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#3997844 - 08/19/14 10:36 AM Re: SABOW M60 gunnery tutorial & another horid install guide [Re: FlashBurn]  
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Probably the gun was damaged. Press Ctrl+I to hear damage reports from the crew.

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#3997992 - 08/19/14 04:20 PM Re: SABOW M60 gunnery tutorial & another horid install guide [Re: FlashBurn]  
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If gun is damaged, is it possible to repair it?

If one of my crew is dead,
can I replace him like in steel fury?

#3998013 - 08/19/14 05:23 PM Re: SABOW M60 gunnery tutorial & another horid install guide [Re: FlashBurn]  
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Weapons and other heavy damage are repaired between battles in the operative phase.

Yes. Lean away from all sights, and press the 6th button to the left on the bottom panel. Crew selection popup appears, select the checkbox there, and then a crew member. Now just wait for the switch. It's better to not touch any buttons, rotating your head is OK.

#3998785 - 08/21/14 10:55 AM Re: SABOW M60 gunnery tutorial & another horid install guide [Re: FlashBurn]  
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Thanks Krabb for all the replies.
I really appreciate it very much.


Is it possible to hit target when moving?
I find it really hard.
Can you give me some hints?

#3999723 - 08/23/14 07:40 AM Re: SABOW M60 gunnery tutorial & another horid install guide [Re: FlashBurn]  
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From FM 17-12 (1964):

Quote:
Upon the command of execution the gunner applies the initial lead, using a standard lead element or a lead element based upon the experience of the crew. Lead is expressed in mils and is based upon the type of ammunition to be fired. The initial leads shown in this paragraph are those leads required by the ammunition being fired to hit a target moving perpendicular to the firing tank at a speed of 10 MPH. These initial leads should be used by tank crews until they have sufficient experience to dictate a change.

Code:
Ammunition          Initial
                     Lead
HEP-T...............7.5 mils
HE-T, WP, AP-T......5 mils
APDS-T, HEAT-T......2.5 mils


See my Quick Start on what are mils: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3560927/Range_determination_using_the_.html#Post3560927.

#3999773 - 08/23/14 10:41 AM Re: SABOW M60 gunnery tutorial & another horid install guide [Re: FlashBurn]  
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Thanks Krabb.
It seems rather complex, it will take a while to learn.
And that is for hitting moving target.

How about if my tank is moving?
Is it possible to hit target while my tank is moving?

I see the enemy tank moves and shoots at the same time,
however, I do not think I can do it.
Is there a trick to it?

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#3999791 - 08/23/14 11:40 AM Re: SABOW M60 gunnery tutorial & another horid install guide [Re: FlashBurn]  
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The principle is the same, look at relative speeds of your tank and of the target. You may wish to read the FM I referenced earlier: http://everyspec.com/ARMY/FM-Field-Manual/FM_17-12_13831/, and a newer one (1977): http://steelbeasts.com/Downloads/p13_sectionid/250/p13_fileid/1810, http://steelbeasts.com/Downloads/p13_sectionid/250/p13_fileid/1813. The second is more cartoonish, and maybe is easier to understand, but it lacks the M60 supplement (or I couldn't find it on the Internet).

Soviet tanks have gun stabilizers, but M60 have not (M60A1 got this system in 1972, but it was still worse than Soviet; only M60A3 finally received a good gun stabilizer).

#4000138 - 08/24/14 07:23 AM Re: SABOW M60 gunnery tutorial & another horid install guide [Re: FlashBurn]  
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thanks Krabb for the explanation and the links.

so is it easier to shoot from moving t-62 than m60?

#4000238 - 08/24/14 02:40 PM Re: SABOW M60 gunnery tutorial & another horid install guide [Re: FlashBurn]  
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Yes, but the T-62's cons is lack of a range finder. It only has a stadiametric range scale.

#4000984 - 08/26/14 08:00 AM Re: SABOW M60 gunnery tutorial & another horid install guide [Re: FlashBurn]  
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thanks Krabb.
so each tank has its advantages and disadvantages.

#4001823 - 08/28/14 06:44 AM Re: SABOW M60 gunnery tutorial & another horid install guide [Re: FlashBurn]  
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Hi Krabb,

those steelbeasts.com links do not work.
do you have other links?

#4003194 - 08/31/14 12:01 PM Re: SABOW M60 gunnery tutorial & another horid install guide [Re: FlashBurn]  
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Sorry for long reply. Hmm, not sure what is wrong, for me these links do work. Anyway, I can upload the FM, if you still need it.

#4003196 - 08/31/14 12:24 PM Re: SABOW M60 gunnery tutorial & another horid install guide [Re: FlashBurn]  
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They are working for me ok.


Q: What did socialist countries use before candles?
A: Electricity
#4003603 - 09/01/14 01:10 PM Re: SABOW M60 gunnery tutorial & another horid install guide [Re: FlashBurn]  
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I am very grateful if you could upload the FM somewhere else.
I have just tried the links again today, and they still do not work.

#4003654 - 09/01/14 04:57 PM Re: SABOW M60 gunnery tutorial & another horid install guide [Re: FlashBurn]  
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#4003958 - 09/02/14 01:21 PM Re: SABOW M60 gunnery tutorial & another horid install guide [Re: FlashBurn]  
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Thanks Krabb,
I can download it now. biggrin

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