#3565808 - 05/02/12 12:42 AM
I'm old
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http://i.imgur.com/rT1m0.pngDEVICE=C:\Windows\HIMEM.SYS DOS=HIGH,UMB DEVICE=C:\Windows\EMM386.EXE NOEMS @echo off SET SOUND=C:\PROGRA~1\CREATIVE\CTSND SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 E620 T6 SET PATH=C:\Windows;C:\ LH C:\Windows\COMMAND\MSCDEX.EXE /D:123
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#3565818 - 05/02/12 01:14 AM
Re: I'm old
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Yeah, I saw that earlier. And no, if you think about it, it's not necessarily a troll. Windows XP came out in what, 2002? And it didn't include any way to access the DOS shell without bending over backwards and jumping through a flaming hoop while muttering an incantation in Sanskrit. It's not too hard to believe that kids who are now posting on Reddit have no idea what DOS is.
Also DE, you forgot the most important command (though not necessarily for DOOM):
C:\mouse
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#3565832 - 05/02/12 01:42 AM
Re: I'm old
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Navy, I don't think you meant to say DOS shell, because that in itself was a GUI for DOS. No, I think the way it was architected, DOS shell is correct. And GUI stands for "Graphical" User Interface - which DOS was not. ..I remember playing around with .bat files trying like heck to get EF2000 to run faster....
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#3565848 - 05/02/12 02:22 AM
Re: I'm old
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I meant DOS command line, actually... Brain fart from studying C all day. As I recall, Win 98 was the last (major) release that was actually built on DOS, whereas from XP onward, the only way to get to a command line prompt was via starting in Safe Mode. I remember my grandfather and I spending the better part of a spring break one year trying to get Falcon 3.0 to run from a boot disk, and having to tweak the autoexec.bat down as much as possible.
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#3565850 - 05/02/12 02:26 AM
Re: I'm old
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Gawd.. Although these games were fun, it could be incredibly frustrating to run them. So much trial and error. BTW Piper.. thank for the B-day wishes.
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#3565851 - 05/02/12 02:28 AM
Re: I'm old
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There were no video games prior to Windows, everyone knows that.
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#3565989 - 05/02/12 12:00 PM
Re: I'm old
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Recluse
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In the dawn of Internet gaming I remember being in a squad flying Jane's ATF/NATO Fighters DOS version. We were using a freeware IPX emulator KAHN (an alternative to the much fuller featured KALI) over 28K modems. It required loading a complex network stack and carefully crafting the autoexec.bat and stack loading .bat files to leave enough memory for ATF to run. I think ATF required a huge amount of conventional RAM (over 500K!!!!!!!) so it was always a struggle. Once a satisfactory arrangement was found, it was shared around and revered.
Voice chat??? HAHAHAHAH not even a dream at that point. Text Chat through KAHN shell and the in game interface, squadron meetings via IRC channel.
Sometime later, an Internet friend and I did each buy the same brand of DSVD modems so we COULD actually have voice chat when connected with ATF/NATO DOS. He lived on the West Coast and I on the East Coast, and we also played around with various phone company plans to moderate the Long Distance charges.
I remember dragging my Gateway Tower to a Falcon3 LAN party once as well, scrounging up a network card from work and struggling to load the required driver stack. Finally got connected and ended up frying my modem in the process.
Good Times!! Good Times!!
Then ATF GOLD came out with native TCP/IP connections... Roger Wilco arrived for voice comms and the whole 'game' changed radically.
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#3566059 - 05/02/12 02:16 PM
Re: I'm old
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Oh yeah,
the "fun" of high-loading as much as possible to squeeze every single bit out of the main-memory, because game x needed at least 617k or something. I don`t know, how many boot-disks I had floating around.
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#3566097 - 05/02/12 03:20 PM
Re: I'm old
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I remember trying to get Aces over Europe to run...
Needed a high amount of Main memory, I had so many separate boot disks. Hard to believe it's all in the past. I had the same problem, and that was the first or second game I ever bought for PC/DOS...so AOE was the game that taught me how to juggle memory managers, mouse drivers, and CDROM drivers to get that 614K that AOE need. Even the order of loading the drivers made a difference. What a pain in the A. at one point I called sierra/dynamix for help and they mailed me a boot disk - of course that didn't work either! LOL
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