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#348767 - 03/17/05 02:46 AM Re: FAQ for graphics issues - last update 1/30/05  
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So Im saying that enabling 8xS aa and 16x af made the slow down go away for me.
Wow.

Can someone else give this a shot?

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#348768 - 03/23/05 02:55 PM Re: FAQ for graphics issues - last update 1/30/05  
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#348769 - 03/23/05 05:52 PM Re: FAQ for graphics issues - last update 1/30/05  
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No-go for me. Am running an ATI AIW 9700 Pro. I don't recall nVidia users having any graphical issues....

#348770 - 03/23/05 06:52 PM Re: FAQ for graphics issues - last update 1/30/05  
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No Go here. Dopped the FPS about 20 and screwed up the text. :rolleyes: Last night thought I did some major testing of all graphic options and should post results for people on my FAQ site some time today. \:\)


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#348771 - 03/23/05 08:12 PM Re: FAQ for graphics issues - last update 1/30/05  
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There is no such thing as 8xS antialiasing on an ATI card; it is a proprietary method of nVidia's.

I am asking for someone else with a 6800GT to see if 8xS AA eliminates the Air-to-Air slowdown. If it does, this would mean that it would be possible to run JF-18 on a piece of the latest and greatest hardware without reducing the image quality.

#348772 - 03/24/05 11:52 PM Re: FAQ for graphics issues - last update 1/30/05  
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What are your thoughts regarding Tatsu's idea in his post below (from the thread at http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=32;t=008921 ):
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For those that really like to try mess around with something and have a ATI card there's this..

http://www.nonatainment.de/portal/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabindex=7&tabid=19

Apparently you can make your ATI card go into super sample mode... that might fix the Air to Air slow down when using FSAA since it would be using SSAA. Use at your own risk!!! I don't have the heart to try it......yet.


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#348773 - 03/25/05 12:24 AM Re: FAQ for graphics issues - last update 1/30/05  
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I'll check it fer ya tonight Joe ;\)

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There is no such thing as 8xS antialiasing on an ATI card; it is a proprietary method of nVidia's.

I am asking for someone else with a 6800GT to see if 8xS AA eliminates the Air-to-Air slowdown. If it does, this would mean that it would be possible to run JF-18 on a piece of the latest and greatest hardware without reducing the image quality.


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#348774 - 03/25/05 02:04 AM Re: FAQ for graphics issues - last update 1/30/05  
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OK Joe, just tried AA set to 8 and AF set to 16 no go here VERY stuttery. Put it back to application controlled and smooth as silk. \:\)


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#348775 - 03/25/05 07:09 PM Re: FAQ for graphics issues - last update 1/30/05  
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CHANGEING TO NEW VERSION OF DIRECTX WITH ATI INSTRUCTIONS;

When installing a new version of DirectX from your current version when running a ATI Radeon 9550 video card with Radlinker, you MUST do the following to keep your Air to Air fix and water grid fix;
1. Un-Install Radlinker.
2. Un-Install all graphic card drivers and control panels.
3. Re-Start
4. Install new version of DirectX ##.
5. Re-Start
6. Install graphic card drivers and control panel.
7. Re-Start
8. Install Radlinker and creat radlink to F-18E.
9. Re-Start
10. Set all graphic settings to personal preference.
11. Play Jane's F/A-18E!!


***These instructions have been tested and found true using the ATI RADEON 9550 256MB DDR graphics card. Use of these instructions for your own video card are your sole responsibility.***


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#348776 - 04/10/05 04:05 PM Re: FAQ for graphics issues - last update 1/30/05  
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#348777 - 04/10/05 07:23 PM Re: FAQ for graphics issues - last update 1/30/05  
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#348778 - 04/10/05 08:18 PM Re: FAQ for graphics issues - last update 1/30/05  
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Excellent! Stick other threads too so Recluse won't be grumpy old man anymore.

#348779 - 04/14/05 01:42 AM Re: FAQ for graphics issues - last update 1/30/05  
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#348780 - 04/25/05 09:04 PM Re: FAQ for graphics issues - last update 1/30/05  

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This is CVW-11 Ears (can't seem to change my displayed name due to some time thing in my preferences \:\( )

Anyways, wanted to leave a quick post just to maybe help a few people out who are having on going video problems with Jane's F/A-18 and Windows XP Service Pack 2.

I am using a nVidia GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8x, the drivers are 45.23. In the nVidia media center I have "Image Settings" set to "Quality", "AntiAliasing Settings" set to "Off", and "Anisotropic Filtering" set to "Off". In game I have everything maxed out, all boxes are checked including that water one and the low level noise one.

Everything is workin fine for me know except for the "Meatball"... it won't pop up?. A few days ago I turned on "Read Synchronization" for my AGP Card Settings in my bios. I'll let you know if turning it off changes anything...

Well I hope this helps somebody or sheads some light on other problems. I'm a computer engineer major and from what I can tell so far is that like most of you already know, its software not hardware that is the issue. Take care gentlemen!

Semper Fi!

P.S. If anybody knows how to increase the frame rate in Jane's F/A-18 or brighten the "Meatball" I would greatly appreciate it ;\)

#348781 - 04/25/05 09:29 PM Re: FAQ for graphics issues - last update 1/30/05  

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CVW-11 Ears here.

Fixed the "Meatball" problem... Was a little premature in my posts but went through quite a few previous post when I came across one that read... "I change the compatibility mode from Win 98 to Win 2000." Everything seems to work great now including the "Meatball." ;\)

#348782 - 05/24/05 11:12 AM Re: FAQ for graphics issues - last update 1/30/05  

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http://kotinetti.suomi.net/esko.pohjoisaho/RadLinker0908.zip

Dear Sirs this link doesen't work...can anyone indicate
e where find the Readlink version 0908???

Best...

Gioc

#348783 - 05/26/05 03:46 PM Re: FAQ for graphics issues - last update 1/30/05  
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Please, use the link in the top post. I keep that up to date and accurate, but cannot vouch for anything in the rest of the thread.
here

#348784 - 06/15/05 05:21 AM Re: FAQ for graphics issues - last update 1/30/05  
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Is there even a version of Direct X 8 that works on XP? All the ones listed on the Direct X Downloads site are for pre-XP Windows.


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#348785 - 06/15/05 06:00 AM Re: FAQ for graphics issues - last update 1/30/05  
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People on the net are saying you can't revert back. Any ideas?


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#348786 - 06/15/05 07:11 PM Re: FAQ for graphics issues - last update 1/30/05  
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I beleive XP actually installs with DX8. It definitely works, no doubt about that. The reason DX8 for XP is rare for download is probably because everyone is just hosting the latest version.

Reverting back is not really an option. There is a program called DX Buster, but people have reported big problems using it to remove DX9. The only surefire way to remove a DX version is to reinstall Windows and install a lower numbered version. This revert you to the version that Windows shipped with, and you can never go lower than that.

Playing JF-18 with DirectX 9 is quite simple. YEs, you will miss some visual quality, but I think it is worth it to avoid the massive hassles of outdated DirectX and video driver versions.

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