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#2922541 - 12/18/09 08:55 PM Re: F-15 and Windows 7 anyone? [Re: MattUNI2001_131st]  
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Just got a PNY nVidia 9800GT 1GB DDR3 video card and everything still works exactly the way it did with my old radeon onboard card. I start the game, hit alt-control-delete, click show task manager (which brings me to my desktop), then click on the minimized Janes F-15 game icon in the task bar, and all of the menus come back up fully functional.

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#2939805 - 01/15/10 01:15 AM Re: F-15 and Windows 7 anyone? [Re: MattUNI2001_131st]  
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I've made several attempts and never got the menus working. I can get the initial menu up just fine, but sub menus are just partially drawn. I can fish around for buttons and sometimes get something to go. I did get in the air once, but the colors were all wrong and the game crashed after about a minute or two.

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#2939849 - 01/15/10 03:03 AM Re: F-15 and Windows 7 anyone? [Re: Goblin]  
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I have a very similar set up to yours (win7 pro 64bit and 285 card), and I was just about to write saying "thanks" to the poster who mentioned the 'task manager' trick because I was able to get up and running last night.

I installed from the cd, installed the patch, then ran the sim. the menus quickly became unresponsive, so I tried switching to the task manager, then immediately hitting cancel, then I'd get back to the menus and they'd be working. It's not ideal, of course, because the menus quit working after a little bit and you end up 'task managering' way too many times (setting the options were a lot of fun as you can imagine).

But once in the sim it ran really well, at the least the few single missions I tried. I installed the .84c glide wrapper, that worked well too.

too bad you can't get it going, figured I'd post because your system is so close to mine.

#2959676 - 02/17/10 07:23 AM Re: F-15 and Windows 7 anyone? [Re: speck01]  
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Hi All,

I have Jane's F-15 running on Windows 7 64bit Professional. Running in compatibility mode, using WinXP service pack 2. Also using the Glide Wrapper. The Glide Wrapper was helpful in smoothing out the graphics. I am now trying to get anti-aliasing to smooth all the edges.

As others have noted, the menu lacks the buttons. If you click near the right bottom of the screen you can usually change screens and start a mission.

Another problem I am experiencing is a flickering panel. Hopefully I can find a solution for that.

By the way, I am running Jane's FA-18 on Windows 7 64bit Professional. I am running it in compatibility mode, using Win98. Also I am using the download, FA-18 One Click Installer Setup. Once I ran the installer, I was able to get Jane's FA-18 running stable and looking beautiful.

Out of here,
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#2968368 - 03/01/10 08:55 AM Re: F-15 and Windows 7 anyone? [Re: LawnDartLeo]  
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Did you try to run the exe file in compatability mode? (XP sp3)
IIRC F15 runs well in xp.


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#2981059 - 03/22/10 09:40 PM Re: F-15 and Windows 7 anyone? [Re: Nicolaas]  
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Hey all!
Im glad I found this topic as I got re-interested in poping in my Jane's F15.

I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, in a MSI GX620 laptop (nvidia 9600GTM). The installation of the cd and patch work flawless, but when I launch the game, I get the NON-WORKING menus.

The CRTL-ALT-DEL trick didn't work for me in the beginning. After a few attemps I tried to navigate ingame with bad menus. Eventually I reached the options, and miscelaneous, and managed to disable TOOL-TIPS, intro/exit VIDEOS and other things in the miscellaneous menu. After this, I can do CTRl-ALT-DEL and then just go back to the game(no need to open taskbar manager) and the menu will work !

It was so nice to see this game again, and the music in menus, oh man, brings back big memories. In game works good without glide, although you don't get the 3Dfx graphics smile With the GlideWrap, I'm able to select 3Dfx and get smooth frames and effects, HOWEVER, I have no I idea how to make things look sharp, everything is so blurry, the HUD, the horizon, the plane. I don't know how to change resolution (my max could be 1280x800, but it's not in the options of either the game or glidewrap).

If I try to use DirectX I get the errors when loading a mission saying "unable to load DirectDraw" or something like that. Does anybody know how to make this work?

I was also trying the trick I used to launch Fighters Anthology (YES! I'm able to play it PERFECTLY in windows 7!). Install the game, install the patch, and then create a BATCH file (new text file, and change extension to .bat) with the following lines.

Code:
rem First kill Explorer.exe, which messes up our colors
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe

rem Change to the FA directory to make sure we run normally!
cd "D:\Games\fa"

rem Please note that makes sure we only use our first core
rem Using all cores for FA.exe can lead to crashes in Windows 7
cmd.exe /C start D:\Games\fa\Fa.exe

rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause

rem Restart Explorer.exe and WallRotate, that's it!
start explorer.exe
exit



The idea is to stop "explorer.exe" while the game is running, this avoids color corruptions and the game runs amazing, so amazing that i've been playing online with some friends! hehe. I tried this with F15 but doesn't do much.

Any updates please let me know, I will keep you posted also :):) cheers and hail to the best physics model in the sims industry, Jane's F15 !!!


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#3597954 - 06/27/12 05:05 AM Re: F-15 and Windows 7 anyone? [Re: jens198]  
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Hello! I tried following the directions in this thread and I ended up using the Glide wrapper linked in a previous post. Combined with the CTRL+ALT+DEL trick, this thing is almost perfect.
The only issues I have are:

1) The menu bug exists (having to use the CTRL+ALT+DEL workaround isn't very fun but oh well)
2) I have a widescreen laptop monitor. Normally when I set games to a 4:3 resolution (including when I was able to use other Glide wrappers on other games such as Powerslide, but this is the only one that has worked for me), the screen will show up in a 4:3 aspect ratio and there will be black bars on the side, so I don't have problems with the graphics distorting or looking "fat". But when I use this Glide wrapper on F-15, the screen is stretched out, so everything distorts when I rotate and the graphics are, as I put it, "fat".

I tried using a different Glide Wrapper, nGlide, but the only way I've been able to get it both playable (i.e. not really choppy in cockpit view) and in 4:3 results in glitchy graphics (the cockpit graphics seem to "melt", it's hard to describe) and a lot of the text in the cockpit is illegible.

So far I guess I might just have to play with everything distorted, as much as I can't stand to. Better than nothing!
But if anyone knows how to fix this, it'd be appreciated.

Edit: I mindlessly fiddled with the wrapper settings and now it appears to be the correct ratio, just small, and in the center. I guess I have to mess with the settings some more.

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#3605587 - 07/12/12 03:52 AM Re: F-15 and Windows 7 anyone? [Re: jens198]  
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Hello! I'm also a long time fan of Jane's F-15,as i have a dual boot computer(WinXp sp3-Win7 32bit)i can run F-15 in XP without any problem,but as an experiment i did try to install and run it in Win7 through "Virtualbox" (a free virtual machine)with WinXP sp3 as a guest OS and it works! except that the simulation can only be run in software mode:-(

VirtualBox is available at: https://www.virtualbox.org/
Don't forget the extension pack:to get your usb joystick to work.....
You need a WindowsXp install disc.

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#3605603 - 07/12/12 04:38 AM Re: F-15 and Windows 7 anyone? [Re: jens198]  
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Hi All,

Look in the Screenshot & Video Gallery Forum for topic, "I got Janes F-15 running perfect!" Force10 has pictures and gives a step by step explanation of how he got Janes F-15 running.
Some time ago, I had Janes F-15 working on my computer, but I could not get the menus to appear using the Alt+Cont+Del keys. I will have to try Force10's setup and see if the menus will appear for me. Janes F-15 was my favorite Study Sim, I liked it even better than Janes F/A-18. Janes F/A-18 however, taught me how to land my jet on a Carrier and that has been extremely useful when landing on other Carriers in other Combat Flight Simulators.

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#3605864 - 07/12/12 04:40 PM Re: F-15 and Windows 7 anyone? [Re: jens198]  
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I will have to try that one out because I cannot stand the screen stretching out smile

#3605890 - 07/12/12 05:31 PM Re: F-15 and Windows 7 anyone? [Re: jens198]  
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Let me know if my instructions worked for anyone else...or did I just get lucky.


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#3606025 - 07/12/12 10:16 PM Re: F-15 and Windows 7 anyone? [Re: Force10]  
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I tried to locate your instruction but couldn't find them. Could you repost?
Thanks


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#3606157 - 07/13/12 06:42 AM Re: F-15 and Windows 7 anyone? [Re: sobe]  
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I tried to locate your instruction but couldn't find them. Could you repost?
Thanks


Here ya go: My last post with the screenies..

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3604991/I_got_Janes_F_15_running_perfe.html#Post3604991


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#3607550 - 07/15/12 10:11 PM Re: F-15 and Windows 7 anyone? [Re: jens198]  
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I posted this in the other thread...

This doesn't work for me - menu screen is still static and after C-A-D & Cancel I get a black screen frown

#3607925 - 07/16/12 03:49 PM Re: F-15 and Windows 7 anyone? [Re: jens198]  
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I didn't use the DirectDraw tool and aside from menu hiccups the game works great.

There are only two major problems:
1) The 2D cockpit is extremely laggy (albeit "flyable")
2) Not a graphics or stability problem, but I've been trying to disable my joystick's built-in throttle without having to cut the wires to the throttle or otherwise disassemble my joystick, but seeing as I never use the throttle if I can avoid it, I may just go ahead and cut these wires.

Oh, and I've found out that full pitch back + full roll to side + full rudder to same side + full AB does funny things.

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#3615329 - 07/28/12 10:50 AM Re: F-15 and Windows 7 anyone? [Re: jens198]  
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Hi all.

Few days back gone crazy and installing all possible old dos/win sims, like EF2000, Strike Eagle 3, etc.
In other words, I'm back ! biggrin

So, guesses, huh, yesterday tried Jane's F15 and %@%!#&, first, of course no go.
But, eventually came to the point running it perfect with 3dFX Glide wrapper on Xp and Win7.
Now, it wouldn't be interesting if I did it like was described here... nooo, just couldn't get that lucky.
Was trying to run it on dual system machine, XPsp3 and Win7sp1.

I have to remind you, that below fixes worked for me, my machine, my configuration, so, no guaranties that it will must work for everybody else, different setup, but still you'll get one more thing to try before letting it all go biggrin

You'll need:
nGlide 0.99
Video driver (can be current, better older?, but win-xp version, not win7/vista ver! important)

Let's roll:

but first, JOY1_HATUP sticky problem:

My..., I've found this solution in SimHQ Archives !!!
And is applicable for JFA18 too.
(fix works on xp and win7)

NO NEED to delete setting in keys file!!!

You just MUST have ONE POV HAT AVAILABLE TO WINDOWS DIRECTX HAT, it means no programmed stuff on that hat.
Or, it can be SHIFTED, but IT MUST be SEEN BY WINDOWS DIRECTX in clean, default state, as a 4-way HAT1.

Sorry for screaming, but this knowledge was right here under our noses all the time.
and is far more better solution then deleting the setting from keys file smile.


GRAPHICS:
On win7 ...menu glitch, of course, on Xp "dgvoodoo 1.44" wrapper was nogo, too. (haven't tried 1.50 ver, tho.)

XP:
For XP, the fix was easy, installed "nGlide 0.99", and bam!, out of the box, with 1.17 patch, working flawless in glide.
Set your screen resolution in nGlide configurator, first option. Got hires.
Result: gfx is a go on xp. tried refueling, ... piece of cake biggrin

WIN7:
But, solution for Win7sp1 was not so easy.
No go for CTL ALT DEL trick, menu still frozen. Killing explorer task didn't work too, same problem, now in black, smile screen.

Download the XP version of video driver for your video card, you can try current one, your choice, for my ati 12.1 did the trick,
but it must be for Win XP, ... why?
Well, we'll put it on win7 :), that's why.
Some will say "that was stupid" , but I assure you it's not.

Save your THEME before, maybe you'll loose aero/ theme, taskbar will change color, so you'll have backup to revert to later.
I assure you, nothing bad will happen, windows will work more/less normal, and you can get back to normal win7 video driver anytime.

Now, installing different version os driver is a bit tricky but, far more simple then evading sa-10, for instance smile

Run setup, driver will unpack, remember where, NOW CANCEL AFTER setup has unpacked and ran real driver setup,
the rest is done manually.
Note the location of the ".inf" file, you have to see file extension for this, make sure you can.
(folder options > view > uncheck, hide known file ext.)

Go to DEVICE MANAGER > DISPLAY ADAPTER > (right click video card) > UPDATE DRIVER ...
Choose ADVANCED > DON'T SEARCH FOR DRIVER (manually) > ... > HAVE DISK > browse to the unpacked .inf file,
select it and install.
Windows will complain, bla, bla, YES, REBOOT.
Ok, that's it. If resolution changed, fix that so you can work normally.

Now, install nGlide 0.99 if not yet present on system.
> then GoTo try F15.
That should do it.

Important!, Do NOT select compatibility mode, eventually only if you must.
You'll degrade nGlide performance.
For me it works clean, w/out compatibility mode, and is working fine.

I don't take any of credits for this, other then explaining what to do, because it was already done, I was just lucky enough to successfully repeat procedure.

Cheers all, and good luck.


#3631541 - 08/23/12 05:59 PM Re: F-15 and Windows 7 anyone? [Re: jens198]  
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Hi All,

I got JF15 running on Win 7 using the CAD trick. Normally in JF15, Shift+F8 gives you chase plane view, where the camera will rotate same as the plane (as opposed to only F8, where the camera orientation stays fixed). But when I hit Shift+F8, the view only works as long as I hold the Shift key down. As soon as I let go of Shift, the view automatically toggles back to in-cockpit. But F8 without shift works fine. Any ideas why this is happening (I'm using a Vaio laptop, and how to fix this?

Thanks.

#3632421 - 08/25/12 08:56 AM Re: F-15 and Windows 7 anyone? [Re: jens198]  
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Can anyone point me to the keyboard layout/guide for the expert mode? Or tell me how to kill engines?

#3633168 - 08/26/12 09:49 PM Re: F-15 and Windows 7 anyone? [Re: jens198]  
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Could someone point me to a valid site for Direct Draw Compatibility Tool 1.1 everyone I've found is a register first site or it's unavailable.Thanks


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#3633179 - 08/26/12 10:28 PM Re: F-15 and Windows 7 anyone? [Re: jens198]  
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Try Shift L and Shift R toggles left and right engines repectively..

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