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#3519255 - 02/15/12 06:25 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: piston79]  
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Originally Posted By: piston79
Dear Max,
PLEASE, stop posting pictures, stop posting questions in thousands, when you don't understand something, read the manual first!
When you want to post, please use "EDIT" option, and because you are very happy when post pictures from the manuals, PLEASE use SPOILER (the button number 12 from left to right, and upload your pictures betwwen SPOILER marks...)
I am really tired to dig like a chiken in a trashyard to read something usefull, because you are posting thousands of questions and pictures! DAMN! You have all that documents on your native language but instead helping us with our questions, you just posting nonsense!
banghead
If you don't stop WASTING SPACE in the topic I'll ask the Moderator to cut your posts!


Dear Piston79 !
I'm always happy to read your posts, even you reach one high level who, I think, really few have reached as you . thumbsup

I can't understand all meaning of your posts, but I try as I can !

Not only you, have 1/3 response from Hpasp, as I noticed when reading 200 pages of this forum !
may be he haven't enough times to respond all posts, don't push him more, and be patient for response ..... if that it exist !

but don't be so nervous about some who are newbies, and don't understand basically thing, and some times,
boring all reader with .scuse_me .questions !

Dear Max2012 !
I have an advise for you, may be it can help to make your posts more comfortable for us when reading;
just write your post in your local language (I guess Russian),
then use http://translate.google.com/?hl=ru&tab=mT , to translate it in English,
may be we can read them more easily, and understood what you are . cuss2 about !
don't stop posting your Pic's, they are nice to see !
I forget this one too:
PLEASE read more and more times the manuals, and use SPOILER
(the button number 12 from left to right, and upload your pictures between SPOILER marks...) . wave2
you have 10% of post in this forum, (203 pages x 10 posts = 2.030 posts) so you have more than 230 posts ~ 10%,
and 80% of them are just incomprehensible, ... please make us happy to read your posts more easily and more effective ..!


Dear Hpasp !
As you can see, you are exciting your community, don't let them as, they can BURN lawncareby20mm
if you have no answer for any type of questions, just respond by "no way this time!", or any else reply,
in fact that make us happy to know that you have read our post, and it's readable, and you haven't jump it ! cowboy

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#3519279 - 02/15/12 06:50 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: MK_PL]  
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Click to reveal..

my crude translation;
"P-35 radar screen under noise jamming by squadron of B-52 and passive noise by F-4's (numerous)"

#3519292 - 02/15/12 07:00 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: montieris]  
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You're right, they mention a group (cell?) of B-52s and passive jamming by F-4 planes. As far as I remember, F-4s dropped chaff, so part of the noise visible in the photo is probably caused by chaff.

Originally Posted By: montieris
my crude translation;
"P-35 radar screen under noise jamming by squadron of B-52 and passive noise by F-4's (numerous)"

#3519343 - 02/15/12 07:52 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: wasfa]  
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Dear Hpasp !
As you can see, you are exciting your community, don't let them as, they can BURN.
if you have no answer for any type of questions, just respond by "no way this time!", or any else reply,
in fact that make us happy to know that you have read our post, and it's readable, and you haven't jump it !


Dear All,

Rest assured, that I read all posts.
cowboy

If it contains a valid bug, than I fix it in the next version.

If I know the easy answer of a question by heart, I give it but I really encourage everybody to answer it instead of waiting for me.
(sharing your knowledge gives me good feeling thumbsup )

Sometimes it takes time to find the answer in manuals or block diagrams. It can take several days.

Sometimes, I ask exFCO's about a question. It could take weeks to get an answer.

Sometimes there is no answer at all. (Nobody remembers about that, nothing in the manuals.) nope


Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3519348 - 02/15/12 07:59 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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I can put the actual documentation that I downloaded it to 800 MB.

All I have right now that I downloaded.

All in DJVU format!

#3519349 - 02/15/12 08:00 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Vulture]  
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I have a question about digital jamming pods. Hsasp, does that mean that we will have to face other jamming methods in Libya?

There will be noise jamming, applied in a more state-of-the-art way.
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Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3519440 - 02/15/12 10:29 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: max2012]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
Dear Hpasp !
As you can see, you are exciting your community, don't let them as, they can BURN.
if you have no answer for any type of questions, just respond by "no way this time!", or any else reply,
in fact that make us happy to know that you have read our post, and it's readable, and you haven't jump it !


Dear All,

Rest assured, that I read all posts.
cowboy

If it contains a valid bug, than I fix it in the next version.

If I know the easy answer of a question by heart, I give it but I really encourage everybody to answer it instead of waiting for me.
(sharing your knowledge gives me good feeling thumbsup )

Sometimes it takes time to find the answer in manuals or block diagrams. It can take several days.

Sometimes, I ask exFCO's about a question. It could take weeks to get an answer.

Sometimes there is no answer at all. (Nobody remembers about that, nothing in the manuals.) nope


there's no better response expected !
I always thank's who response me! . wave

Originally Posted By: max2012

I can put the actual documentation that I downloaded it to 800 MB.

All I have right now that I downloaded.

All in DJVU format!



very kind of you if you share your documentations, Zip it all, and use http://www.mediafire.com
it is really flexible to share with it !
Go ! don't wait ! thumbsup

#3519442 - 02/15/12 10:33 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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#3519445 - 02/15/12 10:37 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: wasfa]  
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Originally Posted By: wasfa
...but don't be so nervous about some who are newbies, and don't understand basically thing, and some times,
boring all reader with


I don't have problems with newbies, I am happy if I can help... No need to dig in, but if you DO spend time to read it back, you will see, that Max ask same things all the time, and just didn't listen what was told! Man, I send him all what I've read here, in .doc file from page one of this topic, even from the older one - "Volkhov - qualification day", even gave my mail and ask him to write me there or on PM, on RUSSIAN(!) if he has questions, I answered on what I can in a good will, and then like he just forgot everything... I just didn't understand... And his manner with all those hayku posts...
My english is bad, I knew it, but at least I think you got the basics... I just loose my nerves and I am sorry...

Originally Posted By: wasfa
I can't understand all meaning of your posts, but I try as I can !

So do I! wink
That's why I had feeling, that I post #%&*$# and that's why Hpasp didn't responded me at 1/3 wink... Because I am not a professional and have not engineering education and don't understand much of all the data from all those books in I-net, when I see something, which is against my logic in SAM SIM's behaviour, I am asking here, and when didn't answered, i am starting to wonder is there a real bug, or I am just an idiot... So that's why I pushed Hpasp recently, and I apologized...

#3519487 - 02/15/12 11:50 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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Clearly, I realized that I was probably the worst max2012 here understand SAM.

Another thing all over England. writing is not one there who would in Russian, so my conclusion is not a single Russian is not here but me.

Russian Forum is, there is no one but me.

And then there's complaints that the pictures you can not put you as you put in, I did not say that it is impossible!

Video sent to the Volkhov and still not correct the error.

You said main error is not the battery, so tell me what kind of battery you choose, I do not know!

Why can not I use the method of I-87.

He also needed for Goal interference.

The method of UPR can not be against interference, only the T / T can.

More specifically I-87 T / T, but not the UPR!

#3519505 - 02/16/12 12:48 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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I give a link to documentation C-75 which was with me.

S-75 Documentation all

#3519662 - 02/16/12 10:11 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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At last, I got Habu with Dvina. UPR does the job too:

Click to reveal..
13:45 19th of December, 1972.
SR-71 bomb damage assessment flight number one.

SA-75M Dvina


01:15, V-750VMVK 11DMVK Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 78km
Target azimuth: 181°
Target elevation: 17°
Target altitude: 24,2km
SNR mode: 110km
Missile guidance method: UPR (Half Lead)


01:22, V-750VMVK 11DMVK Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 72km
Target azimuth: 179°
Target elevation: 19°
Target altitude: 23,5km
SNR mode: 110km
Missile guidance method: UPR (Half Lead)


01:28, V-750VMVK 11DMVK Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 72km
Target azimuth: 178°
Target elevation: 20°
Target altitude: 25,2km
SNR mode: 110km
Missile guidance method: UPR (Half Lead)


02:12, Missile exploded on Channel-3
SR-71 Habu killed by SAM. (miss distance: 100m)

Total, SNR On Air Time: 4min 11sec

#3519675 - 02/16/12 11:01 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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At last, I got Habu with Dvina. UPR does the job too:

Hahaaa! Kill that witch! Congratulation Comrade!

So, let me share a joke with you, like a price for your achievement (medals are from High command - Hpasp wink ):

"Moskow. Meeting of Politbureau... Delegates are waitting to enter the hall... General secretary Brezhnyev appears and everybody saluted him. He smiled and ask:
- Comrades, who wants bubble gum "Wrigley's Spearmint"?
- Comrade Brezhnyev, but from where get those?
- Oh, yesterday PVO shot down a spy plane.." wink

Anyway, only in Eastern Europe can understand the irony... wink Still, I would change gums for tanks... wink


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#3519740 - 02/16/12 02:27 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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I can not in any way to bring down the Volkhov and Dvina able to Vintorez

The question is how then?

#3519799 - 02/16/12 04:34 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: max2012]  
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Originally Posted By: max2012


Not at all!
I'm Using it ! it's free !
(use free formula) !

Thank's for sharing !

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#3519844 - 02/16/12 05:26 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: max2012]  
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Originally Posted By: max2012

I can not in any way to bring down the Volkhov and Dvina able to Vintorez

The question is how then?



Just do it as it is done here (for Volkhov):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGa6i-DudIQ

#3519877 - 02/16/12 05:44 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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Volkhov I know is the video.

Where video Dvina under SR-71

#3519893 - 02/16/12 05:53 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: piston79]  
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Originally Posted By: piston79
Originally Posted By: wasfa
I can't understand all meaning of your posts, but I try as I can !

So do I! wink
That's why I had feeling, that I post cuss2 and that's why Hpasp didn't ...........................


If I can't understand all meaning of your posts, may be because you have reached an high level who most don't reached yet ... !

and I feel this is the case of Hpasp too:

Originally Posted By: Hpasp
................
Sometimes it takes time to find the answer in manuals or block diagrams. It can take several days.

Sometimes, I ask exFCO's about a question. It could take weeks to get an answer.

Sometimes there is no answer at all. (Nobody remembers about that, nothing in the manuals.) nope


Dear piston79: you are the "Test Pilot" of the SAM SIM ! ... winner !




Originally Posted By: piston79
....
My english is bad, I knew it, but at least I think you got the basics... I just loose ...


I would like if every post (I read) is written from the same manner ....
Just try to have a good times, and enjoy what you do with this SAM Simulator ! thumbsup (as we do!)

#3519912 - 02/16/12 06:06 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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I'm just starting to learn this simulator, can you give me any tips? Should I read anything else other than the manual?

And another question:
Do you have a list of what all the switches that are not covered in the manual do? Or are they simply not relevant within the scope of the simulator?

#3519986 - 02/16/12 06:59 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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Hi and welcome CooLDoG!

Manual is enough for easy understanding "what does each switch mean" and how to shoot down "non-resisting target" in live practice range smile
Historic scenarious represents what kind of operation difficulities sam operators had to face.

For advanced sam operation - questions are answered here in forum, and in future could be updated in manual including all non documented switch definition.

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