Rgr. Guess a store price of just under 28 quid isn't too bad either.

Just got mine afew nights ago, and it seems really good, especially from someone who only few PC sims. But I can't fly at all with that gamepad. I tried sinking ships with a torpedo and got a message that my torpedo had drowned. I mean who knew ?
I have to try this with a joystick though, can someone recommend a joystick? I only have the Xbox360 so the playstation isn't an option.

does anybody read post, lol... asked and answered a number of times... but anyway...

Saitek AV8R-02 or the Cybord FLY9...and a couple others.

Magnum, I havent even done any of the campaign and have unlocked 7 planes already, did you play on realistic or simplified?

I just did the tutorials on realistic and got a ton of xp

Actually I did read all 8 pages, but those 2 are the only ones mentioned, does anyone know what the others are?

I have the Ace Edge Hori HOTAS flight stick that I bought as a bundle with Ace Combat 6. No longer in production you can find these on ebay.

Hori has a newer version out you can buy for $140 with no game.

someone was selling an Ace Edge in the Buy/sell forum.

Don't they just have a basic cheap joystick that can be used? Talk about a market for an inexpensive joystick !

Just picked this up last night and put several hours into it, completing the tutorial then jumping straight into the Dynamic Campaigns.

I will say that this could be an incredibly fun and detailed console sim, but the mission objectives are so outrageous that it completely turns me off.

For example, dynamic mission to intercept some bombers. Our flight of 4 takes off to intercept no less than 40 bombers, with our mission success objective to destroy at least 8. No problem, that's 2 bombers per plane with my 3 other AI wingmen only the AI seem to not engage. This leaves me with having to down 8 bombers before they reach their target which is about 10 minutes out. This is early in the war too, so I am flying the older axis biplanes. I have run something like this no less than 10 times and have yet to complete this successfully.

This system desperately needs some sort of scaling to fit the objective within the difficuly level and aircraft used.

Heck, I wouldn't mind seeing a revamp of the whole system where the reward is based on targets destroyed with the requirement to land safely to cash in. This would introduce some risk/reward to te mission, vice just blowing up 8 bombers/AAA/Fighters and having the mission complete itself and fade to black.

With it's current structure and frustratingly tough and unrealistic objectives, I'm finding it hard to stick with it.

That was in the dynamic campaign? I haven't flown any like that. The ones I take on are flying a good distance with a couple of dozen other planes to bomb a target or torpedo a ship, then have to try to get home alive. Perfect missions, seem very realistic to me. Proper loadouts and you have to fight off the enemy fighters with your rear gunner all the way there and all the way back.
My main complaint is having to unlock and buy planes. One or the other is bad enough, but having to do both is discouraging. With the little time I'm able to put into this, I don't know when I'll get to freely fly the planes I want to fly.

What country tree is everyone going with?

I'd like to stick to the RAF, but the ME-262 must be unstoppable online.

Still can't find those deadzone settings :p

Finally found the deadzone settings. Click A when you go into the axis setup screen on the particular axis. Flies much much better now, got a few kills, (managed 3 in a row without being shot down, landed back at base) also, knocked down a 190 with a Gladiator

I find with my experience in ww2ol flying as the germans, it is easy to down 109's and 190's since people don't seem to know how to energy fight in BoS (yet)

Great xbox flightsim, but just can't fly it with a gamepad. Was thinking of picking up the Saitek Aviator, but it said there was a problem with the deadzone with it. Would this dead zone adjustment, take care of this and make the Aviator a good buy?

Yes, it works great now. I couldn't play it with the controller either. I think I managed 10 minutes into Birds of Prey before heading out and buying the av8r.

I don't recall a deadzone adjustment in BoP, so maybe that's why I never enjoyed it as much.

The Saitek is wonderful now, I wonder if it's an ubfair advantage? I seem to be doing quite well in the versus modes with it.

Similar to me using a wheel in TDU2 online, I think most people use a gamepad.

Gah, I actually forgot this one came out! Just placed my order for it through Amazon since apparently no Gamespot near me is carrying it It'll probably be getting to my house in week or so, unfortunately.

I also found the deadzone settings something of a quandry. I actually have mine nearly maxed out (full right) to get rid of the massive deadzone. I had thought that full left was to eliminate the deadzone, as it is in most games, seems to be the opposite here.

For the PS3 I have been using the Saitek Cyborg 5, found it for like 40 bucks and with a zip tie on the spring to lessen the stiffness, it has actaully been working fantastic!

I also have this for the Xbox and my aviator should be at the front door today. Looking forward to getting back on the Xbox as the network connectivity seems to be much better, heckuva lot less lag than the PS3.

You probably know by now that none of the German jet or rocket powered planes are available in Versus. They might be useable in coops.

I had no idea.

Great. Then I'll stick to the RAF. I've been doing very well with the Spit 2, can't wait to get back online with it.

Got it on PS3... Is there someone to make a nice little guide about how to remap the buttons? I don't know if it just that my Saitek Aviator 1 (plugged in the second USB) is just not recognized or I did something wrong but I can't remap the keys and axes... Some said the aviator 2 worked but I don't see any aviator 2 choice in the control setup, How did you do it to make it work?

Nice game overall, they learned from sim player's feedback, it's not here yet but there is real improvements over WOP/BOP... Now If I can make my joystick to work, it would be even greater.

Hope they will get it out on PC in the future, with better resolution and AA, this sim-lite will rules! Love all the little details: Bullet trajectory's smoke, nice spring work on the gears, Water reflection shaders, etc...

I don't have either of the two, but have you tried setting the Aviator as controller one, in the "accessories" menu.