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#3384228 - 09/07/11 12:24 AM So the 109 sounds good but...............  
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how about the merlins?? (Puter took a #%&*$#, hope to be up and running by the end of the week.)

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#3384508 - 09/07/11 12:23 PM Re: So the 109 sounds good but............... [Re: ishbu]  
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Well it's been said and I agree, the Merlin sounds need some love, close but not great.


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#3384530 - 09/07/11 12:53 PM Re: So the 109 sounds good but............... [Re: ishbu]  
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+1 to what Bong said above.

I'll put up a clip later today of the Merlin sounds (cockpit, external, and flyby).

IMHO the internal cockpit Merlin sounds are good. The external Merlin start up is really good. External and flyby Merlin sounds are very disappointing.


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#3384541 - 09/07/11 01:02 PM Re: So the 109 sounds good but............... [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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Originally Posted By: KRT_Bong
Well it's been said and I agree, the Merlin sounds need some love, close but not great.


Agree with this.

But at least we can see what is possible from the 109 which is just incredible!

Don't forget this is only a Beta, maybe there will be tweaks in the final release.


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#3384551 - 09/07/11 01:07 PM Re: So the 109 sounds good but............... [Re: ZG26_Emil]  
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Agree. The 109 sounds are very encouraging -- they really show what the game engine can accomplish. Likewise the Jafa sound mod. Buried deep inside Cliffs of Dover is a snarling Merlin sighing to get out! smile

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#3384554 - 09/07/11 01:12 PM Re: So the 109 sounds good but............... [Re: ishbu]  
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Cheshire....Ok stockport
I did do some fly by tests with the Spit and it's weird. Sometimes you can hear the Merlin sounds better (maybe the angle?) and other times it seems over taken by a IL2esq drone as the aircraft flys by.


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#3384846 - 09/07/11 06:52 PM Re: So the 109 sounds good but............... [Re: ishbu]  
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I usually get up about 2500ft and go flyby view and fly it like an r/c plane making passes rolls and such and I agree it's inconsistent but you also don't generally have that view IRL and unless you're at a display and you have the ground reflection you really don't hear the prop tips going supersonic as it passes you and that's also part of the Merlin sound that's familiar as well. For movie makers I imagine that much of the in game sound would be dubbed over anyway.


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#3385008 - 09/07/11 10:06 PM Re: So the 109 sounds good but............... [Re: ishbu]  
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Here's a quick clip of the Merlin sounds in the new patch! As I mentioned earlier, I think the start up is very good, both in the cockpit and external. In cockpit sound is good, too, but I'm disappointed in the external Merlin sound and the flyby. We've all heard Spits and Hurries in airshows, plus the iconic Merlin engine sounds in a number of movies. I was really hoping that Cliffs of Dover would stir the heart in the same manner! See what you think:



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#3385013 - 09/07/11 10:21 PM Re: So the 109 sounds good but............... [Re: ishbu]  
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#3385019 - 09/07/11 10:26 PM Re: So the 109 sounds good but............... [Re: FearlessFrog]  
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Guess I have to keep Riley the Spit Hound on a shorter leash! LOL


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#3385123 - 09/08/11 12:30 AM Re: So the 109 sounds good but............... [Re: ishbu]  
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I am happy to hear improvements in all sounds, but I hope that this is just the beginning. smile


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#3385150 - 09/08/11 01:11 AM Re: So the 109 sounds good but............... [Re: FearlessFrog]  
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Originally Posted By: FearlessFrog



Yes indeed..what the biggrin

Thanks for uploading that Snaps, i didn't get a chance to apply the patch last night and tonight i have to do a birthday dinner thing @$##! smile so i am wingless until at least Friday.


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#3385162 - 09/08/11 01:32 AM Re: So the 109 sounds good but............... [Re: Ajay]  
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Well, I know all about birthday dinners! LOL

I'm hoping that the devs will continue tweaking the Merlin sounds. They were justifiably proud enough to feature the 109 sounds in their little preview clip last Friday, but I suspected something was amiss when the Spit/Hurri sounds were omitted from a Battle of BRITAIN preview. This could be an indication that they, too, know what a Merlin engine truly sounds like and for the time being the means to accurately reproduce it with the CoD sound engine is eluding them. Even as good as Jafa's sound mod is, the Jafa flyby still has that Hoover vacuum cleaner swoosh to it.

Maybe if they went 64-bit............... JUST KIDDING!!!! hahaha


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#3385294 - 09/08/11 05:33 AM Re: So the 109 sounds good but............... [Re: ishbu]  
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#3385385 - 09/08/11 10:42 AM Re: So the 109 sounds good but............... [Re: ishbu]  
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I'm just glad they overhauled the sound engine, I was always disappointed with how it would have a compression/strange bending effect on flybys and in other areas. Even with Jafa's great sounds, the engine always pulled it like taffy and just killed it for me. They have finally fixed this 'effect' and all the sounds, sound great.

Yeah all the other sounds outside the 109 sound a little bland and generic in a way but defiantly going in the right direction, and besides it looks positive that down the road if people like Jafa want to tweak it with their own sounds the engine will handle it much better.


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#3385507 - 09/08/11 02:57 PM Re: So the 109 sounds good but............... [Re: gfrally]  
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Good input. Welcome to the forum, gflinchbaugh!


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#3385637 - 09/08/11 06:16 PM Re: So the 109 sounds good but............... [Re: ishbu]  
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The start and ground idle sound fine, as soon as you open the throttle it all goes Pete Tong. On fly by, once the Spit has flown over the camera position it starts to sound very 'radial engin'ish'. Also, any chance of more exhaust flame, goto love an overprime start.
1C sound chaps, please PM me.


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Originally Posted By: HarryR
The start and ground idle sound fine, as soon as you open the throttle it all goes Pete Tong. On fly by, once the Spit has flown over the camera position it starts to sound very 'radial engin'ish'. Also, any chance of more exhaust flame, goto love an overprime start.
1C sound chaps, please PM me.



Harry,
You are right about that part of the merlin. I hadn't listened or flown the spit from takeoff, just on flybys, yes big improvement.


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#3386903 - 09/10/11 03:43 AM Re: So the 109 sounds good but............... [Re: ATAG_Snapper]  
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Originally Posted By: Snapper
Here's a quick clip of the Merlin sounds in the new patch! As I mentioned earlier, I think the start up is very good, both in the cockpit and external. In cockpit sound is good, too, but I'm disappointed in the external Merlin sound and the flyby. We've all heard Spits and Hurries in airshows, plus the iconic Merlin engine sounds in a number of movies. I was really hoping that Cliffs of Dover would stir the heart in the same manner! See what you think:



Yes but an early Merlin with 3 bladed prop sounds very differrent to a 4 bladed later Merlin that we are generally more familiar with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7uAKbfddbM&feature=player_embedded
The more raucous sounding Merlin in this video is a later model thats outside the view. Its a good contrast to the more subtle 3 blade sound.

The 3 Ship here (below) is a stunning bit of video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KUB-FLiZ4o&feature=player_embedded

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#3387015 - 09/10/11 09:34 AM Re: So the 109 sounds good but............... [Re: IvanK]  
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Great video and interesting info re 3-blade vs 4-blade prop sounds. The Merlin sounds were certainly affected to a degree by the engine modifications to boost horsepower, but they still sounded like Merlins!

This is the Hawker Hurricane that I knew well from local air shows until it was tragically lost in a hangar fire in '93:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKzJ4UoQkRA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I would be THRILLED if CoD could reproduce this engine sound. Currently, the external in-flight and flyby Merlin sound in CoD does not, even with the latest patch. frown


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