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#3463794 - 11/28/11 08:30 PM Multi-Monitor Support  
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Anyone playing this with 3 monitors? Any screen shots of your rig with DCS running? What is needed to connect the three monitors and have the game see them(Triple head to go, special video card(s), etc.)? About to upgrade just want to make sure I get the right stuff...

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#3463925 - 11/28/11 11:27 PM Re: Multi-Monitor Support [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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#3463969 - 11/29/11 12:25 AM Re: Multi-Monitor Support [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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It depends on what your budget is.

The simplest and probably cheapest option is to get one ATI 6950 2GB. With one card you've got enough output to plug in 3 monitors for Eyefinity (ATI's equivalent of the Nvidia surround seen above). You can plug in 2xDVI and one miniDP.
You WILL need an active miniDP adaptor - this is very important as Eyefinity will not work without it. The miniDP adaptor is usually around $40-50. Be aware that you get one that is Eyefinity certified and is active. There are a lot of dodgy ones and you can get miniDP adaptors that are passive. Don't have to know the difference, just make sure it's active.

If you want to go Nvidia for three monitor surround, you need two video cards in SLI or one GTX590.

If you have an older GPU you can go the TripleHead2Go route but if you're buying new hardware then just choose either of the above options and save your money.

#3464146 - 11/29/11 07:25 AM Re: Multi-Monitor Support [Re: WynnTTr]  
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Wow, thanks. Now that's whats up! Looks real nice. Can you post a pic of your connectors and how you have them plugged into your rig? I'm thinking 3 monitors will have 3 individual plug, how are they to plug into one or even two outputs? Any links to gear required to do this would be helpful too. BTW, how is your framerate with your config?

Nice Martini too... smile

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#3464601 - 11/29/11 10:18 PM Re: Multi-Monitor Support [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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Its just 3 dvi connectors,2 go to 1 card and one to the other card..

The frame rate is ok in A10, have to run about medium-ish settings for 5760x 1080 res.

My pc is i7970 @ 3.8, 12 gigs ram and 2 gtx470 cards



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#3465190 - 11/30/11 07:57 PM Re: Multi-Monitor Support [Re: mac495]  
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Originally Posted By: mac495
Its just 3 dvi connectors,2 go to 1 card and one to the other card..

The frame rate is ok in A10, have to run about medium-ish settings for 5760x 1080 res.

My pc is i7970 @ 3.8, 12 gigs ram and 2 gtx470 cards



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I have almost the same setup and would just advise, that linking three monitors and upping the resolution does require a bit of horsepower from your CPU. It took me the better part of a weekend working with surround in the Nvidia settings, to get a suitable resolution that is both readable for the instruments and allows smooth playability. Once it's set though, it is fantastic to play in.

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#3478946 - 12/22/11 04:44 AM Re: Multi-Monitor Support [Re: strykerpsg]  
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Ok, down to the wire now. Which one of these should I get? The later ones show better cpu speeds and can take faster memory but the i7 970 shows better bus ratio. Any help would be appreciated:

Intel i7 CPU Comparison

BTW, the number of pipes and threads are insane with the i7 970. It also has larger memory bandwidth and 3 mem channels versus 2 on the others. One would think that it would be much, much faster. Perhaps with the Geforce GTX590 series you mentioned your rigs would use the extra bandwidth? I'm now nervous because you guys indicated that you had to really tweak things with that particular pentium to get DCS going.

#3479190 - 12/22/11 04:22 PM Re: Multi-Monitor Support [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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If your budgeting around those CPU's, go for the I5 2500k Sandybridge. The main difference between that chip and the I7 2600k is that the latter has hyperthreading and an extra 2Mb cache so unless you are also into image/video editing/Folding then the additional threads would never/barely get used anyway. They also support much higher memory speeds than the 970.

Because of that, the I5 2500k can often get the same benchmarks/framerates in games, if budget comes into it then I'd go down that route and put the extra $100 into the graphics card or extra RAM.

When we're talking about the difference of 1 or 2 fps when running at 60-100fps in games especially when paired with top-end cards, I'd personally not entertain that as 'valuable' when there is a difference of a few $100. The I5 2500k and I7 2600K are easily overclocked too, with both of them hitting 4.3Ghz - 4.8GHz on air with one click of a button within the software apps that ship with supporting motherboards.


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#3479225 - 12/22/11 05:30 PM Re: Multi-Monitor Support [Re: Paradaz]  
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Originally Posted By: Paradaz
If your budgeting around those CPU's, go for the I5 2500k Sandybridge. The main difference between that chip and the I7 2600k is that the latter has hyperthreading and an extra 2Mb cache so unless you are also into image/video editing/Folding then the additional threads would never/barely get used anyway. They also support much higher memory speeds than the 970.

Because of that, the I5 2500k can often get the same benchmarks/framerates in games, if budget comes into it then I'd go down that route and put the extra $100 into the graphics card or extra RAM.

When we're talking about the difference of 1 or 2 fps when running at 60-100fps in games especially when paired with top-end cards, I'd personally not entertain that as 'valuable' when there is a difference of a few $100. The I5 2500k and I7 2600K are easily overclocked too, with both of them hitting 4.3Ghz - 4.8GHz on air with one click of a button within the software apps that ship with supporting motherboards.


Seconded. All there is to be said about it, really.

#3479456 - 12/22/11 11:00 PM Re: Multi-Monitor Support [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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If you're buying new and fresh definitely what Paradaz said. if you're only looking to upgrade from an existing i7 it's not worth it going to 1155 cpu's. The 1366 i7's are also extremely overclockable but does require a bit more effort than an i5. Mind you though the i5's are ridiculously easy to oc to 4Ghz+. Whereas the 1366 i7's are merely easy.

I've got my i7 920 oc'ed to 4ghz with an aftermarket cpu cooler, which means I can wait until the next generation chips come out. If you can get your existing i7 to 4Ghz then it's not worth the money upgrading to an i5, it's more a lateral shift than a big jump in performance.

If you're coming from even older tech and looking to buy a new system, go with the i5's.

#3479602 - 12/23/11 02:59 AM Re: Multi-Monitor Support [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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Thanks guys, I hadn't even considered th i5. But that sounds like it makes total sense. I actually am going from a single core with hyper threading technology. Got burnt on that concept when I got it thinking that developers would go that route.
So, we are talking major boost even with an i5.

Here's that comparison again with the i5 included:

Intel Chip Comparison

#3479607 - 12/23/11 03:18 AM Re: Multi-Monitor Support [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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How about those three monitor setups where they are side-by-side vertical? I think I'd like this setup better...

three monitors vertical


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#3479614 - 12/23/11 03:34 AM Re: Multi-Monitor Support [Re: Wrecking Crew]  
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lol WC. Not sure how you gonna get her to approve it. I guess the newer monitors have an option to flip the view like that?

What size monitors you guys recommending for the three screen configs?

#3479663 - 12/23/11 05:52 AM Re: Multi-Monitor Support [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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3 x 30" in vertical smile

But another want is to have a monitor for Teamspeak, the manual, etc... I have a single 30" now. Also have a 22" I'm not using but would like to have that be an extra display. Tomorrow I'm tearing down my computer and blowing out all the dust from the past year, maybe I'll get the 22" added in when I put it all back together.

My one 30" monitor puts out some heat so I've had a fan on it that was a small AC plug in. Found these USB fans work pretty well and will go with more of them - the AC fan was too loud so I'm using two of these now -


The fans help keep the Track IR cool, too, from the heat that comes from the monitor.

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#3480603 - 12/24/11 03:15 PM Re: Multi-Monitor Support [Re: Wrecking Crew]  
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Ok, now on the video card. The GTX590 or Radeon HD 6990? I noticed that the 6990 only has one monitor port. How can you do surround gaming with that card? Also, you will get a kick out of this video discussing the two:

Furher Speaks About the Cards:

Germany's Recommendation(Link)

#3480665 - 12/24/11 06:07 PM Re: Multi-Monitor Support [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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Originally Posted By: TheSilkMan
I noticed that the 6990 only has one monitor port. How can you do surround gaming with that card?


One DVI, 4 mini-DP connectors:




If all displays in the setup were to be DVI-only, one would need an adapter for each additional display:


#3481332 - 12/26/11 04:47 AM Re: Multi-Monitor Support [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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Do not get either card.

OK, a qualification is in order here. If you are playing other games then a 6990 would be the card to go for if you can justify the cost.

A10 will not utilize the two gpu's in the 6990 so it will in fact perform worse than a single 6970. I run a 6970 at ~ 6000x1080 as well as a 4th touchscreen at 1920x1080.

You can see a pretty #%&*$# video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4ecRV89rY0 I get a constant 30fps as I have it capped at 30fps.

All four monitors off a single card.

If I was you and you were going to spend that money I would buy the just released 7970 with 3gb vram, this comes in handy with eyefinty and extreme resolutions. It seems to have a healthy improvement over the 6970 and will be cheaper than the two you listed.

EDIT. deleted the part where I said 590 might need 2 cards for surround, it doesnt by the look of it.

For triple screens I really think ati is the way to go right now.

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#3490749 - 01/09/12 05:54 PM Re: Multi-Monitor Support [Re: JAMF]  
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Originally Posted By: JAMF
Originally Posted By: TheSilkMan
I noticed that the 6990 only has one monitor port. How can you do surround gaming with that card?


One DVI, 4 mini-DP connectors:


If all displays in the setup were to be DVI-only, one would need an adapter for each additional display.



Yes and I would argue that if you are buying new monitors for the setup, get ones that have displayport. I think it will be cheaper considering active Displayport to DVI adapters go for like $50 a piece, and considering you need at least 2 of them for a three monitor setup you can spend those $100 on monitors that have DP already.

Btw most Dell Monitors have Displayport on them, so no need for adapters if you go down that route, and the Ultrasharp ones that are around the 23-24" range are actually pretty cheap and very high quality IPS-panel displays, especially within the price range of about $200.

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Yes and I would argue that if you are buying new monitors for the setup, get ones that have displayport. I think it will be cheaper considering active Displayport to DVI adapters go for like $50 a piece...


Just need to correct you on this point. Its no longer necessary to use an active DP-to-DVI/HDMI, for resolutions up to and including 1920x1200. Those passive adapters cost less than 20$. Here is an AMD approved list, but includes active adapters.

But for anyone looking at a new display, is well advised to check the screen they want has at minimum DP and DVI. smile

#3490993 - 01/09/12 09:45 PM Re: Multi-Monitor Support [Re: JAMF]  
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Originally Posted By: JAMF
Originally Posted By: RaXha
Yes and I would argue that if you are buying new monitors for the setup, get ones that have displayport. I think it will be cheaper considering active Displayport to DVI adapters go for like $50 a piece...


Just need to correct you on this point. Its no longer necessary to use an active DP-to-DVI/HDMI, for resolutions up to and including 1920x1200. Those passive adapters cost less than 20$. Here is an AMD approved list, but includes active adapters.

But for anyone looking at a new display, is well advised to check the screen they want has at minimum DP and DVI. smile


Are you certain about the above info? I could not get two HD6970's to run three monitors with a non-active adapter. Getting an active adapter from Amazon (about $30 as I recall) fixed everything. All three of my monitors are 1920X1200. This is on a computer delivered in early December with 11.X drivers.

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