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#4228463 - 02/12/16 06:16 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Yes, mission editor and more advanced properties of Vega (incoming ARM locking, more advanced jamming and so on)!

Inline advert (2nd and 3rd post)

#4228671 - 02/13/16 06:44 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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I also thing more jamming would be awesome. Also mission editor. smile

#4228699 - 02/13/16 09:11 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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dear hpasp.. im so impresive that why one modern country like hungary still using from 2k12 at this edge of technology !
if tajikistan do it or bulgaria or azarbaijan..yes cause they havent good cash for modern equipment but why your defense organization still use them ?
every one knows this system cant stand alone front of new war waves ...
it was my question.

also.. bbc persian one year ago publish that hungary in 2016 want to use modern western sam and atbm systems
of course bbc persian doesnt talk about sa6 in hungary

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#4228711 - 02/13/16 10:07 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Because of the ignorant and corrupt Hungarian politicans, who have devastated the Hungarian Defense Forces, since the regime change around 1990... It's a very sad story... mad
Nowdays Hungary spend approximately 0,7% of the GDP for the military. confused frown

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#4228780 - 02/13/16 03:56 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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The situation in CZ is the same, we have a hugely upgraded Kub (all-solid-state electronics including radar and digital control), but it is the only true SAM we have. And we were among the first countries to receive the first Dvinas back in the late 50's banghead

Western side was so aware of Vega, that our corrupt politicians ordered to promptly dismantle both Vega sites and to sell the equipment to some foreign buyers. First Vega site lasted about 10 years and the second one not even that "long".

Our only S-300 passed to Slovakia, another sad story....

#4228783 - 02/13/16 04:00 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]  
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Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
........... dismantle both Vega sites and to sell the equipment to some foreign buyers...



Who bought them, any ideas?

#4228858 - 02/13/16 08:22 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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I will try to find, Libya or some similar country, will let you know....

#4229335 - 02/15/16 02:47 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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as hpasp said (we ran out frim cold war) its means he wants an evolution in samsim ... of course accsess to modern systems are hard and every body know this ..
hpasp is a normal person like us without any support
so we cant want something supernatural from him

but i love to know about
oldest members in here and samsim developer(hpasp) to discuss about a future (even in theory phase only)

so guys .. what is your opinion about different systems can be simulate in samsim ?

1.roland system
2.rapier
or
retired systems from west
3.mim23A first prototype
4.patriot command guided

ps1: we cant forget epap's help from aten who helping to hpasp aswel in sa8 delopment ... why we cant get another help from him for our samsim future ? he has alot of friends in aten air defense in each systems

ps2: ive question about our final dream in cold war sams... its about sa-6
each people knows that hungary and cz upgrade themself in sa6 completly ...
with this upgrades ... we have alot of different in analog sa6 and digital version of it ...
so why you dear (hpasp) cant access to oldest version of sa6 ? i remember oldest sa6 (used against our phantom E by iraq) with maximum 17km range
and im sure there is alot of different between modern sa6 in servise and oldest sa6 in meuseum !

tanks for read guys

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#4229360 - 02/15/16 03:55 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Crazy idea...
Lets design our own system for Hpasp to create. smile

All of us would throw in ideas, and we could debate what would go into our system and what not. We could limit ourselves to cold war era technology. And be very thorough... Go into all the details of a missile, radar, everything really. It would be difficult but interesting as #%&*$#! biggrin

Maybe Im just wishfull, what do you all think, Hpasp?

#4229522 - 02/15/16 09:50 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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So we would create an S-300? thumbsup

#4231564 - 02/20/16 08:28 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4231574 - 02/20/16 09:18 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Atari SAM?????


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#4231918 - 02/21/16 08:24 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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It's S-25 I'm pretty sure....

#4232499 - 02/23/16 08:11 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp



is that berkut hpasp

is that true that this system has multi trachking channel ?

#4233785 - 02/26/16 02:20 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Interesting reading, but without any promises...
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http://www.mediafire.com/download/b5z1iaryibfzeqi/Berkut.pdf


Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4233980 - 02/26/16 09:33 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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#4234122 - 02/27/16 08:06 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
Interesting reading, but without any promises...
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http://www.mediafire.com/download/b5z1iaryibfzeqi/Berkut.pdf


Any contacts with Nike and Bloodhound communities?

#4234178 - 02/27/16 12:48 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Not tried.
S-25 could give me lot of work for long time.
2 major system versions, 9 missile types (including 3 nukes skullhead) ...
... hardly can wait to try unleashing its multi-channel capability at Hanoi...
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Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4234234 - 02/27/16 05:03 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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I'd rather see S-25 first to have Soviet line complete (until Kub will become declassified).

Western systems will be logical step then.

#4234310 - 02/27/16 09:51 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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im so impressive why berkut never export to another warsaw members ?
because its too better than sa2 ?
what is your idelogy about comparing between volhov and bekut ?

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