latest generations of US missile.

It certainly "Looks" more like a high performance 'AIM-54-a-like', and that might be all that is important.

I've read suggestions that AIM-54 can 'recently' be upgraded/maintained/rebuilt/replaced, and that HAWK was not progressed as an AAM, but who knows with the Iranian 'bluster' what the truth of these claims is - they are after all stationing a blue water navy off the 12 mile zone of the continental US in response to the US presence near the Gulf...

#3621120 - 08/06/12 10:39 AM Re: HAWK on Iranian F-14 [Re: Lieste]  
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Originally Posted By: Lieste
It's a HAWK, hung from an Iranian F14A, because Phoenix was near EOL and there was no prospect of building new missiles.

While not exactly the same, as the mission was changed from SAM to ARM, rather than SAM to AAM, the US fitted Standard to the F4 during Vietnam... it was an airframe sufficiently large for the required electronics and warhead, and with sufficient range...

The HAWK is considerably slower than Phoenix, and is only SARH rather than ARH with command updates. I'm not entirely convinced it represents a significant increase in capability over AIM-7 - except the Iranian AIM-7 are also very old models of limited performance and reliability compared to the latest generations of US missile.

It certainly "Looks" more like a high performance 'AIM-54-a-like', and that might be all that is important.

I've read suggestions that AIM-54 can 'recently' be upgraded/maintained/rebuilt/replaced, and that HAWK was not progressed as an AAM, but who knows with the Iranian 'bluster' what the truth of these claims is - they are after all stationing a blue water navy off the 12 mile zone of the continental US in response to the US presence near the Gulf...


tnQ about this notice thumbsup but its not my basicly qouestion!

look----> hawk is surface air missile... iran aerocenter could armed this missile on f-14A
but my question was could kub missile armed on soviet fighter like foxbat or foxhound? confused
in my opinion hawk and kub missile has one performance about guidance method !so is it logical if kub armed on mig-25 or mig-31? like f-14 armed with hawk !!!! it happend could be or not? popcorn

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#3629106 - 08/19/12 01:43 PM Re: HAWK on Iranian F-14 [Re: farokh]  
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Originally Posted By: milang
in my opinion hawk and kub missile has one performance about guidance method !so is it logical if kub armed on mig-25 or mig-31? like f-14 armed with hawk !!!! it happend could be or not? popcorn[/b]


Does F-14 and MiG-25 has same performance with radars?

#3629138 - 08/19/12 02:38 PM Re: HAWK on Iranian F-14 [Re: piston79]  
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Originally Posted By: piston79

Does F-14 and MiG-25 has same performance with radars?


is this serious qouestion or u kidding me dude???
who am i ? f-14 pilot???? sigh if i know about it ... i never ask like it

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#3629227 - 08/19/12 04:43 PM Re: HAWK on Iranian F-14 [Re: farokh]  
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You could easily compare HAWK missile, Phoenix missile and Kub missile, how they work and what kind of radar they used...

#3629230 - 08/19/12 04:50 PM Re: HAWK on Iranian F-14 [Re: piston79]  
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Originally Posted By: piston79
You could easily compare HAWK missile, Phoenix missile and Kub missile, how they work and what kind of radar they used...


that's my info ........ kub = semi-homing and hawk - semi-homing too!
but phoenix use fully homing !!!! no semi!
f-14 could launch sparrow (semi-homing).... so one russian aircraft like su-27 also could launch R-27 ER or EM its(semi-homing)too
so could be armed kub on evry aircraft can launch semi-homing missile??? confused

i think my qouestion is confusing sleepy

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#3629253 - 08/19/12 05:50 PM Re: HAWK on Iranian F-14 [Re: farokh]  
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As they didn't use it in that way, probably they had better AA missiles...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-33_(missile)


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