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I was quoted and I replied.

Ignore me if my post upsets you. Have a nice day

I see, there are quite a few RoF fanbois here in the CoD forum, trying to convert the lost souls to the one and only deity.

Fyi, RoF has 1 (one) relative amall Map! There wont be another one, afaik.

The number of objects and planes possible, in a playable CoD online map, would crash any RoF server instantly.

The price for RoF with 18 planes to reduced prices is higher then the price for CoD with 20 planes and hundreds of ground objects.

CoD will be expanded with new maps and planes, in RoF you only get planes.

I still have to find a RoF game where bombers are not only fighter-fodder.

As this is the CoD forum, please keep the foreign trash out

Well, I have both games.. They each have me coming back for more on a regular basis, that speaks for itself, they both have qualities that I am enjoying.
Why is it though that some people cannot enjoy both? Is that not allowed?
I really wish this childish bashing of other games would stop, its starting to resemble a playground, not a group of adults with the same passion for aviation..

I see what you are writing, but i know different!

I have RoF since it was published, it couldn't compare to 1946 then and the reviews were only positive because the community was very hungry for a new wwi flight-sim!

CoD had already a competitor in its own house and received a, only partly earned, trashing because of that.

CoD might take a bit longer to fix, as it has more contend its understandable, but i am pretty shure the next official patch will bring it to the well deserved top position.

I, for my part, have much fun online with this "broken, unfinished software"! With up to 80 players on a server, btw

Have fun with your wood and canvas toys, but don't try to denigrate CoD.

COD has no competition for the forseeable future. ROF software works very well on its small map with few objects with far less technical variables. I have no idea how well the software would work with all the detail in the COD inviroment. There is more detail in London alone as there is on the whole ROF map.

Unfortunately COD had to be released before it was finished, but will have plenty of time to correct its faults before any competition reaches the market. ROF will definitely have to do something as all they can sell now are aircraft while the new IL-2 series business model will have many theaters to develop. WW1 doesn't have that luxury. In that respect we could see a WW2 sim from them in a few years so they can stay in business. Time will tell how well their game engine can handle the complexity. Although I suppose they could sell other features that could enhance the WW1 ROF experience, like moving weather patterns etc.

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Have fun with your broken unfinished game. To each his own.

Also, I am not denigrating, I'm just not locked into flying a broken unfinished game and pretending it is great, so I don't. I wish CoD was better than it is, but its not, at least yet. So its on the shelf until they fix it. Perhaps the next patch months from now will change that, I hope. We'll see.

Yes you do seem very much at ease that some may enjoy this game

My response to your previous post had nothing to do with converting anyone to RoF. I hardly care whether you fly it or not. It's great that you love CoD and any other flight sim you also enjoy.

My point was that your logic in that previous posting was poor. And also somewhat misinformed (wrt RoF). You didn't bother to answer the questions I asked you, but that's OK.


What does map size have to do with anything? It covers most of the Western Front. How big does it need to be? In the end, we are trying to simulate combat operations for the period being simulated. Flights are rarely over 2 hours and, more typically, around 1 hour. You are going very fast to go 200mph in WW1. Again, how big does the map really need to be?


This obsession with "bigness" and "most"... Almost like it is necessary to compensate for a lack elsewhere? The question isn't who has the biggest, most toys but can you create an immersive, enjoyable simulation of combat operations in the chosen period. RoF has room for improvement, of course, but there are plenty of folks enjoying it both online and offline.


OK. Mortal blow. RoF will not meet the needs of those who expect to be entertained every night for at least a year at something under $60 annually.


Speculation really. It's true until it isn't. I admire CoD if it gives away Battle over Moscow, Battle over Italy and Battle over North Africa. If they can iron out all the current problems, I will certainly be giving it a go!


You have clearly not flown RoF recently. Good luck against the Bristol. And, generally speaking, good luck against any aircraft with gunner positions. You can shoot them down, but you stand a great chance of exiting that fight damaged and/or wounded.


Genuinely pathetic of you. This is not a smack down, it's not a contest where only one flight sim can "win." If you are here because you believe CoD is the "best" available flight sim, I'm happy for you. I don't get the obsession with declaring one best and all others trash.

Here we go.

Just for the record, my dad is much bigger than your dad, plus has more accurate aerodynamic modelling.

The next post that doesn't talk explicitly about the current state of CloD (I heard is was about 1.2Gb?) gets binned. Trooper is exactly right, and people are obviously getting a lot of use out of it still, i.e. whining on forums about how much exactly they don't play it, how often they have to reach into and out of their bin to put it in and out etc.

Fearless you're a real downer......man j/k

The current state of this sim is Texas, just so I don't get binned

Seriously I am able to enjoy this sim much more since the last patch, I've found, and this is only my opinion, that missions that are simple with low aircraft numbers are a blast

I'm really looking forward to the next patch and hope the comms get sorted out, I want to be vectored to the nearest friendly airfield.

Fair enough. I didn't mean to start a holy war . Sorry I posted my thoughts on that in this thread.

As far as the current state?

If someone were to ask me if now was a good time purchase the title, I would still say "no." There's still many things that need work. I want to like this title, but every time I try to play it, it spits me back out bruised and beaten. Once in a while I get a glimmer of what this title can become, such as when I'm diving into a bomber formation over the Channel, but then when it comes time to fly home, the stutters pop back up, the frame rate drops, or the title crashes.

For me, in it's current state, CloD = Frustration > Enjoyment. I want this title to be great, I really do. And I'll continue to check back in with CloD with every official patch, hoping that maybe this is the one.

Now, before I get binned for being a whiner, I'll point out that providing feedback helps someone on the fence of purchase, or re-investing time getting the title working, decide if it's worth it.

You can moan all you like AggressorBLUE, that's not what I meant - I just don't want the thread to turn into some sort of Minesweeper vs Solitaire game comparison - we've done the RoF vs CloD thing to death about 10 times already. It always ends badly as people on both sides care deeply about which is 'best'.

PS Minesweeper sucks.

Agreed. It was released too early and anyone who is willing to shell out the money for an unfinished buggy game....have at it. I believe the thread is about those who are on the fence...ie.. not sure what its like. If you don't want a buggy unfinished game then wait. Its not finished yet and its buggy. If you don't mind the unfinished buggy state and just want to have fun and don't mind the hassle of an unfinished product then you should buy it.

Perhaps it will be finished in the future. I hope so. Thats when it comes off the shelf for me.

If people want the sim to be finished, it would be advisable to support it now. Buying now would give people the opportunity to enjoy many of the good aspects the sim, beta test new features, and enjoy the updates every few months. Waiting to support the sim, could mean the demise of the last developer making decent world war two aircombat sims. What is interesting is most in the community would have gladly paid to beta test the new series if given the opportunity. Unfortunately it wouldn't have been enough to keep the development viable. Hopefully the sim will survive to see the Eastern, Med, and Pacific theaters, maybe eventually a combined ops sim.

Yep!!

Support or suffer the consequences!

If this game is relying on people buying an unfinished product as goodwill to stay alive...it is definitely doomed. Thats the worst buisness plan I've ever heard of. I also doubt this to be true. Regardless, I think they are either commited or not at this point. My guess is they are still committed at this point.

I hope they fix this thing, because I think it would be a great sim if it was finished properly. And no I don't think people should fee obliged to pony up to encourage developers to continue working. It is not unreasonable to expect a finished product for their money, which they would not get if they buy now. If it gets fixed then they will sell more as word will get around that it is a great sim.

Yep.
No matter how much you want the sim world to keep on going and succeed, you can't argue with the above statement.

Well, which is it robtek? You had assured me that CoD would be expanded without the need for ongoing cash flow.

No need to answer, actually. Of course they need the support. What sim maker can build new things for us to enjoy without having the support of the community, particularly in the form of cash? Anyone interested in this genre of gaming should be glad to infuse a little cash to the developers. We only benefit from what they can produce as a result.

I'm considering buying a copy even now for this very purpose. Checked on Amazon. They list it at $49.99. Imagine that! Right in the neighborhood I suggested earlier it probably would be.

Edit: Done. I just contributed to the keep CoD alive and improve it to the point of awesomeness fund. Don't expect to be flying it much near term, but consider it an investment in, hopefully, some future fun.