#3814492 - 07/26/13 10:38 AM
Re: AARs
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farokh
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I think it's more because the bombers are using the wrong type of jammer, and maybe that missiles are too accurate.
its not about jammer or somthing else ! i guess they doesnt had 11s switch for attack to jamer targets ! be aware that they used from sa-2C and we used sa-2F of course this is my guess ... maybe im wrong maybe im close to truth !
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#3814971 - 07/27/13 08:13 AM
Re: AARs
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By 1972 the US were using modulated noise jamming, which looks like this. No jamming. Okay, that's from an SA-3 not an SA-2, but the idea is the same. Modulated noise jamming makes multiple moving bands of jamming, not a single thick one. That makes it virtually impossible to know exactly the angles to the target.
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#3923353 - 03/11/14 07:27 PM
Re: AARs
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milo11
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I´ve been practicing a lot the first lybian scenario with s-125 This is my best result so far (i find this scenario extremely difficult, to achieve some results any given day i have to practice it a lot before getting something, and i find almost impossible to get your snr surviving after some shots). Operation El-Dorado Canyon raid against Benghazi. S-125M1 Neva 2 A-7 corsair kills 1 hit on a-6 intruder. SNR survives
2:00am 15th of April, 1986. Operation El-Dorado Canyon raid against Benghazi.
Targets: Jamahiriyah barracks - 6 A-6E Intruder (from the CV-66 USS America) Benghazi AFB - 6 A-6E Intruder (from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea)
Supporting force: 8 SEAD F/A-18A Hornet (VMFA-314 Black Knights, VMFA-323 Death Rattlers from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) 2 SEAD A-7E Corsair-II (VA-46 Clansmen, VA-72 Blue Hawks from the CV-66 USS America) 6 CAP F/A-18A Hornet (VFA-131 Wildcats, VFA-132 Privateers from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) 3 ECM EA-6B Prowler (VAQ-135 Rooks, VMAQ-2 Playboys from both carriers) 1 SIGINT EA-3B Skywarrior (VQ-2 Sandeman from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) 2 AWACS E-2C Hawkeye (VAW-127 Seabats from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea)
S-125M1 Neva
22:21, P-15 knocked out by HARM.
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00:04:00, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-2 Target distance: 5km Target azimuth: 189° Target elevation: 29° Target altitude: 2,8km Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)
00:04:09, Missile exploded on Channel-2 A-7E Corsair-II No.1, VA-46 Clansmen killed by SAM. (miss distance: 6m)
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00:04:15, A-6E Intruder No.1 (from the CV-66 USS America) bombed Jamahiriyah barracks. 00:04:16, A-6E Intruder No.1 (from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) bombed Benghazi AFB.
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00:05:01, A-6E Intruder No.2 (from the CV-66 USS America) bombed Jamahiriyah barracks. 00:05:02, A-6E Intruder No.2 (from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) bombed Benghazi AFB.
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00:05:47, A-6E Intruder No.3 (from the CV-66 USS America) bombed Jamahiriyah barracks. 00:05:48, A-6E Intruder No.3 (from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) bombed Benghazi AFB.
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00:05:54, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-2 Target distance: 5km Target azimuth: 156° Target elevation: 28° Target altitude: 2,8km Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)
00:06:04, Missile exploded on Channel-2 A-6E Intruder No.3 (from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) hit by SAM. (miss distance: 74m)
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00:06:33, A-6E Intruder No.4 (from the CV-66 USS America) bombed Jamahiriyah barracks. 00:06:34, A-6E Intruder No.4 (from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) bombed Benghazi AFB.
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00:07:19, A-6E Intruder No.5 (from the CV-66 USS America) bombed Jamahiriyah barracks. 00:07:19, A-6E Intruder No.5 (from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) bombed Benghazi AFB.
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00:08:05, A-6E Intruder No.6 (from the CV-66 USS America) bombed Jamahiriyah barracks.
00:08:05, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-2 Target distance: 5km Target azimuth: 189° Target elevation: 33° Target altitude: 2,8km Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)
00:08:05, A-6E Intruder No.6 (from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) bombed Benghazi AFB.
00:08:13, Missile exploded on Channel-2 A-7E Corsair-II No.2, VA-46 Clansmen killed by SAM. (miss distance: 8m)
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Total, SNR On Air Time: 3min 41sec
Last edited by milo11; 03/11/14 08:47 PM.
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#3924785 - 03/14/14 06:00 PM
Re: AARs
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milo11
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Same scenario with sa-2e volhov. Again the same principles as with neva (keeping illuminating-firing-detonation cycle time to a minimum < 10 secs). No "flashing car bug" (as it only works with dvina) was used. Operation El-Dorado Canyon raid against Benghazi. 2 x a-7e corasir II kills 2 x f/a-18 kills SNR survives
2:00am 15th of April, 1986. Operation El-Dorado Canyon raid against Benghazi.
Targets: Jamahiriyah barracks - 6 A-6E Intruder (from the CV-66 USS America) Benghazi AFB - 6 A-6E Intruder (from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea)
Supporting force: 8 SEAD F/A-18A Hornet (VMFA-314 Black Knights, VMFA-323 Death Rattlers from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) 2 SEAD A-7E Corsair-II (VA-46 Clansmen, VA-72 Blue Hawks from the CV-66 USS America) 6 CAP F/A-18A Hornet (VFA-131 Wildcats, VFA-132 Privateers from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) 3 ECM EA-6B Prowler (VAQ-135 Rooks, VMAQ-2 Playboys from both carriers) 1 SIGINT EA-3B Skywarrior (VQ-2 Sandeman from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) 2 AWACS E-2C Hawkeye (VAW-127 Seabats from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea)
S-75M3 Volkhov
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00:03:36, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-1 Target distance: 5km Target azimuth: 179° Target elevation: 31° Target altitude: 2,9km SNR mode: Wide Beam - 75km Missile guidance method: UPR (Half Lead)
00:03:44, Missile exploded on Channel-1 A-7E Corsair-II No.1, VA-46 Clansmen killed by SAM. (miss distance: 33m) 00:04:15, A-6E Intruder No.1 (from the CV-66 USS America) bombed Jamahiriyah barracks. 00:04:16, A-6E Intruder No.1 (from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) bombed Benghazi AFB. 00:05:01, A-6E Intruder No.2 (from the CV-66 USS America) bombed Jamahiriyah barracks. 00:05:02, A-6E Intruder No.2 (from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) bombed Benghazi AFB. 00:05:47, A-6E Intruder No.3 (from the CV-66 USS America) bombed Jamahiriyah barracks. 00:05:48, A-6E Intruder No.3 (from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) bombed Benghazi AFB. 00:06:33, A-6E Intruder No.4 (from the CV-66 USS America) bombed Jamahiriyah barracks. 00:06:34, A-6E Intruder No.4 (from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) bombed Benghazi AFB. 00:07:19, A-6E Intruder No.5 (from the CV-66 USS America) bombed Jamahiriyah barracks. 00:07:19, A-6E Intruder No.5 (from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) bombed Benghazi AFB. 00:08:05, A-6E Intruder No.6 (from the CV-66 USS America) bombed Jamahiriyah barracks. 00:08:05, A-6E Intruder No.6 (from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) bombed Benghazi AFB.
00:08:13, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-1 Target distance: 5km Target azimuth: 199° Target elevation: 33° Target altitude: 2,9km SNR mode: Wide Beam - 75km Missile guidance method: UPR (Half Lead)
00:08:21, Missile exploded on Channel-1 A-7E Corsair-II No.2, VA-46 Clansmen killed by SAM. (miss distance: 7m)
00:09:37, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-1 Target distance: 5km Target azimuth: 14° Target elevation: 32° Target altitude: 2,9km SNR mode: Wide Beam - 75km Missile guidance method: UPR (Half Lead)
00:09:44, Missile exploded on Channel-1 F/A-18A Hornet No.2, VMFA-314 Black Knights killed by SAM. (miss distance: 16m)
00:13:29, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-1 Target distance: 5km Target azimuth: 348° Target elevation: 32° Target altitude: 2,9km SNR mode: Wide Beam - 75km Missile guidance method: UPR (Half Lead)
00:13:36, Missile exploded on Channel-1 F/A-18A Hornet No.1, VMFA-314 Black Knights killed by SAM. (miss distance: 18m)
Total, SNR On Air Time: 18min 48sec
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#4369530 - 07/17/17 12:18 AM
Re: AARs
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Milten
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A funny situation 2 missiles against SEAD planes, SNR off after first one hit (second still on the way) and then..a blind hit on A-6! Anyone could explain how it happened? My lock was on A-7, I am sure of that. S-75M3 Volkhov
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00:01:11, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-1 Target distance: 34km Target azimuth: 190° Target elevation: 2° Target altitude: 1,2km SNR mode: Wide Beam - 150km Missile guidance method: UPR (Half Lead)
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00:01:17, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-2 Target distance: 33km Target azimuth: 190° Target elevation: 2° Target altitude: 1,2km SNR mode: Wide Beam - 150km Missile guidance method: UPR (Half Lead)
00:01:27, A-7E Corsair-II No.1, VA-46 Clansmen launched AGM-88 HARM missile No. 1
00:01:52, Missile exploded on Channel-1 A-7E Corsair-II No.1, VA-46 Clansmen killed by SAM. (miss distance: 13m)
00:01:59, Missile exploded on Channel-2 A-6E Intruder No.1 (from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) hit by SAM. (miss distance: 174m)
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Total, SNR On Air Time: 1min 7sec
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#4369566 - 07/17/17 04:30 AM
Re: AARs
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Exodus
by RedOneAlpha. 04/18/24 05:46 PM
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