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#3592588 - 06/16/12 05:47 AM
Re: June 15th Update
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I'm sort of past being angry now. It's just comedy gold now. I don't have words, in english nor in swedish, to express how much spot on this is. Also, Icarus1 is so correct one can possibly be. Amazing, just amazing, what crap they get away with. Doesn't really help the genre - like the defenders of the universe express - but on the contrary.
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#3592693 - 06/16/12 01:53 PM
Re: June 15th Update
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Yeah, hard to believe that one! There really are some 1st class plonkers on the Banana forum these days. I try to stay away except for update news as the fanboiism prevalent on there often brings up a little bile, very unpleasant! I'll give them their due though, they have the belief and tenacity of a Jehovas witness  
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#3593133 - 06/17/12 11:56 AM
Re: June 15th Update
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OEM screenshots & videos of Eu release..So I fly the original game because I am a off-liner and the game's AI was broken after the last good patch, game version 1.0.13954
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#3593177 - 06/17/12 02:02 PM
Re: June 15th Update
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I don't know about that. I think a few developers are dipping their toes in the WW2 combat flight sim pool right now because of whats going on with Il-2 CLoD. Sure CFS are costly and time consuming to make but it still is a big enough market with a profit to be made by any company with the right vehicle and most importantly at the right time, just like MG did when other juggernaughts in the CFS market were on the ropes. If anything the market for CFS has got tighter in one respect, big mistakes can kill a company. Back in the day you could release a mediocre or substandard CFS and survive, today I don't think thats the case for alot of various reasons. But I don't subscribe to the notion or belief that if Il-2 and MG fails WW2 CFS are dead either. None of us has a crystal ball or are privilaged to sit in on a board meeting at Gajin, 777 Studios, DCS or maybe some unknown company and know what these other developers are up to. If I was them I would sure be paying very close attention to whats happening with Il-2 CloD and MG. If anything I expect the next few years to be very interesting in the WW2 CFS market if Il-2 fails or get's knocked down a few pegs from it's previous King of all WW2 CFS status. Also if MG goes off the rails is it's really anyones fault but their own? They set the bar for themselfs for Il-2 CLoD, not Ubi or the fans. They created the hype and now are okay in letting people lay blame everywhere except where the blame really needs to be placed, right on their own doorstep. Even with the exit of Oleg Maddox they should have known they were going to have to kick it up a few notches and get their A game on, or at the very least made an announcement they were going to have to scale back somethings pre-release. Instead they allowed the speculations and expectations to run wild and really did nothing to reel this pre-release euphoria in until afterwards by saying "We never promised that"  If they want to survive this they really need to pull their heads out of you know where, and if that means working through some of the 100 National Holidays (yes I'm being sarcastic, it's more like 19 or 20) they have to get it done, so be it. I mean it's their livelyhood thats on the line here and yet they are so caviler about it, just about anyone here understands working through a holiday because of an important make or break project, it really confirms my belief they don't have much understanding as to how free market ecomomies work. I really hope MG survives and the Il-2 series continues but they really need to stop the BS and put forth a serious maximum effort right now and not after the holidays, BoM or that MMO.
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#3593183 - 06/17/12 02:15 PM
Re: June 15th Update
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really confirms my belief I neither belief nor disbelief anything on the internet
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#3593188 - 06/17/12 02:28 PM
Re: June 15th Update
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really confirms my belief I neither belief nor disbelief anything on the internet QFT! Its not real you know...
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#3593189 - 06/17/12 02:28 PM
Re: June 15th Update
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It's KRT not Kurt
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Poor choice of words indeed...
....Rarely has a screen name ever been so aptly chosen as Black Six's, as its initials perfectly mirror what he's been - and continues to be - serving us week after week for over a year.
Yes, I did chortle over some comment of "Thanks for that update BS"
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#3593193 - 06/17/12 02:37 PM
Re: June 15th Update
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On a side note I have had the pleasure of playing a certain Beta MMO Flight sim, and all I'll say is 1C better fix some stuff and get their collective arses going, they aren't the only game out there.
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#3593203 - 06/17/12 03:01 PM
Re: June 15th Update
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really confirms my belief I neither belief nor disbelief anything on the internet I'm the same way 
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OEM screenshots & videos of Eu release..So I fly the original game because I am a off-liner and the game's AI was broken after the last good patch, game version 1.0.13954
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#3593280 - 06/17/12 05:42 PM
Re: June 15th Update
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On a side note I have had the pleasure of playing a certain Beta MMO Flight sim, and all I'll say is 1C better fix some stuff and get their collective arses going, they aren't the only game out there.
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#3593291 - 06/17/12 06:03 PM
Re: June 15th Update
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I don't know about that. I think a few developers are dipping their toes in the WW2 combat flight sim pool right now because of whats going on with Il-2 CLoD. Sure CFS are costly and time consuming to make but it still is a big enough market with a profit to be made by any company with the right vehicle and most importantly at the right time, just like MG did when other juggernaughts in the CFS market were on the ropes. If anything the market for CFS has got tighter in one respect, big mistakes can kill a company. Back in the day you could release a mediocre or substandard CFS and survive, today I don't think thats the case for alot of various reasons. But I don't subscribe to the notion or belief that if Il-2 and MG fails WW2 CFS are dead either. None of us has a crystal ball or are privilaged to sit in on a board meeting at Gajin, 777 Studios, DCS or maybe some unknown company and know what these other developers are up to. If I was them I would sure be paying very close attention to whats happening with Il-2 CloD and MG. If anything I expect the next few years to be very interesting in the WW2 CFS market if Il-2 fails or get's knocked down a few pegs from it's previous King of all WW2 CFS status. Also if MG goes off the rails is it's really anyones fault but their own? They set the bar for themselfs for Il-2 CLoD, not Ubi or the fans. They created the hype and now are okay in letting people lay blame everywhere except where the blame really needs to be placed, right on their own doorstep. Even with the exit of Oleg Maddox they should have known they were going to have to kick it up a few notches and get their A game on, or at the very least made an announcement they were going to have to scale back somethings pre-release. Instead they allowed the speculations and expectations to run wild and really did nothing to reel this pre-release euphoria in until afterwards by saying "We never promised that" If they want to survive this they really need to pull their heads out of you know where, and if that means working through some of the 100 National Holidays (yes I'm being sarcastic, it's more like 19 or 20) they have to get it done, so be it. I mean it's their livelyhood thats on the line here and yet they are so caviler about it, just about anyone here understands working through a holiday because of an important make or break project, it really confirms my belief they don't have much understanding as to how free market ecomomies work. I really hope MG survives and the Il-2 series continues but they really need to stop the BS and put forth a serious maximum effort right now and not after the holidays, BoM or that MMO. There is no doubt if COD fails its the developers fault. The investors must see something positive as the cost are thousands a day in wages, and office space, but that could end at any moment if the stability issues aren't fixed. It certainly won't be the investors fault if they pull the plug. As far as Promises go, the developer went out of the way several times to state there were no Promises, but many people were too busy looking at the pretty pictures, to bother reading. The development team actually worked thru a holiday or two on the initial release in the East and West. Whatever happens the causes will be very complex and not as simplistic as some would believe. As far as competition goes, Gaijin's WOP actually came close, but the maps were too small, for anything but furbals. I'm not beta testing WarThunder, but it appears they are spreading everything thin again by doing a number of theaters at once. There is hope, but I'm not holding my breath for that one to provide the complexity I'm looking for. 777 Studio could look into WW2 after they've exhausted their revenue stream with WW1, especially with the introduction of their Channel map. I'm not a big fan of their existing terrain map, but 777 Studios could fill the void in a few years.
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#3593307 - 06/17/12 06:35 PM
Re: June 15th Update
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OK, I'll buy in. It's a slow night These are the devs who brought IL2 to the world, right? When IL2 came out in 2001 it was a stuttery bug ridden mess. Doubt me? Original Combatsim review: http://www.combatsim.com/memb123/htm/2001/12/il2-rev/And quotes: ...This (eyecandy) doesn’t come without a price, however. The very nicely done forests and cities can easily put you into a case of the “stutters” if your setup isn’t configured well, or you’re simply asking too much from your computer.
...Also, distant objects show up on my system as black squares. As I get closer they take shape and that dark contrasting shape disappears, it’s definitely not a game-stopper, but it removes from an otherwise very immersive experience.
...It seems that the early morning or dusk missions with ground fog in the low-lying areas tax my video card, but it’s difficult to say without a frame counter.
...The AI gunners on bombers are also uncannily accurate, and the AI gunners on the Sturmoviks seem to have a much larger field of fire than what the player will have if he or she takes the gunners seat during a mission.
...I feel that even though the campaigns in IL-2 are very well done, though they are probably also the sim’s weakest link.
...Unfortunately, it seems, that Ubisoft didn’t put as much care into creating the IL-2 servers as 1C:Maddox Games put into the multiplayer aspect of IL-2. There have been a lot of user complaints about connection issues while using the Ubi.com service, but a fix is reportedly on the way.And despite all this, the reviewer rates it 'Instant Classic'. Have we become more demanding/spoiled? Did men in black suits wipe our memories? And surprise surprise, these same devs have done the same thing, all over again and released a bug ridden mess, that they are patching to playability. While they are working on the sequel. And the patches will come only slowly, and there will be years between CoD and the sequel, and then years again to further sequels. In case you did get a memory wipe, just to recap, the original IL-2 release came out in 2001, and it was not until two years later that the expansion Forgotten Battles followed. It was another year again until the Aces Expansion Pack and Pacific Fighters, and a full three years after that before 1946 hit the shelves in ‘07. If you can't live with development at this pace, you seriously need to find another game to play... As to believing what you read on the internet... “You Shouldn’t Believe Most of the Quotes You Read On the Internet” -Abraham Lincoln
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