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#3627404 - 08/16/12 10:39 AM Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR }  
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hi every one wave
i make this topic only for polling about plan and new's about future system + scenario's thumbsup



topic updated/ next system will be zsu-23-4



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#3627423 - 08/16/12 11:46 AM Re: Future Plan (SAM SIMULATOR) [Re: farokh]  
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Current close future plan is to sit in the Sunny Beach of Greece. biggrin

When I get back in development, I will tune the existing OAF scenarios a little bit (they will be tougher), and correct the upcoming bugs.
cowboy


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http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

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#3628745 - 08/18/12 06:45 PM Re: Future Plan (SAM SIMULATOR) [Re: farokh]  
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Have you ever considered porting the code to Linux?

#3630127 - 08/21/12 02:59 AM Re: Future Plan (SAM SIMULATOR) [Re: dfbeck]  
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Originally Posted By: dfbeck
Have you ever considered porting the code to Linux?


I don't know if you're aware, but SAMSIM will work through wine. Though I had to play about with settings a little first to get it working.

I've had it working in Ubuntu 10.04 and 12.04.

There seems to be a huge memory leak when you use the game normally in WINE, meaning you can only run it for a minute at most before your system is in trouble. I found a way to fix it though.

I copied the file oleaut32 . dll from a windows vista machine, and put it in the same directory as sam.exe. Then in the libraries tab of wine config, I found oleaut32 . dll in the overide menu and added it, so wine would actually use the file.

There also seems to be a problem where your desktop or software running under Linux will steal keyboard focus away from sam sim, meaning you can't press any keys. To fix that select "Emulate a virtual desktop" under the graphics tab of wine config. And set the desktop size to 1280x1024.

This completely fixes the memory leak, and the keyboard problem. The game now works fine for me under Ubuntu 12.04.

Under 10.04 however, there still is a problem after the oleaut32 . dll fix and the game will freeze after a couple of switch clicks. The only solution I've found so far is to disable sound. But it'll work fine, as long as you're okay playing in silence.

I have no idea what problems anyone else has had getting SAMSIM working under Linux, but this is what I had to do to get it working through Wine. Hope it helps.

#3631378 - 08/23/12 01:00 PM Re: Future Plan (SAM SIMULATOR) [Re: dfbeck]  
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Originally Posted By: dfbeck
Have you ever considered porting the code to Linux?


No, as this is a quite old code, written in MS Visual Basic 6.


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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3632137 - 08/24/12 05:26 PM Re: Future Plan (SAM SIMULATOR) [Re: farokh]  
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You deserve the vacation, and keep up the good work Hpasp.
Theres not that many hardcore nerdy SIMs about so keep up the good work. Personally I cant wait for the Nike Hercules system.

#3684111 - 11/18/12 03:27 AM Re: Future Plan (SAM SIMULATOR) [Re: farokh]  
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One thing i would love; even more than the NIKE; is the BOMARC!! Now THAT WOULD BE CRAZY! A full SAGE/BOMARC simulator. Wow... i've just had the best idea. There is a lot of documentation in english on the internet; too.




I was about to propose the S-25 Berkut too.


#3685006 - 11/19/12 07:13 PM Re: Future Plan (SAM SIMULATOR) [Re: farokh]  
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what abou this lol


#3733086 - 02/09/13 03:08 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Nice workplace...

(The Black Sheep of all Soviet SAM systems.)
ELLIPSE; the third SV system after the KRUG (CIRCLE) and KUB (CUBE).
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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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#3733116 - 02/09/13 04:46 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
Nice workplace...

(The Black Sheep of all Soviet SAM systems.)
ELLIPSE; the third SV system after the KRUG (CIRCLE) and KUB (CUBE).
duh




could we hope to see this sexy sa-8 on samsim ?

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#3733199 - 02/09/13 08:50 PM How real is SAMSIM.... [Re: farokh]  
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Originally Posted By: Vympel
How well could you simulate S-300? Would it be 'realistic to the switch', as switches are concerned, and just radar and missile performance guessed? Or you would have to guess every thing? Are manuals available?


How well, the SAMSIM simulates the S-75M3 Volhov system?
Probably, this is the best free simulation available, but I'm aware of those points, where the system operation is simplified.
(RS/AS/AS-AP,RL-TV, ARU, RRU, etc)

If I would ever create an S-300PMU simulation, than it would be the best free SAMSIM available, but less authentic than the Volhov.

Originally Posted By: farokh
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but less authentic than the Volhov.


excuse me i dont understand ... why s-300 pmu simulation can be less authentic than the Volhov.?
what about mim-104 patriot simulation ? it will be less authentic than the Volhov. too?


I can rate the simulation authenticity about the amount of information I'm aware of the system...

S-75M3 Volhov (SA-2E)
Real system is available to photo the required screen-shots: YES
System operators available to answer questions during development: YES
Original operation documentation is available: YES
Videos available showing the system operation: YES

Altogether 4 points.

S-125M Neva (SA-3B)
Real system is available to photo the required screen-shots: YES
System operators available to answer questions during development: YES
Original operation documentation is available: YES
Videos available showing the system operation: YES

Altogether 4 points.

KRUG (SA-4B)
Real system is available to photo the required screen-shots: YES
System operators available to answer questions during development: YES
Original operation documentation is available: YES
Videos available showing the system operation: YES

Altogether 4 points.

S-200VE Vega-E (SA-5B)
Real system is available to photo the required screen-shots: YES
System operators available to answer questions during development: YES
Original operation documentation is available: YES
Videos available showing the system operation: YES

Altogether 4 points.

SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F)
Real system is available to photo the required screen-shots: YES
System operators available to answer questions during development: NO
Original operation documentation is available: YES
Videos available showing the system operation: NO

Altogether 2 points.

ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka
Real system is available to photo the required screen-shots: YES
System operators available to answer questions during development: YES
Original operation documentation is available: YES
Videos available showing the system operation: YES

Altogether 4 points.

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Systems not simulated:

Nike Hercules
Real system is available to photo the required screen-shots: YES, but requires a 1000km drive...
System operators available to answer questions during development: Hopefully
Original operation documentation is available: Partially
Videos available showing the system operation: YES

Altogether 3 points.

S-25M Berkut (SA-1)
Real system is available to photo the required screen-shots: It is available at the PVO museum in Moscow, but nobody taken the required shots so far.
System operators available to answer questions during development: NO
Original operation documentation is available: YES
Videos available showing the system operation: NO

Altogether 1,5 points.

S-60
Real system is available to photo the required screen-shots: It is available in Hungary, but was not able to got inside at any of it.
System operators available to answer questions during development: YES
Original operation documentation is available: NO
Videos available showing the system operation: NO

Altogether 1,5 points.

S-300PT Biryusa (SA-10A)
Real system is available to photo the required screen-shots: It is available at the PVO museum in Moscow, but nobody taken the required shots so far.
System operators available to answer questions during development: NO
Original operation documentation is available: NO
Videos available showing the system operation: YES

Altogether 1,5 points.

S-300PMU (SA-10B)
Real system is available to photo the required screen-shots: NO, but can be generated digitally.
System operators available to answer questions during development: NO
Original operation documentation is available: NO
Videos available showing the system operation: YES

Altogether 1 points.

Patriot
Real system is available to photo the required screen-shots: NO, but can be generated digitally.
System operators available to answer questions during development: NO
Original operation documentation is available: NO
Videos available showing the system operation: YES

Altogether 1 points.


OSA
Real system is available to photo the required screen-shots: NO
System operators available to answer questions during development: NO
Original operation documentation is available: Partially
Videos available showing the system operation: NO

Altogether 0.5 points.

Last edited by Hpasp; 02/09/13 08:53 PM.

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(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3734915 - 02/13/13 06:04 PM Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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You can help the future development of the SAM Simulator, by linking 9K33 OSA (SA-8) operations videos...

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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3735015 - 02/13/13 08:34 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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0.5 points system? screwy

#3735037 - 02/13/13 09:25 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
You can help the future development of the SAM Simulator, by linking 9K33 OSA (SA-8) operations videos...


hungarian OSA still in service ?

#3735259 - 02/14/13 07:05 AM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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Grisha class;

Contains abit of naval OSA cabin work
+ AK-257 with MR-103 radar cabin (it seems that this one is different than RPK-1)

#3735263 - 02/14/13 07:18 AM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: piston79]  
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Originally Posted By: piston79
0.5 points system? screwy


Only if I would be able to raise its score up to 3,5.
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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3735269 - 02/14/13 08:03 AM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: montieris]  
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Originally Posted By: montieris
Click to reveal..

Grisha class;

Contains abit of naval OSA cabin work
+ AK-257 with MR-103 radar cabin (it seems that this one is different than RPK-1)


The Naval OSA is pretty similar.


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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3737058 - 02/17/13 09:26 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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convert them to work dcs:W in a far far future?


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#3741312 - 02/25/13 12:57 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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what about Spread sa-3? there is many many switch but almost is disable.
hpasp can Spread more disable switch to useable switch

like below pictures





#3741313 - 02/25/13 01:01 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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if combined arms had this...........


Fighterops...

The only TRUE Stealth crowd funded game.

Devs said there was stuff there, but you just couldn't see it.
#3765138 - 04/09/13 04:17 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: bogusheadbox]  
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That's what missing from samsim now. Confronting with thinking enemy, and evolving situations.

#3765143 - 04/09/13 04:37 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: apelles]  
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Originally Posted By: apelles
That's what missing from samsim now. Confronting with thinking enemy, and evolving situations.


Fully agree with this comment.


Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3766359 - 04/11/13 07:57 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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hpasp ... when you wanna get decide to release next version ?
... till now after pass +2 years we have no any items for sa-5 frown

please say some good news wink

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#3766367 - 04/11/13 08:10 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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Originally Posted By: farokh
hpasp ... when you wanna get decide to release next version ?
... till now after pass +2 years we have no any items for sa-5 frown

please say some good news wink


Currently my 100% effort goes to OSA-AK.



Now most of the switches (and they are beautiful) are switchable [without any effect], and I'm learning the system operation.
(In my dreams, Im already firing with it)
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Trust me, that this will be THE all time favorite system for all the SAMSIM beginners.
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After OSA, more SA5 situations are planned, over the Baltic's, and Vladivostok.


Last edited by Hpasp; 04/11/13 08:16 PM.

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(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3766577 - 04/12/13 04:58 AM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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I am looking forward to the SA-8. I hope it is a fun system.

But I am more looking forward even more to new SA-5 missions and features.

Two years ago Hpasp said this

Quote:
1. What do these do?

They, with the wheel on the right lower part of the "s" screen, and with the RU button on the "c" screen are not implemented, and against ARMs.

It is called RU-V tracking.
These will be implemented with the Libyan scenarios later.


Is that in SAM Simulator now? Some of the switches and buttons mentioned do something, but I can't figure out what, or how it would be useful against ARMs.

#3766628 - 04/12/13 09:27 AM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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so ... i thinking sa-5 items will goes to 2014 help

#3766797 - 04/12/13 04:26 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: Mdore]  
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Originally Posted By: Mdore
I am looking forward to the SA-8. I hope it is a fun system.

But I am more looking forward even more to new SA-5 missions and features.

Two years ago Hpasp said this

Quote:
1. What do these do?

They, with the wheel on the right lower part of the "s" screen, and with the RU button on the "c" screen are not implemented, and against ARMs.

It is called RU-V tracking.
These will be implemented with the Libyan scenarios later.


Is that in SAM Simulator now? Some of the switches and buttons mentioned do something, but I can't figure out what, or how it would be useful against ARMs.


You can re-aim the flying missile into an incoming ARM.
Also it can be used against VGPO jamming.
Not implemented yet in the SAMSIM.


Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3766908 - 04/12/13 08:54 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
...Trust me, that this will be THE all time favorite system for all the SAMSIM beginners.
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We don't have such people here... nope

#3767097 - 04/13/13 10:10 AM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: piston79]  
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Originally Posted By: piston79
Originally Posted By: Hpasp
...Trust me, that this will be THE all time favorite system for all the SAMSIM beginners.
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We don't have such people here... nope


SAMSIM v.926 had over 2000 downloads since January this year...
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Last edited by Hpasp; 04/13/13 10:18 AM.

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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3767135 - 04/13/13 12:44 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: piston79]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
...Trust me, that this will be THE all time favorite system for all the SAMSIM beginners.
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i dont understand ! you meant was this system is easier than any systems we had on samsim ? ? frown
Complex systems on samsim will be never boring ! but easy systems duck

dear hpasp.. would u create this machine as "super realistic to the switch" ????
with most of the switches ( switchable ) with all of effect....
simulated more switches can help to complexity system
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#3767444 - 04/14/13 10:12 AM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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Originally Posted By: farokh
Originally Posted By: Hpasp
...Trust me, that this will be THE all time favorite system for all the SAMSIM beginners.
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i dont understand ! you meant was this system is easier than any systems we had on samsim ? ? frown
Complex systems on samsim will be never boring ! but easy systems duck

dear hpasp.. would u create this machine as "super realistic to the switch" ????
with most of the switches ( switchable ) with all of effect....
simulated more switches can help to complexity system
biggrin


As we all learned, Soviet SAM system developers had the general system usability pretty low on their priority list during system design.
Especially with the most capable system of all, the S-75M3 Volhov (SA-2E) where I have always the feeling of "hey, there is some space left on the cabinet, put another switch there"!
dizzy

After several 3rd world communist SAM user country suffered, Soviets started to create more logically usable systems (the white series), and the first of these is the OSA, and the pinnacle is the S-300P series, where the next button to be pushed by the operator is illuminated by the system (beside of auto-locking on incoming HARM's, and the possibility of auto-engaging...)
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Another step further is the Patriot, where instead of "fighting" (acquiring and tracking target, selecting preparing and launching missiles) you are simply "managing" the battle. (selecting and approving targets to be automatically engaged by the system)
cowboy

Last edited by Hpasp; 04/14/13 11:27 AM.

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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3767458 - 04/14/13 11:39 AM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: Hpasp]  
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, where the next button to be pushed by the operator is illuminated by the system (beside of auto-locking on incoming HARM's, and the possibility of auto-engaging...)
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you meant was ... only with one button ... we can engage with harm missile ? automatic ? seehearspeak

#3767477 - 04/14/13 01:31 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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Originally Posted By: farokh
Originally Posted By: Hpasp
, where the next button to be pushed by the operator is illuminated by the system (beside of auto-locking on incoming HARM's, and the possibility of auto-engaging...)
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you meant was ... only with one button ... we can engage with harm missile ? automatic ? seehearspeak


Check video from 6m 38s...

The high resolution capability of the multi-functional radar ensures discrimination and engagements of targets flying in dense formations...
... designation and acquisition of targets, including the separating ones, are automatic.



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#3768336 - 04/16/13 07:09 AM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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patriot mim-104






VS




IRANIAN ballestoc missiles



hpasp i thinking that if u decide to create this one... sam simulator explode a greate noise on simulator world seehearspeak
please think about it . it could be a great for american & Israeli defense for After eating lunch hobby biggrin

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#3772619 - 04/24/13 06:26 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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It would be nice if there is Hint an Function for non Russian(or what ever it is) Language Speakers.
I think a Little Mouse Over Hint with an Translation to English would be very useful so that i go over an switch an in the Mouseover stands in English what the switch is for.

Would be very useful special for beginners and so on.

#3772781 - 04/24/13 10:52 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: Spock]  
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Originally Posted By: Spock
It would be nice if there is Hint an Function for non Russian(or what ever it is) Language Speakers.
I think a Little Mouse Over Hint with an Translation to English would be very useful so that i go over an switch an in the Mouseover stands in English what the switch is for.

Would be very useful special for beginners and so on.


Nice try.... wink :

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3707095/Re_Easy_Mode#Post3707095

#3774238 - 04/27/13 09:17 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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Originally Posted By: farokh
patriot mim-104
Click to reveal..


IRANIAN ballestoc missiles
Click to reveal..



hpasp i thinking that if u decide to create this one... sam simulator explode a greate noise on simulator world seehearspeak
please think about it . it could be a great for american & Israeli defense for After eating lunch hobby biggrin


THAAD is designed against these threats, rather than the Patriot...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_High_Altitude_Area_Defense



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http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

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#3783754 - 05/17/13 08:08 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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Sorry Hpasp by put that news and photos here here.... but please make a Sa-2 Simulator on DCS:W..... by Beczl. The photos show future new IA SA-2 into mig-21bis 3rd Party module to DCS:World.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1761710&postcount=25
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Finally tested the SA-2F Guidline SA-75M Dvina battery. Will be integrated in MiG-21 Module...









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#3783756 - 05/17/13 08:10 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: Silver_Dragon]  
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Originally Posted By: Silver_Dragon
Sorry Hpasp by put that news and photos here here.... but please make a Sa-2 Simulator on DCS:W..... by Beczl. The photos show future new IA SA-2 into mig-21bis 3rd Party module to DCS:World.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1761710&postcount=25
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Finally tested the SA-2F Guidline SA-75M Dvina battery. Will be integrated in MiG-21 Module...










can i download this for a-10 dcs ? if yes
please give me a link

#3783761 - 05/17/13 08:19 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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Negative.... into future Beczl Mig-21Bis module (Sorry Hpasp by the offtopic).

Beczl tell my for now has imposible make a SAM pilotable. ED need improve the the "pilotable" vehicles and make a need ground to air advanced missile model. frown

Edit: He has working on future DCS: World IA SA-4 / Sa-6 IA vehicles.

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#3786527 - 05/23/13 01:48 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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Hello Hpasp, do you plan in future more realistic PPI (IKO) indicator with things like terrain masking or so?

#3786599 - 05/23/13 03:48 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]  
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Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
Hello Hpasp, do you plan in future more realistic PPI (IKO) indicator with things like terrain masking or so?


I try to keep or elevate the realism level of SAMSIM in each consequent release.
Realistic IKO is planned (with ground clutter), but it depends on the load on the CPU that it generates.
No point to include it, and then SAMSIM would not be enjoyable for the users with an average CPU.

Priority is Karat.
(Just imagine, low flying A-4 Skyhawk formation over Cairo...)

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http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

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#3786705 - 05/23/13 06:44 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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Yes, Karat is very very superb!!!!

The reason why I asked for IKO is to get some clues about future of SAMSIM. Maybe when time for it comes, most of the people will have even average CPU of those days, but in that time it would be like high speed CPU's now :-)
And of course such computation intensive tasks could be disabled in menu (like digital terrain just now) :-)

#3787662 - 05/25/13 09:28 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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What about moving off dry land and onto the water with the RIM-8 Talos?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-8_Talos

There is a ton of good info out there to be able to simulate it.

-Jenrick

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Originally Posted By: jenrick
What about moving off dry land and onto the water with the RIM-8 Talos?



Any quality photos from control panel?

#3792674 - 06/06/13 03:11 AM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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piston79: Hmm good point, I've got the manuals for the TALOS system, all the way from GMM1 through Chief. However I will admit I don't have any good photos of the panels.

Does anyone happen to have access to the panels for the SON-9 (Fire Can) and similar radar directors? I think they'd be an interesting counterpoint to the SA-2 for the Vietnam era.

-Jenrick

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piston79: Hmm good point, I've got the manuals for the TALOS system, all the way from GMM1 through Chief. However I will admit I don't have any good photos of the panels.

Does anyone happen to have access to the panels for the SON-9 (Fire Can) and similar radar directors? I think they'd be an interesting counterpoint to the SA-2 for the Vietnam era.

-Jenrick


Some low quality shots...








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#3793628 - 06/08/13 01:39 AM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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Wow, ask and I shall receive!

It's interesting to see the similarities to the S-75 panel's in the design of the panels of the SON-9. Is there much similarity in usage?

-Jenrick

#3793701 - 06/08/13 01:23 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: jenrick]  
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Originally Posted By: jenrick
Wow, ask and I shall receive!

It's interesting to see the similarities to the S-75 panel's in the design of the panels of the SON-9. Is there much similarity in usage?

-Jenrick


There were three "design" schemes used over the years.

Blue scheme, the standard Coldwar color...

S-25M Berkut (SA-1)
S-75M Volhov (SA-2E)
S-125M Neva (SA-3B)
2K11 KRUG (SA-4B)
S-200VE Vega (SA-5B)

Silver Hammer finish, the most beautiful one...
SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F)
ZSU-23-4 Shilka
2K12 KUB (SA-6)

White finish, the modern one...
9K33 OSA (SA-8)
S-300PT Biryusa (SA-10A)
S-300PS/PMU Volhov-M6 (SA-10B)

The design color has no relation to the functionality of the equipment.


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http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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#3808575 - 07/12/13 06:21 PM Re: Future Plan, SAM SIMULATOR [Re: farokh]  
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Sorry otherwise by the OT Hpasp...... a interesting new incoming feature from DCS:W CA

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12 July 2013 - DCS News Update

Other parts of our team are working on new elements for Combined Arms. Two of many new features includes a radar display for radar-guided air defense systems and more realistic fire control systems for armored units. I've attached an early work in progress image of the new radar display.




that move to a pilotable vehicles with "plausible" systems or similar)


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#3812270 - 07/20/13 08:25 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Interesting workplace...





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#3812274 - 07/20/13 08:42 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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and another one...
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#3812394 - 07/21/13 06:58 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Okay, I don't know what that is.

SA-13? SA-11? I'm confused.

Is it coming to SAM Simulator?

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First one is SA-13, second one is probably naval SAM.
Originally Posted By: Mdore
Okay, I don't know what that is.

SA-13? SA-11? I'm confused.

Is it coming to SAM Simulator?

#3812412 - 07/21/13 11:24 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Ah, well since Hpasp posted it in the "Future Plans" section, it seems we have something else awesome to look forward to. Thanks Hpasp! whoohoo

#3812415 - 07/21/13 11:39 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
and another one...
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what is this ? im not sure that hpasp whants simulate one naval sam system in samsimulator !
what the hell is this ?

hpasp would u share more pic of this system for us please

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One more +1 for piston79!
I'm getting old biggrin

#3812436 - 07/21/13 01:43 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Wow, SON-9, SA-11 and SA-8. Future is looking bright!

I'm imagining some distant future version SAM Simulator, where we can play with each over the internet, SA-2s, SA-3s ... SA-999, Shilkas, SON-9s, even IADS. An entire air defence system with humans actually controlling things.

Then some smart person can create a way of connecting us to DCS World, so we can shoot down all the human pilots who are used to playing against stupid AI air defences biggrin

#3812441 - 07/21/13 02:10 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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mdore!!!!! son-9 is radar control fire of s-60 !!

one older anti air system ! with it you said looking to forward ? ?
what forward ? nope

with son-9 we will back to hitler age duh

search for sa-11 cabin control !
this 2 pictures are for sa-11 BUK
http://www.militaryparsi.ir/images/stori...vGyurosi-3S.jpg
http://www.militaryparsi.ir/images/stori...vGyurosi-2S.jpg

after osa ! we need better systems! not son-9 not nike hercules
.... like hawk like BUK something better than we have on samsim yep

sam sim future users need one and better systems with high user inter face style !


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All I need is more real scenarios, and more realistic behavior.... there is DCS already....

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Originally Posted By: piston79
All I need is more real scenarios, and more realistic behavior.... there is DCS already....


what do u mean more realistic behavior !
would u more explain ?

you meant was add to samsim IRZ decoy object ?

#3812457 - 07/21/13 02:45 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Farokh, it's not just the SON-9. It's the SA-11, SA-8 and SON-9, and a good chance of TV and optic modes being added to the ZSU-23-4, SA-2 and SA-4.

A few months ago, I was thinking that Hpasp would run out of systems to put into SAM Simulator. I was wrong, very wrong. The speed Hpasp is adding new things is increasing!

It's not just a SON-9, it's a sign there's much more to come in the future!

-----

piston79, yes there's DCS already, the aircraft and aircraft weapons in DCS are great, but the SAMs are unrealistic cartoon jokes. Besides, I want to shoot down human pilots, not bad computer AI pilots.

But it probably won't happen frown

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Dcs world and Samsim as module would be a good dream.. . smile2

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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
Originally Posted By: dfbeck
Have you ever considered porting the code to Linux?


No, as this is a quite old code, written in MS Visual Basic 6.


You developed your game in VB6??? eek

I tried the newer flavors of VB, even C#...
http://198.65.10.229/DID/Temp/DSCF2362.JPG

...but couldn't get past the long wait times (loading and working). It takes a mere couple of seconds to open VB6 under Win2K on my reliable old Dell, and output files are small and few. Not to mention the first releases of VB.NET didn't include major features like Edit and Continue and you still can't compile to native code (secure executable). EDIT: Also, older software isn't always trying to "phone home", my work PC is never online.

I see you've even used VB6's integrated Package and Deployment (setup.exe), smart thinking as it works fine with Win7/64-bit (unlike InstallShield 2x). I panicked a few years back thinking MS was going to remove VB6 runtime support from Windows (Vista). Now I'm convinced this will never happen in my lifetime, VB.NET maybe but not VB6.

Have you thought about porting or are you going to stick it out with VB6?

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Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#3812694 - 07/22/13 07:58 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: piston79]  
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Originally Posted By: piston79
All I need is more real scenarios, and more realistic behavior.... there is DCS already....


During the next weeks, I'm adding some new situations (Operation Moduler), and enhancing some of the existing ones (Operation El Dorado Canyon).
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But these will be released with the OSA, far-far away...

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Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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#3812834 - 07/22/13 03:06 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp

During the next weeks, I'm adding some new situations (Operation Moduler), and enhancing some of the existing ones (Operation El Dorado Canyon).
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dear hpasp... what do u mean about mission moduler ? i didnt hear it before it !
kind of map editor ?

so what about other bugs ?
i achieve them in one page at 25th bug topic !


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Google is your friend: Operation Moduler
He mentioned earlier that he expands by that confict.

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Will be there some new missions for others SAM,s in "OSA" release?

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There will be a completely new firing range introduced, called NAMFI with 3 NATO specific targets.



I plan to add the Cuito Cuanavale situation, where a South African Mirage F1 was killed.



Also I would like to add Libya situations, and Egypt as non-historical ones...

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#3855283 - 10/28/13 07:45 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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So, new scenarios for SA-8B only, right? No "Baltic express", no "Vladivostok"....

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Originally Posted By: ePap
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I"ll wait for the developer's answer...

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So, new scenarios for SA-8B only, right? No "Baltic express", no "Vladivostok"....


Nope.

Recreating realistic Karat view might take several years...
... but at the end, you will see an RM launch (at Ashuluk) in a different way, you see it currently.

(RM target missile engine burnout...)



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I"ll wait for the developer's answer...


This was for NAMFI ...

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Nope.

Recreating realistic Karat view might take several years...
... but at the end, you will see an RM launch (at Ashuluk) in a different way, you see it currently.

(RM engine burnout...)



Hm.. No, thanks! nope
My life is too short to wait for a realistic KARAT (an almost useless device IMHO) years from now.... I guess it is fun for you to code some visual objects, but not good old radar screen anime...
Hope you'll earn some money, making the SAM Sim with KARAT a valuable asset to some other general arms sim....

P.S. I've sent you some data for "Baltic express", also I got some time schedule for Kadena flights, but as your project goes in a way, which makes such data useless, you could delete those files.

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Originally Posted By: Hpasp

Recreating realistic Karat view might take several years...


Does that mean things aren't going well? Unfortunate if that's so.

But, you've given us a great game FOR FREE, so we can't complain. Thanks Hpasp! Keep up the good work. smile

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Wait and you will see !!!

It is not fair to complain before we see the result of Hpasp's effort .

It is not only for free but it is the only real simulator for pc .

Thanks Hpasp again .

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dear hpasp... i should say piston79 is right
as you know better than me...
samsim Known only for realistic panels and switches and great ideas behind this software

because access to the real panels for normal people was denied in all of countries !
so samsim give this gift to the people who want to see them as realistic !

did you think till now, why samsim users dont work with DCS : combine arms ?
because we LOVE realistic thing ...
we want to know the truth about sam systems ....
because we LOVE to analyze them ...
so why ? because we LOVE sam systems !

and the other side we LOVE hpasp and love samsim 4 ever salute


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@farokh : three birds singing ...

What means "we" ?
Speak for your self only .

If you want to know about real Sam systems,just buy one ...

PS : Sokrates use to use the same method of your analysis ,you know ...

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Originally Posted By: ePap
@farokh : three birds singing ...

What means "we" ?
Speak for your self only .

If you want to know about real Sam systems,just buy one ...


did you buy it for yourself ?

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Originally Posted By: ePap
@farokh : three birds singing ...

What means "we" ?
Speak for your self only .

If you want to know about real Sam systems,just buy one ...


did you buy it for yourself ?



No.I have a used one, from Alexander The Great times .It still work pefrect ....

#3855530 - 10/29/13 12:53 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: ePap]  
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Originally Posted By: farokh
Originally Posted By: ePap
@farokh : three birds singing ...

What means "we" ?
Speak for your self only .

If you want to know about real Sam systems,just buy one ...


did you buy it for yourself ?



No.I have a used one, from Alexander The Great times .It still work pefrect ....


good for you clapping
i prefer to stay with hpasp biggrin

#3855531 - 10/29/13 12:59 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Originally Posted By: ePap
Originally Posted By: farokh
Originally Posted By: ePap
@farokh : three birds singing ...

What means "we" ?
Speak for your self only .

If you want to know about real Sam systems,just buy one ...


did you buy it for yourself ?



No.I have a used one, from Alexander The Great times .It still work pefrect ....


good for you clapping
i prefer to stay with hpasp biggrin


I prefer to follow and support Hpasp.
You just stay with Hpasp and occupy only space ...

#3855538 - 10/29/13 01:13 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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exactly who supporting hpasp ?

me ? with translating documents for persian language ?
OR you with...

C'mon EPAP... im rude but i dont want make any trouble !
just keep calm like a boss.. smile2

dont forget it "We Are Friend" smile

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Originally Posted By: farokh
exactly who supporting hpasp ?

me ? with translating documents for persian language ?
OR you with...

C'mon EPAP... im rude but i dont want make any trouble !
just keep calm like a boss.. smile2


When Hpasp will speak then you will see what exactly means support !

Translation is good.But I have a question .From which language you translate into Persian ?

And by the way, I am boss of my self only .

PS: if we can have an IFF in Samsim you will use always 7777 !!!

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EPAP why you are so angry ?
do you have any problem with me ? just say it ! yep

i translate english manuals to persian language .... why you asking ?



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EPAP why you are so angry ?
do you have any problem with me ? just say it ! yep

i translate english manuals to persian language .... why you asking ?




Angry? Who said i am angry .I just ask to have common understanding what translation means .

I would expect to ask what 7777 means ! So I assume that you know that .

Any way, no (so) hard feelings ... biggrin

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EPAP why you are so angry ?
do you have any problem with me ? just say it ! yep

i translate english manuals to persian language .... why you asking ?




Angry? Who said i am angry .I just ask to have common understanding what translation means .

I would expect to ask what 7777 means ! So I assume that you know that .

Any way, no (so) hard feelings ... biggrin


first : when i get decision to PDF translating ... i using Dictionary at all
twice : do you know any iranian around athens !???
you can showing my pdf to them and when they found any bug in my PDF i paying you 100 BOX ! winkngrin

about 777 seehearspeak you asking me about one thing that i dont know any thing about it !
so let me asking you the one thing you dont know anything too ... RTFM

what is TOTOBA lamp in s-200?

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EPAP why you are so angry ?
do you have any problem with me ? just say it ! yep

i translate english manuals to persian language .... why you asking ?




Angry? Who said i am angry .I just ask to have common understanding what translation means .

I would expect to ask what 7777 means ! So I assume that you know that .

Any way, no (so) hard feelings ... biggrin


first : when i get decision to PDF translating ... i using Dictionary at all
twice : do you know any iranian around athens !???
you can showing my pdf to them and when they found any bug in my PDF i paying you 100 BOX ! winkngrin

about 777 seehearspeak you asking me about one thing that i dont know any thing about it !
so let me asking you the one thing you dont know anything too ... RTFM

what is TOTOBA lamp in s-200?


In general I know that around Athens ,especially in Marathon and Salamina, there are a lot of thousands of Persians but unfortunately I can't ask them for what you prompt me to do ...

7777 it is not difficult to explore it over the Internet,it is common in air defense as an issue .

As far as about TOTOBA, I am speechless .You got me .I don't know what it is ! If you didn't mention that it is a lamp,I would bet that is something close
to TATANGA ,if you you have seen the relevant movie !

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Originally Posted By: ePap

As far as about TOTOBA, I am speechless .You got me .I don't know what it is ! If you didn't mention that it is a lamp,I would bet that is something close
to TATANGA ,if you you have seen the relevant movie !


about TOTOBA
If the missile preparation for launch is finished, the TOTOBA (ready) lamp will illuminate
base on 44th pages from sa-5 gammon document !

about 7777 .... really i dont know anything about it... because i rejected from IR air defense ... wounded

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As far as about TOTOBA, I am speechless .You got me .I don't know what it is ! If you didn't mention that it is a lamp,I would bet that is something close
to TATANGA ,if you you have seen the relevant movie !


about TOTOBA
If the missile preparation for launch is finished, the TOTOBA (ready) lamp will illuminate
base on 44th pages from sa-5 gammon document !

about 7777 .... really i dont know anything about it... because i rejected from IR air defense ... wounded


If the specific lamp is to indicate the READY it should write GOTOB , the same with OSA AK.

I do know about IFF and 7777, you think that I can apply for job in IRAN air defense ?

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@farokh ,come on a good air defender should response quickly !

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Originally Posted By: farokh
Originally Posted By: ePap

As far as about TOTOBA, I am speechless .You got me .I don't know what it is ! If you didn't mention that it is a lamp,I would bet that is something close
to TATANGA ,if you you have seen the relevant movie !


about TOTOBA
If the missile preparation for launch is finished, the TOTOBA (ready) lamp will illuminate
base on 44th pages from sa-5 gammon document !

about 7777 .... really i dont know anything about it... because i rejected from IR air defense ... wounded


If the specific lamp is to indicate the READY it should write GOTOB , the same with OSA AK.

I do know about IFF and 7777, you think that I can apply for job in IRAN air defense ?


sorry i was on space ... biggrin
are you kidding right ? you want leave the heaven (athens) and coming to hell ? smile2
C"mon man ! iran is not good country for who living in athens...

maybe in future i can invite you to iran as a tourist but for living ,,,, nope its hard for any foreign guy

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Originally Posted By: farokh
Originally Posted By: ePap
Originally Posted By: farokh
Originally Posted By: ePap

As far as about TOTOBA, I am speechless .You got me .I don't know what it is ! If you didn't mention that it is a lamp,I would bet that is something close
to TATANGA ,if you you have seen the relevant movie !


about TOTOBA
If the missile preparation for launch is finished, the TOTOBA (ready) lamp will illuminate
base on 44th pages from sa-5 gammon document !

about 7777 .... really i dont know anything about it... because i rejected from IR air defense ... wounded


If the specific lamp is to indicate the READY it should write GOTOB , the same with OSA AK.

I do know about IFF and 7777, you think that I can apply for job in IRAN air defense ?


sorry i was on space ... biggrin
are you kidding right ? you want leave the heaven (athens) and coming to hell ? smile2
C"mon man ! iran is not good country for who living in athens...

maybe in future i can invite you to iran as a tourist but for living ,,,, nope its hard any foreign guy


I have to say that you have the guts for what you say.it is not easy.

...but still you have to be careful how to be involved in issues and not to face them with some kind of lightness ...

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Originally Posted By: Comrade_Hedgehog
Mr Hpasp!

How is the new version going?
Is the SA-8 Geko progressing well?

I seem to remember the inclusion of an optical channel being mentioned for this one?


Originally Posted By: Mdore
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3757421/Re_9K33M2_OSA_AK_SA_8B_Gecko#Post3757421

"OSA SIM will not arrive, at least until the end of 2013, at its best."

I hope I'm wrong, but good things are usually delayed. So don't be surprised if it's not released until half way through 2014.


Better to get it right though.


Its not the bullet with your name on it you have to worry about.
But the one addressed:
"To Whom It May Concern"
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Is there a chance that "OSA" release will be before 31.12.2013?

100% no. nope

I still have work left on the displays (missile rage gate).
In current state I have only Training scenarios: Hungary, Ashuluk, Ustka, and NAMFI.

I would like to include some WARTIME scenarios also when I release it.
(Libya, Angola, Egypt)

Documentation is only 20% ready. (no translations started yet)

My hand is full with other project for the holiday season.

One more - are those "holiday" projects related with SAM systems?
If you're participating with SAM modeling in another weapons sim?


I'm heavily involved in learning the operations of 7K-T Soyuz, and 7K-STMA Soyuz-TMA spacecraft.

In 2014, I will try to finish OSA for SAMSIM and the Mission Editor, where anybody could create - save - and share situations.

The Mission Editor, I think of, should not require any programming at all.
It will be easy to use for anyone, to create and share missions.
CT


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Four training scenarios? Wow! And the mission editor sounds awesome!

Thanks for all your work Hpasp, and I hope you have a great Christmas! smile

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Maybe we can see an Orbiter mod from Hpasp? Or some other project? Perhaps ballistic missiles?

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Ho man jawdrop , that can no be a coincidence. Hpash open a Sa-10B post.... (Sorry by the OT Hpasp wink )

And some people give authorization to show that.... (Official DCS: W )

S300PS



And....

SAM Improved Hawk







Expected see the rest of "Hardware" on ground. And will be a brilliant "future" soon.

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I really like the idea, but i always wait until Hpasp declares it.

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I have no credible information on the operations of the above mentioned systems.
nope


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Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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Originally Posted By: Silver_Dragon
Ho man jawdrop , that can no be a coincidence. Hpash open a Sa-10B post.... (Sorry by the OT Hpasp wink )

And some people give authorization to show that.... (Official DCS: W )

S300PS



And....

SAM Improved Hawk







Expected see the rest of "Hardware" on ground. And will be a brilliant "future" soon.


HAWK (in pics) is a Phase 1 (PIP I) configuration ,one step after IHAWk .

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Originally Posted By: Silver_Dragon
Ho man jawdrop , that can no be a coincidence. Hpash open a Sa-10B post.... (Sorry by the OT Hpasp wink )

And some people give authorization to show that.... (Official DCS: W )

S300PS



And....

SAM Improved Hawk







Expected see the rest of "Hardware" on ground. And will be a brilliant "future" soon.


I need to cool down the expectations...
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=47105&page=4
... check comment 35/36.

PS: I cannot comment any more on this topic.

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http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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They make the contact with you? Or in inversely?

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Only thing left is to hope. biggrin

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Hi Hpasp!

So whats the plans for the future right now? Other than working of course. :-)

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Currently working on the S-75M3-OP Volhov*
*Karat camera
Than Neva with Karat.

Soon I will release v0.928.3 where each mission could be selected as night one, and thus can be played with lower memory.


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http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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#4062641 - 01/11/15 08:30 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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i still wait to see sa-6 on samsim boing

#4065099 - 01/17/15 02:13 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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I am thinking of starting simulating Western SAM systems...
... historically the first could be the MIM-3 Nike Ajax, then MIM-14 Nike Hercules, Improved Nike Hercules, and the Nike Hercules ATBM system.

I have all the required information, except the required quality photos...
... so it could be a kind of 'synthetic' panel.

Any opinion on this?


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(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4065107 - 01/17/15 02:32 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
I am thinking of starting simulating Western SAM systems...
... historically the first could be the MIM-3 Nike Ajax, then MIM-14 Nike Hercules, Improved Nike Hercules, and the Nike Hercules ATBM system.

I have all the required information, except the required quality photos...
... so it could be a kind of 'synthetic' panel.

Any opinion on this?

i choose mim-23 hawk ... because iran is a greate user of this system
this system is the best system iran had
but about the historical scenario
im not sure that i cant help ...
maybe 2 scenario if i find
maybe ....
by the way

mim-23 hawk is the famous system in the world

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Originally Posted By: Hpasp


Any opinion on this?


What about contacting some US veterans or some SAM fans if they are able to take required photos?

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Originally Posted By: Hpasp


Any opinion on this?


What about contacting some US veterans or some SAM fans if they are able to take required photos?


I have no knowledge on Nike Ajax panel existing anywhere.
Improved Nike Hercules is in Italy, while Nike Hercules ATBM is in San Francisco.

I still find fascinating the development, where if you learn to operate the Nike Ajax (system with similar capabilities as the Dvina), you would be able to figure out Improved Nike Hercules (a system closer to Vega) without reading the manual.
jawdrop


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http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4065465 - 01/18/15 01:21 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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And how about modeling the CIM-10 Bomarc?
Nuclear tipped missiles, you can go wrong with proximity detonations biggrin

Regarding scenarios for SAM simulator, I believe that I gave this suggestion before but why not build fictional scenarios?
And if those fictional scenarios are to have random or randomized events such random number of enemy aircraft and random enemy aircraft flights, this would IMO give the player with following advantages:
- When playing a fictional scenario for the first time the player wouldn't have a clue of what will happen as opposed to a historical scenario which an informed player could have some level of knowledge about what will happen.
- A scenario with randomized events would be much interesting in terms or re-playability since every time a player would play such a scenario things could happen differently.
For the developer (Hpasp) fictional scenarios would IMO have the following advantage:
- I believe it would be easier to develop a fictional scenario since there's no need to research for as much information as needed when compared to historical scenarios. All it would need (for fictional scenarios) is good deal of imagination and to make this easier the developer could ask the community for ideas regarding fictional scenarios.

Finally, I want to say that I actually enjoy historical scenarios very much but IMO a mix of historical and fictional scenarios is always a good thing to have in any simulation.

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The CIM-10 BOMARC is an interesting air defense system...
... its similar to the Soviet S-50 Dal (SA-5 Griffon) that was never fielded due technical difficulties.

From FCO point of view, it would be the most boring air defense simulator, I can imagine...
... it would be similar to an IADS sim.


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http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4065581 - 01/18/15 04:35 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
The CIM-10 BOMARC is an interesting air defense system...
... its similar to the Soviet S-50 Dal (SA-5 Griffon) that was never fielded due technical difficulties.


Pff.. are you sure? nope

Canadians killed their own interceptor project to deploy BOMARC....

It was short lived due to fact thaT the main danger from USSR became ballistic missiles...

LINK

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Originally Posted By: piston79
Originally Posted By: Hpasp
The CIM-10 BOMARC is an interesting air defense system...
... its similar to the Soviet S-50 Dal (SA-5 Griffon) that was never fielded due technical difficulties.


Pff.. are you sure? nope

Canadians killed their own interceptor project to deploy BOMARC....

It was short lived due to fact thaT the main danger from USSR became ballistic missiles...

LINK


I meant that it was a mid-course updated, self guiding weapon, without any dedicated fire control radar.
Just target acquisition radars were used to guide the weapon in the vicinity of the target, than it would self guide itself onto it, using an on-board active radar.

While the S-50 Dal was abandoned and never fielded, the BOMARC was operational** in 8+2* US bases between 1959..1972.
*in Canada
** testing was ongoing still in 1972, with varying results...

Great reading here...
http://ed-thelen.org/ToDefendAndDeterTheLegacyColdWar.pdf

CONUS SAM coverage


Soviet threat



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http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4065774 - 01/18/15 10:55 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Thanks for the info Hpasp thumbsup

Speaking about the Bomarc, one of the Canadian Bomarc sites operated by the 446 SAM Squadron (located at CFB North Bay, Ontario) still exists, albeit of course deactivated - The site can be seen on Google Earth or Google maps at the following coordinates:

4625'46''N 07928'16''W


Here's the satellite view of that Bomarc site operated by the RCAF/CAF 446 (SAM) Squadron:


Ground level photos of the (abandoned) site can be seen on the following page:
http://urbexobsession.com/gallery_BOMARC


#4066104 - 01/19/15 04:18 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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I can understand the enthusiasm for BOMARC...
... only one site in Hungary could cover most of Eastern Europe, and endanger HABU flights over West Germany.
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(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4066123 - 01/19/15 04:40 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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LoL! And the nuclear warhead means that the missile doesn't need to be that precise - The missile detonated "by proximity" 1Km away from the target?? No problem biggrin

Of course if this was to be a common situation in real world, people would start having things like a 3rd eye popping on the forehead or something along those lines...

#4067505 - 01/22/15 09:56 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
I can understand the enthusiasm for BOMARC...
... only one site in Hungary could cover most of Eastern Europe, and endanger HABU flights over West Germany.
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Crikey! Look at the range on that thing!!
Whats's the Range of the SA-5 by comparison?


Its not the bullet with your name on it you have to worry about.
But the one addressed:
"To Whom It May Concern"
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Originally Posted By: Comrade_Hedgehog

Crikey! Look at the range on that thing!!
Whats's the Range of the SA-5 by comparison?



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Originally Posted By: Comrade_Hedgehog

Crikey! Look at the range on that thing!!
Whats's the Range of the SA-5 by comparison?




Soo Half the Range of the BOMARC?


Its not the bullet with your name on it you have to worry about.
But the one addressed:
"To Whom It May Concern"
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Originally Posted By: Comrade_Hedgehog


Soo Half the Range of the BOMARC?


160 km for S-200, no idea about BOMARC...

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According to this Wikipedia site:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIM-10_Bomarc

The initial BOMARC version had a range of 400km while the improved version had a range 710km.

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According to this Wikipedia site:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIM-10_Bomarc

The initial BOMARC version had a range of 400km while the improved version had a range 710km.


Hoo hooo, ouch.


Its not the bullet with your name on it you have to worry about.
But the one addressed:
"To Whom It May Concern"
#4074259 - 02/05/15 07:09 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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any decision hpasp ??? rolleyes
what we have in future ?

#4078018 - 02/13/15 01:08 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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guys whats your idea about Basic Hawk: MIM-23A ?
it could be simulate ?
i think all of this series is phase outed

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Its not the bullet with your name on it you have to worry about.
But the one addressed:
"To Whom It May Concern"
#4087751 - 03/04/15 10:50 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Hpasp, what's the status of Kub in Hungary? In CZ it should become obsolete on 1.1.2016 (even the modernized solid-state digital version) and we will be left without any SAM.... After 60 years of history....

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Can you change so that running SAM sim will be just like a window, without removing the Taskbar? Every time SAM sim crashes I can't get the taskbar back until I've rebooted the PC, which is obviously a bit of a pain.

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Originally Posted By: scrim
Can you change so that running SAM sim will be just like a window, without removing the Taskbar? Every time SAM sim crashes I can't get the taskbar back until I've rebooted the PC, which is obviously a bit of a pain.


Just start SAM Sim again and then use EXIT button in it.... thumbsup

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Oh, that works?

Reason I never thought of it is because, well, the SAM sim shortcut I'm used to is in the taskbar biggrin

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Oh, that works?

Reason I never thought of it is because, well, the SAM sim shortcut I'm used to is in the taskbar biggrin


No problem to has it on desktop, right? tuner

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Or you can call up task manager, kill explorer.exe, select New task from menu and enter explorer and hit Enter.

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at the end of march month 2015 .. no future front of us ?

#4225985 - 02/06/16 10:42 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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hpasp... no new news ? no plans yet ?
we went to second year of standby rolleyes

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Bit of S-25 (SA-1) Berkut history.

This system was fielded for 30 years, defending Moscow between 1954..1984

S-25 the first version was fielded in 1954, with the V-300 205 missile type that was produced between 1952..54 in 2924 pieces.
The double ring around Moscow had a total of 56 regiments (systems), with 60 launcher per system.
207 missile was produced between 1954..56 with more powerful engine, in 1146 pieces.
207A missile was produced between 1954..60 with even more powerful engine (90kN), in 9467 pieces.

The first modernization S-25M was fielded in 1957.
It included the SDC, T/T guidance against jamming targets, and the nuclear armed missile against formations.
207T (215) missile had 10kt warhead, produced in 1958 of 60 pieces.

Second modernization was aimed against small fast nimble jets (like the western equivalent of the MiG-17), it was fielded in 1965.
217M missile had improved maneuverability, and range from 1962.
218 (217T) missile was the equivalent of the previous type, with "special" warhead.

Third modernization resulted the S-25MA in 1968.
5Ya25 (217MA) missile with increased range.

1st Stage of the Fourth modernization resulted the S-25MAM in 1979.
5Ya25M (217MAM) missile with increased g pulling capability.

2nd Stage of the Fourth modernization resulted the S-25MR in 1982.
5Ya24 (219) missile with jamming resistant radio proximity fuse.
44N6 (5Ya24S) missile was the equivalent of the previous type, with "special" warhead.


From 1979 the replacing of the S-25MR system around Moscow started with the S-300PT, 1:1 meaning each Sz-25MR regiment (system) was replaced with an S-300PT battery.
For 1984, the replacement was done, that year 56 S-300PT defended Moscow on a double ring.

From 1989, the replacement of the 56 S-300PT batteries started with 20 S-300PM systems in the inner ring.
On the outer ring, the firing places was deserted and sold for newly built villages.

From 2007, the replacement of the 20 S-300PM batteries started with S-400 systems.
This year the plan calls to replace the half of the units (10th S-400) around Moscow.



In the same time frame, at the other side of the pond, Nike Ajax started to be fielded...

From 1954, Baltimore (7), Chicago (22), New York (19), Philadelphia (12), San Francisco (12), and Washington (13) started to receive Nike Ajax batteries.

From 1955, Boston (12), Detroit (15), Hanford (4), Los Angeles (16), Milwaukee (8), Niagara Falls (4), Norfolk (9), Pittsburgh (12), Seattle (11) continued the Ajax deployment.

From 1956, Bridgeport (6), Buffalo (4), Cleveland (8), Fairchild AFB (4), Hartford (6), Providence (7) received Ajax systems.

In 1957, three SAC bases received the Ajax; Ellsworth AFB (4), Loring AFB (4), Travis AFB (4).

total Ajax fielding - 223 CONUS - 24 Europe - 103 Storage
total production run was - 350 systems and 13.714 missiles

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Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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I vote for S-25 at first to have Soviet line completed, I think someone from Russia can take the required photos in museum.

Anyway, thanks for the info thumbsup

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What happened with the "Mission editor" project? Is it going to happen or it is a "No go"?...

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Yes, mission editor and more advanced properties of Vega (incoming ARM locking, more advanced jamming and so on)!

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I also thing more jamming would be awesome. Also mission editor. smile

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dear hpasp.. im so impresive that why one modern country like hungary still using from 2k12 at this edge of technology !
if tajikistan do it or bulgaria or azarbaijan..yes cause they havent good cash for modern equipment but why your defense organization still use them ?
every one knows this system cant stand alone front of new war waves ...
it was my question.

also.. bbc persian one year ago publish that hungary in 2016 want to use modern western sam and atbm systems
of course bbc persian doesnt talk about sa6 in hungary

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Because of the ignorant and corrupt Hungarian politicans, who have devastated the Hungarian Defense Forces, since the regime change around 1990... It's a very sad story... mad
Nowdays Hungary spend approximately 0,7% of the GDP for the military. confused frown

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#4228780 - 02/13/16 03:56 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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The situation in CZ is the same, we have a hugely upgraded Kub (all-solid-state electronics including radar and digital control), but it is the only true SAM we have. And we were among the first countries to receive the first Dvinas back in the late 50's banghead

Western side was so aware of Vega, that our corrupt politicians ordered to promptly dismantle both Vega sites and to sell the equipment to some foreign buyers. First Vega site lasted about 10 years and the second one not even that "long".

Our only S-300 passed to Slovakia, another sad story....

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........... dismantle both Vega sites and to sell the equipment to some foreign buyers...



Who bought them, any ideas?

#4228858 - 02/13/16 08:22 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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I will try to find, Libya or some similar country, will let you know....

#4229335 - 02/15/16 02:47 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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as hpasp said (we ran out frim cold war) its means he wants an evolution in samsim ... of course accsess to modern systems are hard and every body know this ..
hpasp is a normal person like us without any support
so we cant want something supernatural from him

but i love to know about
oldest members in here and samsim developer(hpasp) to discuss about a future (even in theory phase only)

so guys .. what is your opinion about different systems can be simulate in samsim ?

1.roland system
2.rapier
or
retired systems from west
3.mim23A first prototype
4.patriot command guided

ps1: we cant forget epap's help from aten who helping to hpasp aswel in sa8 delopment ... why we cant get another help from him for our samsim future ? he has alot of friends in aten air defense in each systems

ps2: ive question about our final dream in cold war sams... its about sa-6
each people knows that hungary and cz upgrade themself in sa6 completly ...
with this upgrades ... we have alot of different in analog sa6 and digital version of it ...
so why you dear (hpasp) cant access to oldest version of sa6 ? i remember oldest sa6 (used against our phantom E by iraq) with maximum 17km range
and im sure there is alot of different between modern sa6 in servise and oldest sa6 in meuseum !

tanks for read guys

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#4229360 - 02/15/16 03:55 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Crazy idea...
Lets design our own system for Hpasp to create. smile

All of us would throw in ideas, and we could debate what would go into our system and what not. We could limit ourselves to cold war era technology. And be very thorough... Go into all the details of a missile, radar, everything really. It would be difficult but interesting as #%&*$#! biggrin

Maybe Im just wishfull, what do you all think, Hpasp?

#4229522 - 02/15/16 09:50 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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So we would create an S-300? thumbsup

#4231564 - 02/20/16 08:28 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4231574 - 02/20/16 09:18 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Atari SAM?????


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#4231918 - 02/21/16 08:24 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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It's S-25 I'm pretty sure....

#4232499 - 02/23/16 08:11 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp



is that berkut hpasp

is that true that this system has multi trachking channel ?

#4233785 - 02/26/16 02:20 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Interesting reading, but without any promises...
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http://www.mediafire.com/download/b5z1iaryibfzeqi/Berkut.pdf


Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4233980 - 02/26/16 09:33 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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#4234122 - 02/27/16 08:06 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
Interesting reading, but without any promises...
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http://www.mediafire.com/download/b5z1iaryibfzeqi/Berkut.pdf


Any contacts with Nike and Bloodhound communities?

#4234178 - 02/27/16 12:48 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Not tried.
S-25 could give me lot of work for long time.
2 major system versions, 9 missile types (including 3 nukes skullhead) ...
... hardly can wait to try unleashing its multi-channel capability at Hanoi...
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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4234234 - 02/27/16 05:03 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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I'd rather see S-25 first to have Soviet line complete (until Kub will become declassified).

Western systems will be logical step then.

#4234310 - 02/27/16 09:51 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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im so impressive why berkut never export to another warsaw members ?
because its too better than sa2 ?
what is your idelogy about comparing between volhov and bekut ?

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#4234413 - 02/28/16 07:38 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Just its price tag.
One fire channel of Berkut costed 9 million Rubles that time (comparable to Volhov), but each system had 20...

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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4235682 - 03/02/16 01:39 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4237734 - 03/08/16 07:21 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Far from final...



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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4240195 - 03/15/16 06:55 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4240237 - 03/15/16 09:01 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Looking good! thumbsup

#4240397 - 03/16/16 11:17 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: P_M_CS]  
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Originally Posted By: P_M_CS
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Because of the ignorant and corrupt Hungarian politicans, who have devastated the Hungarian Defense Forces, since the regime change around 1990... It's a very sad story... mad
Nowdays Hungary spend approximately 0,7% of the GDP for the military. confused frown

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It was a deliberate plan to demilitarize the "unreliable" Eastern Europe. In order for "peaceful colonization". Think about who has overseen the destruction of the ukrainian military the same way... (then) Senator Obama. Now their government overthrown by external support - they became "reliable". This is how things work.

But sorry for being OFF.

#4254637 - 04/30/16 07:05 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Hpasp, is there any progress with Berkut? Some models, screenshots? thumbsup

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Minor progress only...



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http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4254811 - 05/01/16 05:31 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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progress is slow, but steady
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(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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Is it technically possible to have a mission editor in a bright future....?

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Originally Posted By: piston79
Is it technically possible to have a mission editor in a bright future....?


Actually a mission editor is exist, that is how I made the situations.
But its not in a releasable state (quite complex, no documentation, and sometimes require code change), but if there is interest, please open a topic for it, and start collecting requirements.
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http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4260198 - 05/14/16 06:59 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
Originally Posted By: piston79
Is it technically possible to have a mission editor in a bright future....?


Actually a mission editor is exist, that is how I made the situations.
But its not in a releasable state (quite complex, no documentation, and sometimes require code change), but if there is interest, please open a topic for it, and start collecting requirements.
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I am interested in new historical scenarios, more SAM functions simulated and some new types jamming maybe...
I guess doing missions for us is the last thing you would do with joy, probably the mission editor is the solution for both sides......

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Are you entering the World of 3D modelling Mr. Hpasp?

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Its not the bullet with your name on it you have to worry about.
But the one addressed:
"To Whom It May Concern"
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Nope, it is drawn for me by somebody else...



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http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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#4286622 - 08/11/16 04:27 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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This one is also a possibility.
(guiding F-106, and launching BOMARC)



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http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4288090 - 08/17/16 12:02 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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What ? ://///
Bumarc is an thriple xlarge in missile shapes
How f106 can lift it ? :||||
Do u have any pics of it ?

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Originally Posted By: farokh
What ? ://///
Bumarc is an thriple xlarge in missile shapes
How f106 can lift it ? :||||
Do u have any pics of it ?


No, it is SAGE IADS, and it commands F-106 and BOMARC sites...

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Hpasp, how are you doing with Berkut? Is there any progress?

Also apart from already mentioned suggestions (better Vega simulation - incoming ARM detection, more anti/jamming modes and so on, mission editor) I would suggest RD-75 for Volchov and PRV's for all SAMs. thumbsup I think the latter could be quite easy to implement.

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Im in the waiting mode.
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With the Berkut I wait for the panel to be finalized, while at the SAGE I have the photos, but I need to wait for some manuals.

So in the meantime, Im editing a historical material about the Infrared missiles...
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Click to reveal..
Contents .................................................................................................................................2
Foreword ................................................................................................................................3
Summary ................................................................................................................................4
Proportional Navigation .........................................................................................................6
Hardware implementation of proportional navigation ........................................................7
Optics .................................................................................................................................7
Target infrared signature, and sensor material sensitivity.......................................................8
Target Aspect angle ................................................................................................................8
Lead Sulfide (PbS) photo resistor ............................................................................................9
Spin Scan tracker (AM logic) ............................................................................................. 10
AIM-9A/B Sidewinder ................................................................................................... 12
R-3S (K-13) Article 310, R-3S (K-13A) Article 310A (AA-2A Atoll) .................................... 14
9K32 Strela-2 (SA-7 Grail) .............................................................................................. 16
9K31 Strela-1 (SA-9 Gaskin) ........................................................................................... 18
R-60 (K-60) Article 62 (AA-8A Aphid) ............................................................................. 21
Cooled Lead Sulfide (PbS) detector ....................................................................................... 22
AIM-9D Sidewinder (NAVY) ........................................................................................... 22
MIM-72A/B Chaparral ................................................................................................... 24
AIM-9E Sidewinder (USAF) ............................................................................................ 26
AIM-9F Sidewinder (NATO) ........................................................................................... 26
AIM-9G Sidewinder (NAVY) ........................................................................................... 27
AIM-9H Sidewinder (NAVY) ........................................................................................... 27
AIM-9J/N/P Sidewinder (USAF) ..................................................................................... 28
FIM-43C Redeye............................................................................................................ 29
R-13M (K-13M) Article 380 (AA-2C Atoll) ...................................................................... 30
R-23T (K-23) Article 360 (AA-7B Apex) .......................................................................... 31
Onboard thermal jammer ..................................................................................................... 32
Conical Scan tracker, (FM logic) ............................................................................................ 35
9K34 Strela-3 (SA-14 Gremlin) ....................................................................................... 37
9K35 Strela-10SV (SA-13A Gopher) ............................................................................... 38
Cooled Indium Antimonide (InSb) detector ....................................................................... 39
AIM-9L Sidewinder........................................................................................................ 40
MIM-72C Chaparral ...................................................................................................... 43
MIM-72E/F Chaparral ................................................................................................... 43
FIM-92A Stinger Basic ................................................................................................... 44
9K310 Igla-1 (SA-16 Gimlet) .......................................................................................... 45
R-60M (K-60M) Article 62M (AA-8B Aphid) ................................................................... 47
Pyrotechnic Flare .................................................................................................................. 48
Flare filtering by position .................................................................................................. 50
9K35M Strela-10M (SA-13B Gopher) ............................................................................. 50
Flare filtering by energy rise time ..................................................................................... 52
AIM-9M Sidewinder ...................................................................................................... 52
R-73 (K-73) Article 72 (AA-11 Archer) ............................................................................ 53
Crossed Linear Array Tracker ............................................................................................ 55
Mistral .......................................................................................................................... 56
Dual Band Seeker .............................................................................................................. 58
9K38 Igla (SA-18 Grouse)............................................................................................... 59
9K338 Igla-S (SA-24 Grinch) ........................................................................................... 60
Cadmium Sulfide (CdS) detector ........................................................................................... 61
Rosette scan tracker (pseudo imaging seeker) .................................................................. 62
FIM-92B Stinger POST (Passive Optical Seeker Technique) ............................................ 63
FIM-92C Stinger RMP (Reprogrammable Microprocessor) ............................................ 63
FIM-92E Stinger Block-I ................................................................................................. 64
Stinger Block-II .............................................................................................................. 64
MIM-72G Chaparral ...................................................................................................... 65
Pyrophoric decoy .................................................................................................................. 66
Imaging seeker ................................................................................................................. 67
AIM-9X Sidewinder ....................................................................................................... 68
DIRCM (Directional Infrared Countermeasure) ..................................................................... 69
Air to Air Missiles technical summary ................................................................................... 70
Man Portable Air Defense Missiles technical summary ......................................................... 71
Short Range Air Defense Missiles technical summary ........................................................... 71
Resources ............................................................................................................................. 72

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#4294727 - 09/09/16 11:52 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Nice. You could also add ASAT seeker, it had a form of strips which rotated (whole device rotated) to detect the target's position in FOV.

#4294731 - 09/09/16 11:59 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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And I have another suggestion - you could also make a description of all ECCM types (not necessarily to have it simulated) for all systems in SAMSIM.
Just to have complete knowledge thumbsup

#4294747 - 09/09/16 12:59 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]  
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Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
And I have another suggestion - you could also make a description of all ECCM types (not necessarily to have it simulated) for all systems in SAMSIM.
Just to have complete knowledge thumbsup


I can certainly help with Volkhov, Mod-3 onwards! All ECCM features that I have seen mentioned in literature:

SDC
Variable PRF
Frequency vobulation ("skachok" in russian)
GShV in angle channels
Track on leading edge in range, probably coupled with GShV mode.
Diskriminator
Kanal
RD-75 range-only radar.
Karat
Missile channel protection
Home-on-jam (via I-87V/TT)

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#4296984 - 09/17/16 11:24 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4297473 - 09/19/16 05:10 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4297612 - 09/20/16 06:51 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Nice thumbsup

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