I'm hoping they will add some decent features with FC3, the just having the triggers of A-10C in FC is fine by me. However, I am somewhat worried that without some improvements to the avionics of FC3 aircraft that the sims won't mesh well together.

Take the radios for example. Radio frequencies matter in DCS. You gotta tune to the correct frequencies to contact ATC, JTAC, to hear (or not hear) AI flights, and so on. FC2 had what is considered to be "easy radios" where everything is tuned to the correct frequency automatically. So with AI flight to communicate with the player there is bound to be a constant and unavoidable noise of AI chatter. Granted it all depends on the number of AI in a scenario, but having no options to switch frequencies would really suck.

I'm just glad they're supporting it.

There was enough of a difference between FC 1.1 and FC2 that it warranted me paying for it.

There is already enough of an indication that there is significant differences to warrant me paying for FC3.

You ain't lying,I have had it for about a year now and am still loving it.I'm really hoping for mfd extracting and maybe few new aircraft in fc3

I'd love to see if they update the area around Sochi with some of the stuff for the Olympics in a couple of years... I was just thinking about this the other day. But I'm with PFunk about any update being a good update. Especially from DCS.

There will be new features, at least where the ME is concerned as you have guessed. Possibility for anything more isn't being discussed publicly for now since nothing has been nailed down (that I know of, I don't make the decisions).

I wouldn't worry too much about the avionics. The FC series serves the crowd that isn't into exacting operation, but there's nothing wrong with meshing DCS and FC. Basically, if you consider facing off with a fighter, an FC fighter and a DCS fighter would appear to fight about the same; in fact a DCS fighter will likely have advantages in avionics.

But in the end, it all depends on how you want to fly, and so you'd join an appropriate server or crowd I imagine

The Dynamic Campaign is the Holy Grail to so many sim fans. Even those who dismiss the concept as a simple illusion fooling ignorant players who don't understand the tricks under the hood must appreciate the swell of pent up desire for a F4-style DC. I've recently been playing on the excellent 74th VFS server, in both the BS and A-10. Tyger's mission is the best MP mission I've ever played in DCS. But after 3 flights I knew most of the spawn points. (yes there is a huge amount of random AI placement but the linear flow of the mission is impossible to avoid) It becomes almost comical when we on comms act surprised at those vehicles that just popped up east of "Flick". I ask you, Is this more real than the aggregations and deaggregations found in the F4 Campaigns??? I LOVE A-10. I just hate building sandboxes for it. And without a dynamic campaign where players can chose their packages, targets and loadouts and return day after day to see how the war progresses, Naveda is just another sandbox.

Yeah, a dynamic campaign would give thse titles everlasting appeal. I mean just look at Falcon 4.0.

I play 100% online now so a dynamic campaign doesn't interest me unless it has online functionality. Besides in my experience a well designed mission beats a DC generated mission almost any day. But to each their own I do know many play solo offline so the desire for a DC generator is big.

I only fly online also, but with F4/BMS DC even if you fly sp it feels like you are flying online. Flying the same missions is boring and it sucks. How fun is it knowing where everything all the time, basically whats going to happen. FC3 needs to have the UI that BMS has, meaning you can change your waypoints, change your weapons and set up flights. If you merge BMS with DCS then we would have a very good flight sim....having the best of both worlds.

Any idea when the list of features/changes/enhancements FC3 will have is going to be announced?

BS2's "well, it's here, check the readme" method was, shall we say, LESS than ideal.



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No. Other than pretty certainly ME features found in the A-10C/BS2 will be transfering over (and more, I'm certain, as well as MP compatibility, and compatibility with CA and Nevada) I don't think the list will be released for a while still. It may not be finalized or, to avoid problems with features that were desired being pulled (happens every time, don't sweat it ) there's an aversion towards releasing details until development is reasonably far along, as decided by whoever decides these things.

I would guess a new F-15C 3D model would not be a bad bet, but that's about all I could guess from publicly available material.

Hopefully it gets released this year, so it can breathe some life back into FC.

I suspect that almost everything that is part of A-10C/BS2 that isn't directly related to the specific aircraft will be implemented into FC3. The resource management stuff they hinted at in the announcement could be a nice touch. Not sure how many are aware of it over here, but they put a little file within the mission that appears to keep track of airbase resources. I'm curious if the A-10A will get any added benefit aside from the new 3d exterior model. Perhaps it will field the new CBU 87/97, but can't change the weapons settings. Honestly, the one thing they can add that will make me incredibly excited about the sim would be extra flyable aircraft. There are plenty of single seaters out there that could make for a great addition to the sim. Otherwise if its the same old aircraft lineup of the previous iterations, well, its gonna be a little long in the tooth.

Part of me is okay with the same lineup. It's like putting on an old pair of boots that have just recently been resoled. It's still your old pair of boots, but they're way more comfortable.

I agree there, but at the same time, I'd LOVE to see expanded A2G capability for the Russian fast movers.

The ones modeled in FC2 simply do not have such features. Maybe if ED decided to model newer aircraft, then who knows.

Agreed. Nothing broke my heart worse than the first day I bought LOMAC and realized they took everything that was fun about Flanker 2.5 out.

However, that said, the Russian a2G is much better now than it used to be. You can hit a building.

And they took away our Kh-41 from the Su-33. It was unrealistic, but damnit I had alot of fun flying missions with it.

I could read all the pages of this post but since most of the stuff in middle seems to be about anything but FC3....... Anybody have any news if all the flight models get an update. Love the su25 and su25T, the rest.....eh....ya.

I thought there were some tweaks made in FC2. The A-10 certainly felt a bit different from FC1, but I never did a real test to see how.
If you're talking Su-25-style AFMs, I think it safe to say that's not happening. My guess is FC3 will just be the planes from FC2 brought into BS2/A-10C's terrain and GUI with various updates of a more minor nature.



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