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#349861 - 06/26/03 07:44 PM May be of interest to some...:)  
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#349862 - 06/26/03 10:08 PM Re: May be of interest to some...:)  
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I think that's one of the signs of the anti-Christ or the Apocalypse or something right??



Such talent going to further development of Ultima?

Bummer..

Anyway..time to go find some LOMAC screens to pull me out of this depression ;\)

BeachAV8R

PS - I flew over you today CJ (PAX)..at about 20 thousand feet on the way into Baltimore....good God..what are you guys mixing in the air up that way..you could have gotten out of the airplane and walked on the haze layer..hehe..



#349863 - 06/26/03 10:53 PM Re: May be of interest to some...:)  

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I hate to say waisted talent, but if that's what Andy wants to do then good for him. I hope he comes back over from the dark side some day. ;\)

#349864 - 06/26/03 11:11 PM Re: May be of interest to some...:)  
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Thanks for the info CJ.

Make sure you post when you get that offer you can't refuse to make us another excellent flight sim. \:D

I am still working on raising that $5 million so I can hire you and make the best flight sim ever (AKA playing the lotto every change I get :p )

I hope someday the likes of you and Andy come back to flight simming. I think the only chance though is to find alternative ways of making them and publishing them without the big name publisher.


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#349865 - 06/26/03 11:24 PM Re: May be of interest to some...:)  
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glad to see you're still around CJ \:\)


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#349866 - 06/27/03 12:25 AM Re: May be of interest to some...:)  
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You guys are totally missing the obvious.

TSH/whoever may now finally have someone to work with at EA. Someone that "gets it".

-CJ

#349867 - 06/27/03 12:31 AM Re: May be of interest to some...:)  
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Quote:
Originally posted by BeerDog:
Make sure you post when you get that offer you can't refuse to make us another excellent flight sim.
While I'll never say never, that is pretty unlikely with each passing day. I'm thinking longer term these days, and it looks like I'll soon be changing employers (but not jobs) to one that has a lot more job security.

I recently passed on what certainly seemed like a pretty sweet gaming gig...everything I would have wanted two years ago. It wasn't a flight sim (but was a sim), and I would have pretty much had a blank check. In the end, I decided I didn't want to move again, didn't want to put my family through that again chasing a dream. Plus the hours totally suck. Really.

-CJ

#349868 - 06/27/03 01:58 AM Re: May be of interest to some...:)  
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hey CJ shoot me an email at mopheadslc@excite.com when you have time please, thanks


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#349869 - 06/27/03 02:55 AM Re: May be of interest to some...:)  

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Heres the plan, have the guy ask the main boss (EA CEO type dude) for the source code, if he says no, then they battle it out with baseball bats. Sound like a good plan eh? ;\)

#349870 - 06/27/03 03:25 AM Re: May be of interest to some...:)  
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Quote:
Originally posted by CJ Martin:
You guys are totally missing the obvious.

TSH/whoever may now finally have someone to work with at EA. Someone that "gets it".

-CJ
DOH!!!!!!! Didn't even cross my mind. Good tinkin!


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#349871 - 06/27/03 03:28 AM Re: May be of interest to some...:)  
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Quote:
Originally posted by CJ Martin:
You guys are totally missing the obvious.

TSH/whoever may now finally have someone to work with at EA. Someone that "gets it".

-CJ
Hmmm. ***the gears are turning***
I didn't think of that. \:\)
But I think bush has now thought of it:
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hey CJ shoot me an email at mopheadslc@excite.com when you have time please, thanks
:)


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#349872 - 06/27/03 03:48 AM Re: May be of interest to some...:)  
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Good to see you here CJ! Unfortunately I would put good money on the fact that anything that might help the TSh boys out is long gone and those who might know don't work there anymore. Damn shame really. If we are REALLY lucky than its locked away in some secret archive somewhere and Andy maybe has a shot at it.

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#349873 - 06/27/03 04:35 AM Re: May be of interest to some...:)  
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*pounds head on table*

There goes our chances of getting another really realistic sim.

#349874 - 06/27/03 11:51 AM Re: May be of interest to some...:)  
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Originally posted by Hornit:
Good to see you here CJ! Unfortunately I would put good money on the fact that anything that might help the TSh boys out is long gone and those who might know don't work there anymore. Damn shame really. If we are REALLY lucky than its locked away in some secret archive somewhere and Andy maybe has a shot at it.
Hornit
I hear what you are saying Hornit, but I'm hopeful with Andy back in a senior role we at least have someone to talk to. The code is at EAHQ in Redwood Shores, all bundled up and documented (poor Elf got stuck with that task, but that means it was done right). I'm also still in touch with most of the old gang from Baltimore.

The next few weeks may be interesting. \:\)

-CJ

#349875 - 06/27/03 04:20 PM Re: May be of interest to some...:)  
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hmmmmm, very interesting!!! \:\) Your the first one who has said ANYTHING about where it is at all! That alone has my hopes up already!!

Hornit

#349876 - 06/27/03 06:02 PM Re: May be of interest to some...:)  
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Hey CJ, I got a point blank question for you because you are a straight shooter. IF this were to work out, would you be willing to consult with TSH, almost as a leadership role without doing the work, if they allow the source code out?

Not trying to step on anyones toe's (Doc and Bush you guys have done a fantastic job! But this would be a hell of an opportunity). I don't think Elf could do anything becuase of his current work commitments, but with your contacts, CJ, you could point us right to where we need to go for each thing. You wouldn't have to do any of the actual work ;\) but could get those who know what to do, in the right place with the right instruction. Make those F4UT (bless them for what they have done for Falcon) look like a cub scout meeting \:D Just kidding F4UT, you know I love you guys :p

Anyways, down and dirty question, I respect if you would rather not answer or can't do it.

Thanks.


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#349877 - 06/27/03 06:36 PM Re: May be of interest to some...:)  
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i don't think i have ever been so immersed in a game as i have with jane's f/a-18. this sim is a masterpiece, plain and simple. i wish the best of luck to all involved in this project, and heck yes i would pay $$$ for an updated re-release, or even downloadable updates/mods. i do agree with some others who've expressed a willingness to pay $$$ even to just get version which stable with current computers.


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#349878 - 06/27/03 08:52 PM Re: May be of interest to some...:)  
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Quote:
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Hey CJ, I got a point blank question for you because you are a straight shooter. IF this were to work out, would you be willing to consult with TSH, almost as a leadership role without doing the work, if they allow the source code out?
That might be a problem for me given my current job and clearences. I don't have access to the huge updated Jane's library I once had...all I have are the volumes I was given when the Baltimore office closed. I do get Aviation Week (which I can write off on my taxes, lol) but that rarely has enough detail for serious sim work. From what I have at work I know my Jane's stuff is seriously out of date...but I can't use my "For Official Use Only" documentation as game reference material.

The Super Hornet can do a lot of very cool stuff these days, and much more is about to hit the fleet. It would be very, very tempting for me to include stuff like Link-16 but I'd probably get myself into trouble since I don't have the time or energy to find open source references.

I'm also looking at a promotion of sorts in the next couple of months and I don't want to screw that up.

So about all I can really do is offer general help...I am pretty sure the original design document is part of what Elf packed up with the source code. I can help with that, as there are things in the DD that aren't in the game and vice versa...the last few months of development was nuts as Elf can attest to. \:D

Besides, lets see if getting the code is even possible before we start dreaming too big. I'll try to contact Andy, not sure what his schedule is like these days so I won't be pestering him too hard.

I'll keep you guys posted.

-CJ

#349879 - 06/27/03 09:28 PM Re: May be of interest to some...:)  
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CJ,

I totaly see where you are coming from but I have an observation here. The gameplay in F-18 is already very good and still holds its own. I dont think we need to have anything we dont already have other than the ability to:

1. Tweak FM's and add individual ones for new aircraft/objects

2. Get a high res ground mapping radar ala F-15

3. Ability to add/update maps and cultural features

4. Easily add fully functional 3D models and cockpits(plus improve existing ones)

If we could do that alone it would be a huge improvement and give really nice legs to this sim.

All these things are what TSH is all about and they are hamstrung without the code. We dont need to make a new sim, just enhance whats already here!

Hornit

#349880 - 06/27/03 11:01 PM Re: May be of interest to some...:)  

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Good point, That one slipped by me. thanks \:\)

Quote:
Originally posted by CJ Martin:
You guys are totally missing the obvious.

TSH/whoever may now finally have someone to work with at EA. Someone that "gets it".

-CJ

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