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#3589533 - 06/10/12 07:58 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
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Hi, Hpasp.. I have a question about The Hungary practice.... Is it possible to add 3D AAR for the training mode missiles? I think it could be nice addition, because it is like an mission editor and therefore we could do some tricky stuff there.  How about that?
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#3589703 - 06/11/12 03:43 AM
Re: SAM Simulator
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Hpasp, what ever happened to the simulation of the ZSU-23-4 Shilka? Was your access to documentation denied? ZSU-23-4 is something that does not require extensive infrastructure support, in contrast of what we have now -- Given the amount of soviet equipments available around some hot spots, it would not be impossible for a band of terrorists to get their hand on one, hide it near the runway threshold of some airport, and do something high-profile...Or at least we'd get pounced all over by media, lawyers and intelligence agencies before this, should there be a ZSU-23-4 sim accurate to the switch. So, as Hpasp said, SAM Simulator will not be a terrorist trainer.
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#3589754 - 06/11/12 08:12 AM
Re: SAM Simulator
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i agree with u Really? Is that the real reason? C'mon, SAMsim is a procedure trainer, nobody can expect to control a ZSU only with that.
It would be a interesting addition, rather than Nike-Hercules.
Regards!
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#3589757 - 06/11/12 08:27 AM
Re: SAM Simulator
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aaaaah ! one old post rise up again  guys no terrorrist team used shilka ! because using ilga and stinger is very very easeiest than shilka ! that terrorrist must bee idiot ! if they want use shilka for hit aircraft  that who person said terrorist used shilka for hit civil aircraft !!! please note it in the one post ! if this realy happend done !
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#3589759 - 06/11/12 08:37 AM
Re: SAM Simulator
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Nuked 'em :-) in Prairie Fire.... 13:46 24th of March, 1986.
Operation Prairie Fire
S-200VE Vega-E
00:04:36, Missile launched from launcher-1
Target distance: 85km
Target azimuth: 12°
Target elevation: 2°
Target angular speed: 275m/s (0,9 Mach)
Target altitude: 4,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target before launch
Received signal strength: 39dB
00:04:43, Missile launched from launcher-2
Target distance: 84km
Target azimuth: 12°
Target elevation: 2°
Target angular speed: 277m/s (0,9 Mach)
Target altitude: 4,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target before launch
Received signal strength: 39,2dB
00:04:55, Missile launched from launcher-3
Target distance: 80km
Target azimuth: 12°
Target elevation: 2°
Target angular speed: 221m/s (0,7 Mach)
Target altitude: 3,8km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target before launch
Received signal strength: 39,5dB
00:05:44, Missile exploded
F-14B Tomcat killed by nuclear blast. (distance from epicenter: 429m)
F-14B Tomcat killed by nuclear blast. (distance from epicenter: 2m)
Total, SNR On Air Time: 2min 8sec
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#3589778 - 06/11/12 10:11 AM
Re: SAM Simulator
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Also, Vintorez, thanks a lot for your manual on the SA-2. Just to be clear on the tracking modes in real life, RS is manual tracking by the FCO, AS is manual tracking by the manual trackers, and AS-AP is autotracking, all modes can track with or without a real target on the scope to track, for instance, if I shut down my radar in AS-AP after initiating a lock, then the system would continue to track based off of the computer? No, RS is manual tracking by 3 operators (azimuth, elevation and range), their screens are like FCO's, but only in 5 km mode. AS is autotracking by the system... On SA-3 - the same, but range tracker is the FCO itself, and 2 operators on F1/2. Check here: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3574980/281.html
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#3589865 - 06/11/12 01:51 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
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aaaaah ! one old post rise up again guys no terrorrist team used shilka ! because using ilga and stinger is very very easeiest than shilka ! that terrorrist must bee idiot ! if they want use shilka for hit aircraft that who person said terrorist used shilka for hit civil aircraft !!! please note it in the one post ! if this realy happend done ! I have to agree with this, just imagine how "discreet" the ZSU is and especially when parked in the vicinity of the airport  Handheld missiles are perfect for such a case, somebody can get near the airport, shoot and in the following chaos can get away without any notice.
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#3589887 - 06/11/12 02:32 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
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ofcourse ! In my personal opinion ... I think terrorists team stiil at dangerous situation from nato and usa side.
they must be idiot for using shilka ...shilka is a easy hunt for nato and usa UAV predator But on the other side!! maybe HPasp have a good raason for cancel shilka for sam sim
also we need more axplain about mr.hpasp's reason! good source about attacking shilka to civil aircraft !!!date? year? location? type of hit? and more ![/quote] I have to agree with this, just imagine how "discreet" the ZSU is and especially when parked in the vicinity of the airport Handheld missiles are perfect for such a case, somebody can get near the airport, shoot and in the following chaos can get away without any notice.
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#3589907 - 06/11/12 03:11 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
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There must be some other reason, Hpasp. By the way piston, thanks for the reply  . First off, most governments ( as fas as I am aware ) have no knowledge of SAMSIM. Also, you say a massive infastructure is not needed, but think, you need ammo, detailed manuals for things like maintenace, boresighting procdures, as well as gas, which can actually be tough to get.
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