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#3369201 - 08/17/11 10:02 PM Re: What flight sim do you fly - Part 2 [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
I never quite understood the divide between those simmers who only like prop planes and those who only like jets. I love them all, even those funny ones with rotors that can move on the vertical very easily. biggrin


I think a lot of it is complexity of the systems involved (i.e., avionics, weapons, etc.). WWI and WW2 (and I guess Korea as well) are mainly "see target, shoot target" types of flight sims, while anything from Vietnam onwards has a lot more complexity built into it.

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#3369250 - 08/17/11 11:05 PM Re: What flight sim do you fly - Part 2 [Re: FearlessFrog]  
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#3369815 - 08/18/11 04:48 PM Re: What flight sim do you fly - Part 2 [Re: FearlessFrog]  
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I have heard a lot of WWII guys say the reason they don't fly modern stuff is that it's too hard for them. They have a hard time with radar, missile...stuff like that.


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#3369822 - 08/18/11 04:54 PM Re: What flight sim do you fly - Part 2 [Re: Cali]  
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Originally Posted By: Cali
I have heard a lot of WWII guys say the reason they don't fly modern stuff is that it's too hard for them. They have a hard time with radar, missile...stuff like that.
It does bring up an interesting debate for sure. Naturally, modern jet pilots need to be very well educated in a wide variety of subjects in order to properly use the complex avionics and weapons systems but along with that comes a lot of automation and less physical stuff that the pilots need to worry about. Compare that to a WWI or WW2 pilot where they obviously lacked complex weapon systems and avionics but the actual physical flying skills required were more demanding.

So in other words, pilots from all eras had to be on top of their game if they wanted to be effective.


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#3369869 - 08/18/11 05:54 PM Re: What flight sim do you fly - Part 2 [Re: FearlessFrog]  
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What's funny about all this complexity talk is that you'd think that all the technology built into today's modern warplane should make zapping enemy easier.


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#3369870 - 08/18/11 05:57 PM Re: What flight sim do you fly - Part 2 [Re: Boilerplate*]  
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stirthepot

What's funny about all this complexity talk is that you'd think that all the technology built into today's modern warplane should make zapping enemy easier.


It would be less complex if the other side agreed to only fly props - would cut down on the switches needed smile

#3370020 - 08/18/11 09:10 PM Re: What flight sim do you fly - Part 2 [Re: FearlessFrog]  
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#3370091 - 08/18/11 11:22 PM Re: What flight sim do you fly - Part 2 [Re: FearlessFrog]  
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In WWI, the pilots were more capable than the planes.

Today, the planes are more capable than the pilots.

In WWII, the pilot and the plane were pretty well matched.


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#3370094 - 08/18/11 11:25 PM Re: What flight sim do you fly - Part 2 [Re: FearlessFrog]  
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#3370372 - 08/19/11 10:46 AM Re: What flight sim do you fly - Part 2 [Re: Dervish]  
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Originally Posted By: Scylla
In WWI, the pilots were more capable than the planes.

Today, the planes are more capable than the pilots.

In WWII, the pilot and the plane were pretty well matched.


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#3370396 - 08/19/11 11:45 AM Re: What flight sim do you fly - Part 2 [Re: FearlessFrog]  
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#3370401 - 08/19/11 11:56 AM Re: What flight sim do you fly - Part 2 [Re: FearlessFrog]  
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Of course, other than the Super Hornet, F-22 and F-35, you could say pretty much EVERY plane is old. The others all first flew in the 1980s or earlier, so they're all a generation old or more.


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#3370621 - 08/19/11 05:18 PM Re: What flight sim do you fly - Part 2 [Re: FearlessFrog]  
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I'm another one who at some point played most of what's on the list, these days Freefalcon is about it for me, dabbled with the demo of ROF but my PC just aint up to it. Back in the day Mig Alley and Janes F-15. "Flightgear" seems to have a bit of a niche following, I'd never heard of it until recently, stumbled on a youtube video then realized there's hundreds of them.

#3371582 - 08/21/11 09:04 AM Re: What flight sim do you fly - Part 2 [Re: FearlessFrog]  
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I am a flight sim junkie from the days of Aces of the Pacific and Air Warrior. My current sims are, IL2 46 modded with Ultra Pack 3, FS2004 (have just reverted to this version as FSX just doesn't look pretty enough with my low spec system), LOMAC, FreeFalcon, and SF2. I love both prop and jet sims. I enjoy mastering the systems of modern jets, but also the up close and personal aspect of prop plane fighting. Gotta have the best of both worlds!!!

#3371600 - 08/21/11 10:43 AM Re: What flight sim do you fly - Part 2 [Re: FearlessFrog]  
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#3371603 - 08/21/11 10:51 AM Re: What flight sim do you fly - Part 2 [Re: FearlessFrog]  
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#3371617 - 08/21/11 11:44 AM Re: What flight sim do you fly - Part 2 [Re: FearlessFrog]  
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I mainly fly ThirdWire/SF2, but also fly LOFC2... but Aces High isn't listed and I have flown that one from 2000 until the present, so I guess subscription service sims just don't make the list?
Now I own nearly every sim listed, but I almost never fly the others for various reasons such as IL-2 just doesn't cut it when I can enjoy Aces High for its superior FM.


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#3371660 - 08/21/11 01:42 PM Re: What flight sim do you fly - Part 2 [Re: streakeagle]  
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Originally Posted By: streakeagle
so I guess subscription service sims just don't make the list?
The poll makes no claim about it including every single pc flight simulator ever made.

Is Aces High the last remaining flight sim with a subscription service? The last one I knew about was Air Warrior.

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#3371689 - 08/21/11 02:45 PM Re: What flight sim do you fly - Part 2 [Re: fatty]  
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#3371713 - 08/21/11 03:43 PM Re: What flight sim do you fly - Part 2 [Re: FearlessFrog]  
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