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#3554009 - 04/10/12 08:41 PM Re: Friday update April 6 [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
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Originally Posted By: BKHZ_Furbs
Pet theories? Im pretty sure its a fact, why else would they need to rewrite?

Edit, lets say "rushed" coding.


Not even that - much of it was pre-alpha Code.

Pretty disgusting that it was released at all.


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#3554019 - 04/10/12 08:57 PM Re: Friday update April 6 [Re: SlipBall]  
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As an owner of Il-2 CLoD also who can't really enjoy this sim fully due to many of the problems mentioned I have decided that playing alternative products maybe the best anyone can do at this point. I'm sure I don't have to say what product I am playing to get my BoB fix. But I'm sure many of you have a copy lying around somewhere, install it, patch it up and go hunting. Might not be the best solution but it's better then waiting for something that won't get released till the dev's feel it's good and ready.
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#3554031 - 04/10/12 09:18 PM Re: Friday update April 6 [Re: SlipBall]  
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Going on-line can still be fun and a challenge for me, but I just need to join when theres not that many on the server(less stuttering that way). Off-line is a good place to practice things, but it can get boring quickly... by the way I got to get one of these, funny but I bet interesting

Haynes- driveway Bf-109 repair

Manual's

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#3554064 - 04/10/12 10:36 PM Re: Friday update April 6 [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
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Originally Posted By: BKHZ_Furbs
Chivas, why would it take longer than 9 months to sort the AI? it should be ready to go if they have been working on it.


I'm not saying how long its going to take, I'm just saying people will come back to the sim if and when its working. The Dev team have been working steady on the AI and Commands etc for the last year, and should be able to implement and test some fixes after the performance patch is released. I'm also sure they will continue to work on the AI etc depending on the necessity and priority thru the life of the series. The same way the AI in BOB WOV has continued to improve over the last five years.


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#3554071 - 04/10/12 10:46 PM Re: Friday update April 6 [Re: Bard]  
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Originally Posted By: Bard
Originally Posted By: BKHZ_Furbs
Pet theories? Im pretty sure its a fact, why else would they need to rewrite?

Edit, lets say "rushed" coding.


Not even that - much of it was pre-alpha Code.

Pretty disgusting that it was released at all.


It may be disgusting, but it made if possible for the sim to be finished instead of cancelled. There is no way the development would have release COD in the state it was in unless it was absolutely necessary.


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#3554104 - 04/10/12 11:31 PM Re: Friday update April 6 [Re: SlipBall]  
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#3554105 - 04/10/12 11:35 PM Re: Friday update April 6 [Re: SlipBall]  
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Originally Posted By: SlipBall
Going on-line can still be fun and a challenge for me, but I just need to join when theres not that many on the server(less stuttering that way). Off-line is a good place to practice things, but it can get boring quickly... by the way I got to get one of these, funny but I bet interesting

Haynes- driveway Bf-109 repair

Manual's


Wow - there's some really cool manuals in there. I used to love the ol Haynes for my Frogeye Sprite I spent thousand of hours trying to keep going. I don't know what it is but I could stare at manuals like that for hours. smile

#3554109 - 04/10/12 11:43 PM Re: Friday update April 6 [Re: SlipBall]  
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#3554122 - 04/11/12 12:01 AM Re: Friday update April 6 [Re: SlipBall]  
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#3554243 - 04/11/12 07:12 AM Re: Friday update April 6 [Re: Ajay]  
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Originally Posted By: Ajay
Insanity, mixed with bookworm and a touch of nostalgia.


Bit like why i keep going to 1C to check for the patch then smile

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#3554268 - 04/11/12 10:24 AM Re: Friday update April 6 [Re: FearlessFrog]  
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Originally Posted By: FearlessFrog
Originally Posted By: SlipBall
Going on-line can still be fun and a challenge for me, but I just need to join when theres not that many on the server(less stuttering that way). Off-line is a good place to practice things, but it can get boring quickly... by the way I got to get one of these, funny but I bet interesting

Haynes- driveway Bf-109 repair

Manual's


Wow - there's some really cool manuals in there. I used to love the ol Haynes for my Frogeye Sprite I spent thousand of hours trying to keep going. I don't know what it is but I could stare at manuals like that for hours. smile



I've always been the same way, I think its a love of mechanical close tolerances, and restoration, and yes some degree of insanity.


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#3555450 - 04/13/12 05:47 AM Re: Friday update April 6 [Re: SlipBall]  
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Luckily , with only one person working on it with only one battery pack drill and funding well under many millions i accomplished it in just under 7 months.It proved to me that i could indeed polish a turd and make it look excellent, but unfortunately the manifold was a pos even though shiny and a wonder to look at.I had to ditch it in favour of a better designed Edelbrock job, unpolished on the outside.


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#3555464 - 04/13/12 07:12 AM Re: Friday update April 6 [Re: SlipBall]  
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I agree with most posts here and the sad fact is that CLOD was a product released on the good name of IL2, with absolutely outstanding good looks especially in the cockpit. Now this alone was good enough to sell the game in advance. So much in advance that it was never anyway close to completion before release.
She still looks gorgeous, still the most prettiest of them all ( in cockpit) but shes not come anywhere near the age of consent and I have come to the conclusion that if a company is prepared to release a unfinished product ( for high sales ) they surely wont be prepared to work on patches for months and years after release when they receive no income from those patches what so ever..........

Whats the answer? What are we to do? I cant keep my eyes off her even with the knowledge that she`ll crash and burn me every time I reach for the stars in her.

S!

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#3555504 - 04/13/12 10:07 AM Re: Friday update April 6 [Re: SlipBall]  
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The problem for me is that gameplay-wise, and from an offline perspective, CloD is still the same disappointment as on release day, more than a year ago. Not a single one of my major complaints have been fixed so far. Sure, I'm looking forward to the performance patch, but honestly: I don't need one. I can run the game on high settings just fine. So the coming patch won't change a thing about what I really care about: pretending to fly in the Battle of Britain. I have no idea how long it will take the devs to tackle the stuff that's important for me: AI, FMs, radio commands, weather system, improved terrain that actually looks like England (hedges!), ships for the Kanalkampf phase, etc...


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#3555508 - 04/13/12 10:23 AM Re: Friday update April 6 [Re: SlipBall]  
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I dont expect any of the common complaints will ever get fixed ( sure wish I was wrong ) after all its been over a year.
It all leaves a bitter taste in my mouth........What could have been and WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

S!

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