Tanks:
T-55, T-62, TO-55
M60A1, Chiftain Mk5, Olifant Mk1

APCs:
Ratel 20, Ratel Cmd, BTR-60PB, M113A1

IFVs:
BMP-1, Ratel 90, BRDM-2

FSV and artillery:
ZU-23-2 on GAZ-66
ZU-23-2
BO-11
BO-10
SPG-9
M40
82 mm Mortar 2B14
81 mm Mortar Vector M3
DShK on tripod
82 mm Mortar mod 38
76 mm ZIS-3 gun

ATGMs:
Milan
9K14M






Trucks:
GAZ-66

The game is good. Although there are some bugs it is well playable. I have been playing with M60-1 since weekend I can say I have lots of fun. I can easily suggest if you are a sim fun.

Can Milan and Malyutka ATGMs fire at player and AI tanks (any triggers in mission editor)? AFAIK both tanks don't have smoke grenades as countermeasure against ATGM. Both tanks are pretty much defenceless against ATGMs so it would be easily a tank massacre like during Yom Kippur war trough massive ATGM fire!

I concur, it´s good fun! Battles are very satisfying, and I have no doubt that the bugs will be squashed.

After playing few battles I can say that this title is promising, but not at the level of Achtung Panzer Operation Star (just a feeling). However, that may change after the patch and I won't judge anything too hard until then. First I was a bit lost (even I have played APOS). The manual doesn't not explain very well how the tanks operate. After learning a bit and reading some informative comments and tips here (thanks Spearfish) many things are clearer. The game is getting better and better.

I'd also like to leave some feedback here about things that could use some improvements. First, I noticed some pathfinding issues with tanks, especially with ditches - they try to drive over them and get stuck in there. I suggest that these ditches are marked for AI as "do not drive through these" - they are tank traps. This might "get fixed" in the patch though (as said, the current version may not be what it should have been).

Secondly, I would like to see some changes to the visibility / unit icon system for this sim. Currently the player can see all the friendly unit icons and all enemy contacts in realtime on 2D and 3D map - like in the APOS. It's a bit weird when you can see the exact location of an enemy tank because some of your friendlies do and you don't. I suggest that the player can only see unit icons of those enemies that his crew can see like in the Steel Fury, if I remember correctly. For friendly forces I suggest that unit icons should only be shown as squad markers - even though this is also a bit unrealistic.

The previous changes to visibility / unit icon system may affect the tactical gameplay on the 2D map. In reality there were radios, phones and visual signs (flares, flags, hands) that could be used to share information about enemy positions with a certain delay and inaccuracy. Something like this would be needed in the game. Maybe just present a delay and inaccuracy for enemy contacts / unit icons? Or just mark a small area on the tactical map where the enemy was last seen? Or maybe just show the contact / movement vectors? The delay and accuracy of contacts could change depending on if the radio of player's tank is intact or not, etc... These are just general ideas. I hope you know what I mean.

Thirdly, infantry seem a bit too brave. I mean that they keep standing up and peeking from their trenches even if artillery or tank is firing at them. This can be seen in APOS too and leads to unnecessary casualties. I suggest them to lay down or stay longer in the cover and make quicker peeks. I would also like to see infantry automatically changing position relative to the threat and fast, if they are caught out of cover (in case there is better cover nearby). Not easy things to make, I understand.

@lavish

my thoughts exactly! I agree with everything you say, especially the real-time update on enemy positions. Makes spotting the enemy way too easy. I have noticed that sometimes on the big map (f10) you will find information on the enemy in the form of a yellow arrow, a time stamp and a symbol for infantry or armored unit. This means units were last seen there and then, before the observing unit lost contact. I find that to be a nice alternative symbol too for representing the intel in a new, less accurate way (next to your suggestions).

I have witnessed in a quick battle that the russian crew does talk btw (was that mentioned before?), and that you get information on the enemy´s whereabouts, grid location, and direction of attack - 10 minutes before the enemy even reaches your position. So the written and spoken radio messages do exist already, which I find important.

ramas

Try introduce radio jamming!

Direct control of the driver does not mean its independence moves. This is done _specifically_ to tanks not turned by side.
Do you want to travel far and thoughtfully - welcome to the tactical map. In this case, the AI drivers will maneuver depending on the type of movement.

Separately, about the ditches in Iran - made _specifically_ to tanks getting stuck in them, as was the case in reality. Major losses not from enemy fire, but because of the jam. It also depends on the weather, rain is very easy to get stuck.

A few photos from this places and time to make it clear what is meant:

Second part:







We tried to make about the same.

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@Andrey

HAHAHKEKEKEK!!! How on earth did some of those happen?

Well, I do not argue about tanks getting stuck IF they try to go over ditches. The problem is about A.I. driving into ditches if I order them to move to the other side (without movement modifiers). I think that A.I. should always use fords for crossing. However, I just tried the movement modifier "move by using roads" and it seems that now A.I. uses fordings correctly (even without roads) - everything ok. The "side-effect" is that they use roads during their movement even if I don't want to, but that's not a big issue.

So for the AI and they are not marked as impassable area, otherwise how to make it get stuck there?
If you do not want to get stuck driving on the roads

Here the dual question, if AI is to maneuver, they will claim that it substitutes the side-armor. Now, in contrast to the SF user have a choice of what to do. Perhaps not the most comfortable, but it is.


Well, some changes in this aspect (from APOS tactics) will be in the next patch.

Nice pics, lol, I wish I could find an abandoned T-62 in the woods behind my house!

Andrey, is there a way of enabelling a joystick for aiming and driving at all?

Cheers!