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#3441422 - 12/08/04 07:29 PM Nostalgia Sims  
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There are has been a lot of chat lately on these boards reference peoples favourite old sims etc. It got me thinking quite a bit. You see over the years I have had most Flight sims. Most I have kept. I have even just built a retro pc just to get some of them working.

My all time favourite was a Digital Integration sim called " F16 Combat Pilot" on the amiga, and later on PC. This had a real dynamic campaign but no external views of your aircraft. By god it was good.

Now I have just got another of my favourites up and running, TORNADO with Desert Storm addon. Great. \:\) \:\) Here is a pic of my Flight Sim (combat) collection. Just a drop in the ocean of all my titles.



Full collection includes :

FALCON 4
TORNADO
F16 COMBAT PILOT (NOT IN PIC)
F16 FIGHTING FALCON
F14 FLEET DEFENDER (NOT IN PIC)
MIG ALLEY
LONGBOW 2
APACHE LONGBOW
APACHE HAVOC
COMMANCHE HOKUM
FLYING CORP GOLD
US NAVY FIGHTERS GOLD
PACIFIC AIR WAR
EUROPEAN AIR WAR
B17
B17 2
JANES F15 (NOT IN PIC)
BATTLE OF BRITAIN (ROWANS) (NOT IN PIC)
JANES FA/18
SUPER HORNET
EF 2000
EF 2000 TACTCOM
HIND
F16 AGRESSOR
FIGHTER SQN
TOTAL AIR WAR
GUNSHIP
GUNSHIP 2000
F22
JOINT STRIKE FIGHTERS (NOT IN PIC)
COMBAT FLIGHT SIM 3
COMBAT FLIGHT SIM 2 PACIFIC
IL2
FORGOTTEN BATTLES
IL2 ACES EXPANSION
COMMANCHE 3
COMMANCHE 4
FLANKER
FLANKER 2
LOCK-ON (NOT IN PIC)
PACIFIC FIGHTERS (NOT IN PIC)
MEGAFORTRESS FLIGHT OF THE OLD DOG.
TYPHOON
STRIKE FIGHTERS P1
WINGS OVER VIETNAM
FLIGHT OF THE INTRUDER

* The old ones not in my picture are in the loft somewhere......diggin em out later.

Anyone else got a collection like this? I have a few amiga and atari sims too.

regards

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#3441423 - 12/09/04 04:18 AM Re: Nostalgia Sims  
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Most of my oldies (not that I had many anyway) I purged a few years ago.

BTW - In your pic, to the right of the CFS-2 box, is that a Falcon 4.0 BOOK ? It kinda looks like a book to me, but I suppose it is the box because the manual wasn't that big? Just wondering...

Cheers

Mr B

#3441424 - 12/09/04 10:05 AM Re: Nostalgia Sims  
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Mr B, That is the manual that came with my Falcon 4. It came with map and keycard and pilot handbook etc. But that is the manual, and the best I have ever seen.

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#3441425 - 12/09/04 10:51 AM Re: Nostalgia Sims  
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Sweet merciful crap ! I had no idea it was that big (my Falcon 4.0 came in a jewel case). No wonder people rave about it.

Here's my current flight sim collection, not a whole lot of nostalgia:
- Falcon 4.0
- Hornet Korea
- Jane's F-15
- CFS-2 (and the Vietnam Air War expansion)
- Flight Simulator 2004
- LOMAC
- Enemy Engaged - Apache Havok
- Gunship!
- European Air War
- Team Apache
Of these, I hardly ever play EAW, Gunship!, Team Apache and EEAH.

Flight sims which I've had over the years but ditched:
- Flight of the Intruder
- Falcon 3.0
- USNF
- USNF '97
- That MiG-29 sim by Novalogic
- Commanche Gold
- Jane's IAF
- Fly!
- Flying Corps Gold

I've gotten rid of about half the sims I've ever owned .

Cheers

Mr B

#3441426 - 12/09/04 01:13 PM Re: Nostalgia Sims  
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I have the binder edition of F4 that was only around for a couple of months at best. Same pages as that manual, but with holes in a binder and tabbed dividers. Map and CD were in a plastic pouch in the back. Probably the definitive manual for a flight sim.

Even Flanker 2, released 6 months later, had a nice big manual that dwarfed LOMAC's, even though LOMAC features 4 complete planes not in Flanker 2!


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#3441427 - 12/10/04 06:40 AM Re: Nostalgia Sims  
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DogZero1

I have a lot of the same ones you have but I was wondering about your take on one that I never picked up. What did you think of F-16 Aggressor? I'm a guy that doesn't have enough time to get into a study sim what with family obligations and such (which is why most are sitting on the shelf gathering dust). How would you rank the graphics and difficulty level? Would it run on XP and does it support direct3D or OpenGL? I've seen conflicting information on this. I know its kind of taboo around here to mention, but I thought Eurofighter Typhoon was actually pretty good in the graphics/flight model department (love the rain on the windshield and the snow). If it had only been a tad more sophisticated and allowed you to create your own missions, start from the hanger, etc.

#3441428 - 12/10/04 07:49 AM Re: Nostalgia Sims  
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Be nice to Mrs Dogzero this weekend. She must be a saint. \:\)


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#3441429 - 12/10/04 11:28 AM Re: Nostalgia Sims  
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here's mine only the post cd-rom sims the ones i have on floppy arnt listed
ADVANCED TACTICAL FIGHTERS
AH64D APACHE
AHX-1
APACHE AIR ASSAULT
APACHE HAVOC
B17 THE MIGHTY EIGHTH
BATTLE OF BRITTAIN
COMANCHE HOKUM
COMANCHE 2
COMANCHE 3
COMANCHE 4
COMBAT FLIGHT SIMULATOR 1
COMBAT FLIGHT SIMULATOR 2
COMBAT FLIGHT SIMULATOR 3
CRIMSON SKIES
EF2000
EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON
EURPOEAN AIR WAR
F16 FIGHTING FALCON
F16 MULTI ROLE FIGHTER
F22 ADF
F22 RED SEA OPS (add-on for f22 adf)
F22 LIGHTNING
F22 LIGHTNING 2
F22 LIGHTNING 3
F22 RAPTOR
F-18 OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM
FA-18 CARRIER STRIKE FIGHTER
FALCON 4
FLANKER 2.5
FLIGHT SIMULATOR 2002
FLIGHT SIMULATOR 2004
GUNSHIP
HIND
IL2 STURMVIC
IL2 FORGOTTEN BATTLES
IL2 FORGOTTEN BATTLE ACES EXPANSION
IL2 FORGOTTEN BATTLE PACIFIC FIGHTERS EXPANSION
JANES F15
JANES F18
JANES ISRAELI AIRFORCE
JANES WW2 FIGHTERS
JANES USAF
JANES ATTACK SQUADRON
JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER
LOCK ON MODERN AIR COMBAT
LONGBOW
LONGBOW 2
MIG 29 FULCRUM
MIG ALLEY
MS FLIGHT SIMULATOR 2002 PRO
NATO FIGHTERS (add-on for advanced tactical fighters)
NAVY STRIKE
PROJECT 1 - STRIKE FIGHTERS
RED BARON
SILENT THUNDER
STRIKE COMMANDER
STRIKE FIGHTERS PROJECT 1
SUPER EF2000
SVGA HARRIER
TFX
TOP GUN
TORNADO
US NAVY FIGHTERS
WEREWOLF 2
WINGS OF HONOUR
WINGS OVER VIETNAM


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#3441430 - 12/10/04 03:12 PM Re: Nostalgia Sims  
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Good crop dogzero

had and played almost all of them

aaahh.........the memories

I go back to Night Flight on the ZX81 (UK machine only) waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back when.....better gfx on a digital clock than then, but awesome at the time

#3441431 - 12/10/04 08:18 PM Re: Nostalgia Sims  
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Cheers, I just bought myself an amiga again, just so I can play some of the old ones. \:D

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#3441432 - 12/10/04 10:31 PM Re: Nostalgia Sims  
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Okay, Here goes nothing:

Commodore 64:

Gunship!
F-19 Stealth Fighter
F-15 Strike Eagle
SubLogic Helicopter

PC:

DI Apache
Jane's Longbow
Jane's Longbow 2
EE: Apache/Havoc
EE: Comanche/Hokum
Gunship!
Xtreme Air Racing
EAW
Falcon 4 (the original w/binder)
Jane's USNF
Jane's ATF
Flying Corp Gold
Jane's USAF
Jane's F-15
Jane's F-18
IL2 (all add-ons)
Mig Alley
Combat Flight Simulator
CFS 2
Flanker 2.5
Total Air War
Microsoft FS 2004
Strike Fighters
Red Baron 3D
Lock On

Flight-Related Fiction:

Crimson Skies
Independence War
Independence War 2
Freespace 2

Looking over my list, I never really realized all the flying goodness I've enjoyed over the last 20 years!

#3441433 - 12/11/04 03:27 AM Re: Nostalgia Sims  
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Quote:
Originally posted by SmartASCII:
DogZero1

I have a lot of the same ones you have but I was wondering about your take on one that I never picked up. What did you think of F-16 Aggressor? I'm a guy that doesn't have enough time to get into a study sim what with family obligations and such (which is why most are sitting on the shelf gathering dust). How would you rank the graphics and difficulty level? Would it run on XP and does it support direct3D or OpenGL? I've seen conflicting information on this. I know its kind of taboo around here to mention, but I thought Eurofighter Typhoon was actually pretty good in the graphics/flight model department (love the rain on the windshield and the snow). If it had only been a tad more sophisticated and allowed you to create your own missions, start from the hanger, etc.
I played it a couple of years ago and thought it was a lot of fun. It held my interest better than Eurofighter Typhoon. The avionics were not realistic at all (in other words very simple and easy)but the graphics were good for the time. The missions were fun and challenging but not overly difficult. I haven't tried it yet on XP, maybe I'll do that this weekend.

#3441434 - 12/11/04 05:47 AM Re: Nostalgia Sims  
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Thanks for the reply mbeaver. Maybe I'll have to pick that one up for the sake of completeness. I'm still waiting for the "ultimate" flight sim (obviously in my humble opinion) ;\) My system's a dog but I try to buy all the flight sims anyway to support the developers and think that one day I might be able to upgrade my system (as in Lock-On). It's strange but the last time I upgraded my system was probably the worst time for flight sims. 3Dfx had recently disappeared off the face of the Earth, windows XP came out and there was a long lapse before the next big flight sim came out. Where did that leave me? Well, I like the relative stability of XP so I don't really want to give that up. Glide doesn't play nice with XP anyway (I now have a GForce card) so that lets out most of the older sims that would play well on my processor (1GHz \:\( )and my system isn't fast enough for the new ones like Lock-On. I exist in sort of a flight sim Twilight Zone with Eurofighter Typhoon, WOV (on low settings), SFP1 (low settings) F/A-18 Precision Strike Fighters (come-on GraphSim, update this beast and I don't mean Iraqi Freedom \:D ), Jetfighter V (avionics suck but the graphics are intriguing), Jane's F/A-18 (didn't grab me, although no offense to the flight sim purists, I can appreciate why you like it so much) and Falcon 4 (its a beauty but there's no way I'm going to be able to devour that elephant anytime soon). I guess I'd have to say that Jane's USAF was the closest anyone came to making a "perfect" sim for my needs. Too bad it was half-baked and abandoned. Slikk has done a great job keeping it alive but that XP problem is way more than just the drop-down menus for me. I don't have the heart to go back to win98SE and I'm too lazy to double boot :rolleyes: so the wait continues. OK, I'm done feeling sorry for myself ;\) Carry On

SmartASCII out

#3441435 - 12/11/04 01:59 PM Re: Nostalgia Sims  
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Smart, F16 agressor is not bad for its type. It is not a hard core sim, but plays nice and smooth on your type of system. The souns and views are good. The weapons are good. Its not a bad sim. I like it. It runs good on XP by the way.

regards

Dogzero1


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#3441436 - 12/11/04 08:16 PM Re: Nostalgia Sims  
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My personal opinion on F16 Agg is I liked it a lot. Great sim, excellent flight model, fun game not too complicated. Dogzero1, you got rid of your Amiga? I still have my original A1000 from 1986! F-16 Combat Pilot is one of the best sims ever! I liked that "in cockpit only" view and the incoming missiles were the fastest. What about the night missions? It was really pitch black at night! Tell me which modern sim models that? What a shame DI went down the tubes \:\(


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#3441437 - 12/12/04 08:03 AM Re: Nostalgia Sims  
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Thanks for the info about Aggressor everybody. That helped clarify a lot of things for me.

ASCII

#3441438 - 12/12/04 10:21 AM Re: Nostalgia Sims  

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Can anyone fill me in about SVGA Harrier and AV-8B Harrier Assault ?

I miss on them completely in the previous decade. I heard Flying Nightmares was suppose to be the modern version but it got canned.

Thanks

#3441439 - 12/14/04 05:39 AM Re: Nostalgia Sims  
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Hi,
Heres my collection. Most all original.





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#3441440 - 12/14/04 05:58 AM Re: Nostalgia Sims  
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Holy Mackeral Pretzel. I'd say that just about covers 'em all. If they ever want to start a flight sim museum, you're the man ;\)
How many years did it take for you to collect all of those?

#3441441 - 12/14/04 06:58 AM Re: Nostalgia Sims  
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Quote:
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Hi,
Heres my collection. Most all original.



clear off the couch, I'm moving in.


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