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#3564829 - 04/30/12 03:56 AM Re: DCS P51D is released! [Re: Sim]  
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I bought it because ED has done nothing but spectacular work, and I wish to support them. My 1 hour of stick time review:

The P-51 is beautiful, both visually and FM wise. That new sound engine is something! The first time I hit F3 it really blew me away!

As far as price, comparing it to some of the add-ins for FSX, this is not unreasonable. Fidelity and controls wise, it certainly is right at the top of the heap as far as systems modeling (would expect nothing else from the producers of A-10). Plus, you can shoot things!

I am still concerned at not having other period content, will pretty much limit combat activities to mud moving, especially tragic for the Mustang . . . no real reason to go up high nor much to do while you are up there.

Just flying around in it is a treat though, I will get my moneys worth out of it just learning the systems and how to fly it well.

But holy cow, the engine sound when you so a flyby is something!

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#3564896 - 04/30/12 08:23 AM Re: DCS P51D is released! [Re: Sim]  
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Good mini review. It sold me. D/Ling now ...

#3564902 - 04/30/12 08:53 AM Re: DCS P51D is released! [Re: Sim]  
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My norton is complaining about the dcs world.exe. Get a ws.reputation.1 alert and norton removes the file. I've tried to read up on it but the criteria for the threat are quite vague. So, does anyone else have this issue? I've thought about waiting a while and checking the file again. Perhaps an increase in user numbers will remove the high risk rating.

-C-

#3564909 - 04/30/12 09:07 AM Re: DCS P51D is released! [Re: Charlie_SB]  
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Originally Posted By: Charlie_SB
So, does anyone else have this issue?


Yes. Not me personally, but EtherealN:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1443594&postcount=16



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#3564917 - 04/30/12 09:21 AM Re: DCS P51D is released! [Re: Sim]  
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Yeah, I can confirm that. I've not talked to Norton about it (odds of prompt reply... bad :P ), but I've satisfied myself that it's just a false positive based on a heuristic. I told Norton to ignore the file and restore it, and then everything went swimmingly and Norton hasn't found anything on the scans it has done after install.

#3565058 - 04/30/12 03:02 PM Re: DCS P51D is released! [Re: Nate]  
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Originally Posted By: Nate

the upcoming modules will upgrade your versions of Warthog and Black shark.

Nate


I have a good hint a what the answer will be BUT, does someone knows if they plan to release the upgrade for BS2 and A-10 before, at the same time, or after the P-51 is released?


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#3565062 - 04/30/12 03:11 PM Re: DCS P51D is released! [Re: Sim]  
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So let me get this straight, It's $39.99 for a complete Download and you don't have to own any DCS title? and if you do own BS, BS2, A-10 or FC2 it installs into one of those?


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#3565097 - 04/30/12 05:23 PM Re: DCS P51D is released! [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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Originally Posted By: KRT_Bong
So let me get this straight, It's $39.99 for a complete Download and you don't have to own any DCS title? and if you do own BS, BS2, A-10 or FC2 it installs into one of those?


Yep...sort of... the download includes the new DCS common flight sim, called "DCS World". The P-51 addon installs as part of that, and the basic "World" sim comes with an SU-25T - nothing else yet. Apparently patches are forthcoming which will incorporate BS2 and A-10C if you have those already, but as of now they are still separate sims.

To back up Ruhroh, the P-51 is a great flyer smile Possibly the best representation of a warbird in a PC sim yet.

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#3565100 - 04/30/12 05:27 PM Re: DCS P51D is released! [Re: Sim]  
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Giving away the flyable SU-25T (the one from FC2) with the base 'DCS World' is actually really generous. The download for P-51 (a torrent file only, I've uploaded about 20GB last night alone - yay, community wink ) contains both the free 'DCS World' beta and the P-51 'module' beta (which asks for a serial number before a flight). Even if you don't have a serial key for the P-51 then you still get to see its missions and an external view of the model, i.e. they've disabled the cockpit but left everything else I think.

#3565140 - 04/30/12 06:34 PM Re: DCS P51D is released! [Re: Sim]  
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DCS World eh? What they should have done from the start!

Is there any plan to have a DCS World that doesn't require buying P-51?

#3565143 - 04/30/12 06:40 PM Re: DCS P51D is released! [Re: Frederf]  
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Originally Posted By: Frederf
DCS World eh? What they should have done from the start!

Is there any plan to have a DCS World that doesn't require buying P-51?


It is already there - download the P-51 torrent - install DCS:-World but not the P-51. You can then fly around in the SU-25T. No purchase necessary.

Nate

#3565144 - 04/30/12 06:44 PM Re: DCS P51D is released! [Re: Nate]  
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Originally Posted By: Nate
Originally Posted By: Frederf
DCS World eh? What they should have done from the start!

Is there any plan to have a DCS World that doesn't require buying P-51?


It is already there - download the P-51 torrent - install DCS:-World but not the P-51. You can then fly around in the SU-25T. No purchase necessary.

Nate


Actually looking today, it seems that you can download without using a torrent smile

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/in...135&lang=en

The P51 module is separate 147MB file.

#3565311 - 05/01/12 01:52 AM Re: DCS P51D is released! [Re: Nate]  
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Originally Posted By: Nate
Originally Posted By: Frederf
DCS World eh? What they should have done from the start!

Is there any plan to have a DCS World that doesn't require buying P-51?


It is already there - download the P-51 torrent - install DCS:-World but not the P-51. You can then fly around in the SU-25T. No purchase necessary.

Nate


Thanks, didn't see it as a separate product so I thought it was upcoming or otherwise. Giving it a go. Curious to see how the World engine differs from the latest A10 or BS2.

#3565349 - 05/01/12 03:25 AM Re: DCS P51D is released! [Re: Sim]  
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Not sure this is right place to ask but is this the only things I have to do to maximize P-51D performance?
I have been challenging against AI over 20 times and I cant beat him yet LOL

Throttle to Gate
Full forward propeller lever -> RPM 3000

Am I missing something?

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#3565568 - 05/01/12 04:29 PM Re: DCS P51D is released! [Re: Sim]  
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You probably have to move the stick a bit and do some of that pilot sh*t too :-)

Sorry, couldn't resist..

-C-

#3565581 - 05/01/12 05:08 PM Re: DCS P51D is released! [Re: Sim]  
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Have you (can you) leaned the mixture for altitude?
Trimmed the aircraft perfectly?
Closed the radiator shutters?
Got out and polished the wings?
Cheers
Keith

#3565601 - 05/01/12 05:41 PM Re: DCS P51D is released! [Re: Charlie_SB]  
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Originally Posted By: Charlie_SB
You probably have to move the stick a bit and do some of that pilot sh*t too :-)

Sorry, couldn't resist..

-C-


What.. is it just me, having hard time beating the AI ...?! wink

Originally Posted By: Keithb77
Have you (can you) leaned the mixture for altitude?
Trimmed the aircraft perfectly?
Closed the radiator shutters?
Got out and polished the wings?
Cheers
Keith


It looks like mixture has 3 stage. cutoff, run, emergency. According to manual, emergency settings is not something to do with the WEP.
I havent used any trimming.. is it required to win dogfight..?

Radiator was set it AUTO, I'll try settings it to closed thankyou smile

#3565624 - 05/01/12 06:05 PM Re: DCS P51D is released! [Re: nadal]  
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It doesn't help that temperature effects are not implemented yet - I assume the AI are running permanent flat out.

It's hard to catch the AI in the training mission and harder to shoot them down if you do get close!

#3565630 - 05/01/12 06:09 PM Re: DCS P51D is released! [Re: Vitesse]  
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Originally Posted By: Vitesse
It doesn't help that temperature effects are not implemented yet - I assume the AI are running permanent flat out.


As is the player - you need to keep every single drop of energy to have a hope of beating him - even then it is partly luck.

Nate

#3565637 - 05/01/12 06:17 PM Re: DCS P51D is released! [Re: Nate]  
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Originally Posted By: Nate
Originally Posted By: Vitesse
It doesn't help that temperature effects are not implemented yet - I assume the AI are running permanent flat out.


As is the player - you need to keep every single drop of energy to have a hope of beating him - even then it is partly luck.

Nate


Is the AI P51 using the same flight model as the player?

Not being overly familiar with DCS air to air combat (but lots in IL2/RoF etc) but is the new P51 module including anything new in terms of AI combat and manoeuvres? Is the aim for the P-51 to have a true prop furball fight or is that something further down the road?

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