#3354944 - 07/30/11 12:35 AM
Re: Red Tails Trailer
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From the trailers, you would think that they were given the assignment to escort bombers, because they were the only ones who could do it. Yeah I sort of got that impression too. That is BS, the Tuskegee Airmen were good but they weren't the only ones who were good. I don't believe it should be necessary to put down all other ETA fighter pilots just to tell the Tuskegee story.
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#3355060 - 07/30/11 04:48 AM
Re: Red Tails Trailer
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Bigotry is alive and well in this country. Time for it to die once in for all.
Bigotry??? Staff Edit: Leave off the ad hominem attack. Miao, Cat
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When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. ~Benjamin Franklin
"The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." Winston Churchill
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#3355065 - 07/30/11 05:01 AM
Re: Red Tails Trailer
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Hell, it has war planes in it ! I will watch it anyways. Who cares about all this criticism about historical accuracy.
Bigotry is alive and well in this country. Time for it to die once in for all. WTF dude? Where in the hell is the Bigotry in this thread?
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#3355116 - 07/30/11 08:12 AM
Re: Red Tails Trailer
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One of the seemingly perpetual myths about the 332nd is that they never lost a bomber under their escort. However, it seems that as maybe as high as 25 bombers were lost while escorted by the group: An uneasy question for the Tuskegee Airmen Granted, it doesn't diminish what the men accomplished under the circumstances in which they found themselves, but nonetheless fact needs to be separated from fiction.
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#3355257 - 07/30/11 02:41 PM
Re: Red Tails Trailer
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but nonetheless fact needs to be separated from fiction.
Absolutely. Once people start doing that for the purpose of embellishing the accomplishments of a certain group then a huge disservice is done to ALL.
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#3355266 - 07/30/11 02:51 PM
Re: Red Tails Trailer
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Besides the usual Hollywood pathos and StarWars-y CGI action, every movie featuring B-17s, Mustangs, 109s and 262s is per definition awesome. I liked the original Tuskagee Airmen movie, so if this remake doesn't totally rape the subject I'll certainly watch it.
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#3355341 - 07/30/11 04:09 PM
Re: Red Tails Trailer
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One thing I'm VERY curious about but will never know the answer to is why Lucas ordered so many reshoots for the film. What was it that he didn't like? Well didn't he re-release the Star Wars franchise with better effects and sound? He does have a reputation for being a perfectionist.
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#3355771 - 07/31/11 08:11 AM
Re: Red Tails Trailer
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Like until France elects an Arab immigrant Premiere or Britian elects a Jamacian immigrant Prime Minister or a Jew Chancellor of Germany. As far as I'm concerned America is ahead of the racial debate curve and much less bigoted than people say we are.
At least Germany had Walther Rathenau , a Jewish Foreign Minister of Germany 1922 , during the Weimar Republic. He was later assassinated.
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#3355850 - 07/31/11 01:19 PM
Re: Red Tails Trailer
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Like until France elects an Arab immigrant Premiere or Britian elects a Jamacian immigrant Prime Minister or a Jew Chancellor of Germany. As far as I'm concerned America is ahead of the racial debate curve and much less bigoted than people say we are.
At least Germany had Walther Rathenau , a Jewish Foreign Minister of Germany 1922 , during the Weimar Republic. He was later assassinated. Um and let's not forget Margaret Thatcher, the first female British PM.
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#3356212 - 07/31/11 11:41 PM
Re: Red Tails Trailer
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Worst CGI I've seen in a while. I've seen better in movies from 1998. Also, like others have said, the sky is big and planes are small. But I will watch the movie anyway
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#3356249 - 08/01/11 12:41 AM
Re: Red Tails Trailer
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Like until France elects an Arab immigrant Premiere or Britian elects a Jamacian immigrant Prime Minister or a Jew Chancellor of Germany. As far as I'm concerned America is ahead of the racial debate curve and much less bigoted than people say we are.
At least Germany had Walther Rathenau , a Jewish Foreign Minister of Germany 1922 , during the Weimar Republic. He was later assassinated. Um and let's not forget Margaret Thatcher, the first female British PM. she was assinated ? Will they shoot down every 262 as easily as potting ducks in a pond? ? Regardless, i will be lining up for this one.Just need to chuck what i know about ww2 air combat out the window the moment i walk in and enjoy it for what it is.
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#3356264 - 08/01/11 12:53 AM
Re: Red Tails Trailer
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I kept watching the trailer wondering when Ben Afleck would pop in. The producers felt it was more important to give Cuba Gooding Jr. the job. He needs the work.
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