Honestly, I don't mind getting into a firefight with someone and killed but spawning and immediately getting shot by a sniper from across the map is becoming really annoying. I'm gonna start learning where they all lie out, cos they all lie together in a little man huddle, and hunt them down.

I have to stop playing sometimes because they ruin it for me.

If I ever run for office it will be on a platform of making snipers in multiplayer FPS illegal.

noobz,get skillz and learn to play !

Agreed, but it's not specifically snipers that bother me, but campers in general (who generally tend to be snipers). They don't really accomplish much for their own team, and they just annoy the other team. In the grand scheme of things, a pure sniper isn't going to have much effect on the battle with a few kills, and because nobody is afraid of dieing, they aren't very useful for area denial. About the best they could hope for is to make the enemy waste time and resources to killing them, but knowing that, the best way to defeat them is to just know where they're likely to be and use routes that don't expose you.

The recon class can potentially be very useful though, mostly for the spotting thing (which seems like pretty easy points, provided you don't give away your position all the time by taking potshots at every enemy you see). I wouldn't want to ban the recon class, but I would like to see fewer campers.

So, it's more of a play style thing. Generally it doesn't seem as bad in rush, which is one of the things I like about rush. It's one teams job to camp, and the attacker-defender thing can be pretty cool that way.

one word for you guys, BAZOOKA, thre, no more camping.

Just have a friend spot the sniper with Q and then snipe him in the head. Teamwork always prevails.

Compared to BFBC2, they added a pretty wicked 'scope reflection' effect for spotting snipers. They are significantly easier to find now, plus there are more vehicles to go run them over with

Yup. One game on the River Seine map there was a corner shop where snipers loved to camp. But the scope glint gave them away and I countersniped about half a dozen or so of them before they wised up.

Scope glint is a godsend to deal with snipers, that combined with suppression throwing one's aim off makes moving from cover to cover viable. A few times I've popped out and seen the glint so I go back to cover. Pop out again and fire a few rounds at the glint. Don't score a hit, but it throws the aim off enough that you can run to your next point of cover.

Too bad we don't have smoke grenades though.

There is a grenade launcher 320 smoke upgrade for assault that works well, but it takes the medic pack slot.

I liked to play Recon in BFBC2 because of the mortar fire I could call in on groups of people and vehicles, you could very quickly break up the party.

I'm looking forward to getting my mortar as support.

I think I joined the server last night Mace just as you had enough of your team

I don't think there is an FPS/tactical shooter out there where snipers aren't a problem.

Americas Army was perfect, squads had to fill the proper roles. 1 sniper on appropriate maps only, a couple of riflemen, grenadiers, gunner. Perfection.

IMO, the pc version of this is probably a little ridiculous with the number of players. Seems just right on console, 64 players on these maps is a recipe for a sniper-fest. From the sound of it, people play more by working kills instead of working objectives.
If you aren't playing hardcore, you should be. Don't spend all night with an indicator over your head. With 64 players, someone's going to spot you, even accidentally, making you an easy target even if you play it conservative. Hardcore is a far better experience. If you aren't playing Conquest or Rush, you should be. The squad rush games are also a LOT of fun, probably the best way to play Rush IMO. I pretty much stick to hardcore conquest or rush, barring issues on the hardcore servers.
Use your mobile squad spawn points. Someone needs to be running with that ability. Nice if you have a regular group to play with where you've got people developing each role.

I never had this problem in BC2, you would get a couple but i was in a squad last night and the other 3 were snipers! I refuse to heal or give them ammo. I also taught an idiot a lesson for taking the transport chopper on his own by jumping into the AA gun and shooting him down and then when he bailed out i shot him in his chute. He never said a word. This game is turning me into a grumpy old man

Mace, we need to team up again. I unlocked the Mortars for the support class last night and immediately got to work - aiming for the little red triangles on the overhead map that weren't moving an inch. If someone can spot for me, unleashing the mortars is like dropping nukes.....it almost clears grid squares

Sounds good mate if im on a server when come on send me a message.

I don't think snipers are that big of a deal in BF3. Almost everyone is a Engineer due to the vehicles.

I think the big problem is not enough support guys dropping ammo.

I strongly disagree, the other night me an a couple buddies joined a server (caspian)and every time I died (and my buddies as well)it was to a sniper! the whole opposing side was snipers(killcam) in a 64 player server, they were campin spawns! we quit out! it was retarded.................this kinda crap is what killed BC2 for me

Overexaggerate much?
Snipers aren't a problem for me either. I <3 going up against snipers - they're easy KD fodder.
Most are stationary and/or prone and hence move very slowly. I've lost count of the number I've taken out just by being in the open and moving side to side in full upright position for quicker movement. They can't track for crap so their shots always snap past me while I'm just laying down fire at a target that's slowly moving and highlights by a bright glint I can see all the way across the map. Only takes 2-3 bursts.

That and use a tank whenever possible! I really have fun in this game using tanks, snipers are not an issue once you can pummel them from a distance with the main gun. I love in this game how even tanks rely on teamwork, you have to have a couple of engineers behind the engine deck repairing your tank when you are up against determined RPG opposition otherwise you are dead before you know it.