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#3352390 - 07/27/11 08:25 AM Re: UK players of CoD, how does the scenery "feel?" [Re: letterboy1]  

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White fields?

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#3352396 - 07/27/11 08:39 AM Re: UK players of CoD, how does the scenery "feel?" [Re: letterboy1]  
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Dano, come on...i guess these are fields he hasn't re-touched yet buddy smile

#3352402 - 07/27/11 08:53 AM Re: UK players of CoD, how does the scenery "feel?" [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
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For the lack of information by the devs i can only assume that the original colours will be looking perfectly fine when we will get realistic weather and haze.
The mod will then look worse, i think.

#3352403 - 07/27/11 08:57 AM Re: UK players of CoD, how does the scenery "feel?" [Re: letterboy1]  
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Robtek, maybe but all the haze in the world isn't going to change the pastel colors we have now.

This is England, south coast...


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To my eyes the "MOD" brings the landscape closer to this, and that's what i see everyday.

#3352405 - 07/27/11 09:10 AM Re: UK players of CoD, how does the scenery "feel?" [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  

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Originally Posted By: BKHZ_Furbs
Dano, come on...i guess these are fields he hasn't re-touched yet buddy smile


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#3352406 - 07/27/11 09:12 AM Re: UK players of CoD, how does the scenery "feel?" [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
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Wow that is shockingly good, first landscape mod that I have liked.

#3352462 - 07/27/11 11:35 AM Re: UK players of CoD, how does the scenery "feel?" [Re: ]  
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My head or your's Dano's (can you use the emotes if your being sarky please smile )

#3352465 - 07/27/11 11:39 AM Re: UK players of CoD, how does the scenery "feel?" [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
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Looks good to me as a native.

We're still not getting a realistic depth from haze but at least the colours/trees/fields look a lot more like Eng-a-land than the stock; I espeically like the bump mapping as you do tend to notice a lot of texture when flying.


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heres a few pics of a MOD a guy called EKar is working on over at 1c, a WIP but a big improvement to me...


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#3352470 - 07/27/11 11:43 AM Re: UK players of CoD, how does the scenery "feel?" [Re: letterboy1]  
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Georgio, Yep agreed lets hope the darker tree MOD can be added to this.

Then somebody can do blue haze MOD and we are almost there!

#3352509 - 07/27/11 12:29 PM Re: UK players of CoD, how does the scenery "feel?" [Re: letterboy1]  
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There is a silly amount of detail in this game, just wish it had received the polish it deserved before release frown

#3352531 - 07/27/11 12:56 PM Re: UK players of CoD, how does the scenery "feel?" [Re: letterboy1]  
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Actually, as far as I'm concerned the 'flourescent' ish green isn't too far off what you do see on a bright summers day. Although the wood/tree/field/hedge placement is better in WOP, the colour palette is way off.

Check out some of the footage in this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8Ykuhh4TwQ - its not all shot at the same time of year, but when the sun is shining in the middle of summer (bloody rare, seems even rarer when you want nice clear skies rather than dodging dogshit weather), the green really is bright!

#3352535 - 07/27/11 01:00 PM Re: UK players of CoD, how does the scenery "feel?" [Re: letterboy1]  
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Agreed you might get a brighter green on a very sunny day at lunchtime, but you dont get all the other bright pastel colours in 10 different colours of fields next to each other. smile

#3352576 - 07/27/11 02:09 PM Re: UK players of CoD, how does the scenery "feel?" [Re: letterboy1]  
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Here's some pictures of the UK (Wiltshire) in late summer taken from my glider. The key things CloD gets wrong are i) bright and strong greens are present, not just pastel shades, ii) trees are generally darker than the fields, iii) trees often form clumps of woodland and iv) hedgerows line a lot of field boundaries.

To me CloD looks washed out and populated with very strange-looking light-coloured trees. The fields look like they are "painted".

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#3352590 - 07/27/11 02:27 PM Re: UK players of CoD, how does the scenery "feel?" [Re: letterboy1]  
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Totally right. I've been up in my brother's tandem paraglider (surprising how high you can get in those things with a high take-off) and what struck me was the vividness of the scenery below, the contrast and saturation, even before haze and distance effects start playing a part.

To say Clod looks 'cartoony' isn't just an insult, it's factual - by which I mean the colours are greatly simplified. That's even before we get into trees placement, boundaries, hedges etc.

It remains the bigegst single reason I have yet to buy the game (along with missing dynamic campaign and dynamic weather). I just could not fly it with these graphics in this day and age.

BTW, is there a plan to put back the shore-line animations etc? The edge of the sea and the rivers looks equally paralysing to me. Perhaps silly to some, but all these things would destroy immersion for me. A shame, given how good the in-cockpit graphics are.

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#3352632 - 07/27/11 03:20 PM Re: UK players of CoD, how does the scenery "feel?" [Re: jerryboy]  
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Originally Posted By: jerryboy
I flew over the Isle of Wight yesterday and wondered where they got all the rivers from, I'm not using max settings so I daresay the full effect might look better.


From IL2, look at IL2 and it is rivers everywhere just like in Clod.

#3352716 - 07/27/11 04:37 PM Re: UK players of CoD, how does the scenery "feel?" [Re: falstaff]  
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TBF other than the colors and lack of hedges the graphics are great..

#3352721 - 07/27/11 04:43 PM Re: UK players of CoD, how does the scenery "feel?" [Re: letterboy1]  
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I agree with all that's been said, RD's screenshots show up the problems with the colours and lighting excellently.

It's not just the colours but the tree placement that I have a big problem with. Look at RD's screeshots, the trees are in lines along the roads or field boundries, in CloD the trees are scattered randomly accross the map. It just looks wrong. WOP's colours may not be popular but its placing of trees and hadges was perfect for the UK. That's what made the terrain so appealing.

Its one of the reasons I've shelved the sim, I just can't get on with the terrain. ROF, WOP and the DCS series have a very different approach to terrain but I can enjoy looking at all of them, maybe DCS terrain looks the most real but ROF's and WOP's are also very good but in different ways. The bottom line is I just can't enjoy CloD's terrain, its a major turnoff.



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#3352799 - 07/27/11 06:41 PM Re: UK players of CoD, how does the scenery "feel?" [Re: RocketDog]  
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Originally Posted By: RocketDog
Here's some pictures of the UK (Wiltshire) in late summer taken from my glider. The key things CloD gets wrong are i) bright and strong greens are present, not just pastel shades, ii) trees are generally darker than the fields, iii) trees often form clumps of woodland and iv) hedgerows line a lot of field boundaries.

To me CloD looks washed out and populated with very strange-looking light-coloured trees. The fields look like they are "painted".

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I saw those pictures several times already on this forum and they make me wonder what argument are they going to prove. Those pictures are perfectly realistic with their nice mild pastel colors on a calibrated monitor but I bet those colors, especially green ones look way more saturated and acid greens than those in CloD screenshots for many who have never calibrated their screen. Only things missed in Clod are a blue haze and a little bit darker trees. Your second photo even shows the trees are almost the same darkness as CloDs ones.
So if we talk about “lime greens”. “garish” etc colors those photos rather prove that CloDs greens are spot on or pretty close saturation wise. I agree that a bit more blue haze would make CloD better but it's not something crucial. Other time It could look the Clod way for a bit different atmospheric and seasonal conditions.


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#3352807 - 07/27/11 06:44 PM Re: UK players of CoD, how does the scenery "feel?" [Re: letterboy1]  
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soaringbird, just awesome smile i take my hat off.

#3352878 - 07/27/11 08:08 PM Re: UK players of CoD, how does the scenery "feel?" [Re: letterboy1]  
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Soarinbird's arguments (and those of others) reduce to:

1. It's not Clod that looks strange, it's the monitors used by simmers that make it look strange.

2. Even if you live in England and think CloD looks strange and not like England, you're wrong.

I give up.


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