Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#3344969 - 07/18/11 08:49 PM Ok...il start us off..Oleg  
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,818
BKHZ_Furbs Offline
Senior Member
BKHZ_Furbs  Offline
Senior Member

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,818
Sacked, walked out or just lost interest?

My view is he lost interest over 2 years ago, sold up to Luthier but part of the deal was for Oleg to pretend to still be around posting updates till release to keep people thinking he was still in charge.
Luthier got the code, but it seems he hired new staff to replace team members who left and they are still trying to get up to speed.

Inline advert (2nd and 3rd post)

#3344985 - 07/18/11 08:59 PM Re: Ok...il start us off..Oleg [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,815
DaveP63 Offline
Member
DaveP63  Offline
Member

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,815
Indiana, USA
I don't really know, but I'm sure he's gone. Long gone.


i5-4460@3.2ghz, 16GB Ram, Gigabyte GTX1050Ti 4GB, 2TB HDD, 500GB SDD
#3344988 - 07/18/11 09:01 PM Re: Ok...il start us off..Oleg [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 182
Novotny Offline
Member
Novotny  Offline
Member

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 182
Belfast
I think he just got completely sick of the flight sim community - and being financially independent, he didn't have to do it anymore. So he's off now doing whatever he wants to without having people moan at him and accuse him of all sorts of things day in, day out.

#3344996 - 07/18/11 09:06 PM Re: Ok...il start us off..Oleg [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 414
Brealistic Offline
Member
Brealistic  Offline
Member

Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 414

I think he found out his grand vision for COD was a little less then possible. Then he lost interest.

#3345005 - 07/18/11 09:13 PM Re: Ok...il start us off..Oleg [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,818
BKHZ_Furbs Offline
Senior Member
BKHZ_Furbs  Offline
Senior Member

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,818
It does look like the COD engine was hanging around for quite a few years, with the plane and ground models being done ages ago by the old team...and that's why they look fantastic, then the new team came along and had to rush the rest, hence shrek island terrain, old looking clouds etc etc.

#3345008 - 07/18/11 09:18 PM Re: Ok...il start us off..Oleg [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 414
Brealistic Offline
Member
Brealistic  Offline
Member

Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 414

I think those darn detailed trees did him in. He couldn't find a practical way to put hit boxes on all of them. hahaha

#3345010 - 07/18/11 09:21 PM Re: Ok...il start us off..Oleg [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,818
BKHZ_Furbs Offline
Senior Member
BKHZ_Furbs  Offline
Senior Member

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,818
they should of tried the ROF trees, look great and don't cost performance and you cant fly through them.

#3345012 - 07/18/11 09:24 PM Re: Ok...il start us off..Oleg [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 18,538
piper Offline
Veteran
piper  Offline
Veteran

Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 18,538
Raleigh,NC
Interesting topic.

Oleg is an Aeronautical Engineer by trade. Took his hobby to the forefront and birthed his baby - IL-2.
Made great strides. Got married and had a family. Got into a bad traffic accident. Saw the limitations
of the original graphics engine and decided to do something about it. Looked like he was trying for the
elusive air/ground battle sim (hence the ground unit detail) like DCS is attempting and DiD of the past.
Was too much.

Would be nice to hear what really happened though.

#3345030 - 07/18/11 09:44 PM Re: Ok...il start us off..Oleg [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,818
BKHZ_Furbs Offline
Senior Member
BKHZ_Furbs  Offline
Senior Member

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,818
I don't know about you guys but i get the feeling Oleg had nothing to do with the terrain we have now, when you look at the old version of COD the terrain looks far more "Oleg" to me, same with the ground models.

here...

By furbs9999 at 2011-07-08

#3345037 - 07/18/11 09:50 PM Re: Ok...il start us off..Oleg [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  

**DONOTDELETE**
Unregistered
anon
Unregistered


It can be fun speculating but I really hope one day we get the full story.

#3345041 - 07/18/11 09:53 PM Re: Ok...il start us off..Oleg [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,818
BKHZ_Furbs Offline
Senior Member
BKHZ_Furbs  Offline
Senior Member

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,818
It also seems Luthier(to me) doesn't have the same love as Oleg did, not getting the same level of skills in his staff, the sound guy and who ever made the GUI, i don't know, maybe he had a very limited budget to work with and very limited time, it also looks like he made the campaigns himself (remember his thread at 1c asking for ideas for missions), plus he said about Spitgirl "trust me on this" screwy

#3345046 - 07/18/11 09:58 PM Re: Ok...il start us off..Oleg [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,818
BKHZ_Furbs Offline
Senior Member
BKHZ_Furbs  Offline
Senior Member

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,818
Dano, i would gladly pay for a meal and a few beers with Luthier to get the whole story smile

#3345114 - 07/18/11 11:24 PM Re: Ok...il start us off..Oleg [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 414
Brealistic Offline
Member
Brealistic  Offline
Member

Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 414
Originally Posted By: BKHZ_Furbs
Dano, i would gladly pay for a meal and a few beers with Luthier to get the whole story smile


I think he would do it for a hooker and a happy meal. biggrin

#3345147 - 07/19/11 12:48 AM Re: Ok...il start us off..Oleg [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,737
FearlessFrog Offline
Senior Member
FearlessFrog  Offline
Senior Member

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,737
There can be speculation without character defamation(*) I think. Let's not out-do each other in how low we can go please.

(*) I'm not a lawyer but I've seen Judge Judy multiple times now.

#3345154 - 07/19/11 01:05 AM Re: Ok...il start us off..Oleg [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,815
DaveP63 Offline
Member
DaveP63  Offline
Member

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,815
Indiana, USA
Perhaps some day we will know. I doubt it, but perhaps. I agree about the early stuff having Oleg's fingerprints all over it. The obviously newer stuff just looks and feels (?) different. Rushed. Incomplete. Definitely not Oleg like. That's part of why I think he was (and is) long gone.


i5-4460@3.2ghz, 16GB Ram, Gigabyte GTX1050Ti 4GB, 2TB HDD, 500GB SDD
#3345158 - 07/19/11 01:16 AM Re: Ok...il start us off..Oleg [Re: FearlessFrog]  
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 414
Brealistic Offline
Member
Brealistic  Offline
Member

Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 414
Originally Posted By: FearlessFrog
There can be speculation without character defamation(*) I think. Let's not out-do each other in how low we can go please.

(*) I'm not a lawyer but I've seen Judge Judy multiple times now.


actually I wasn't being serious at all. hahaha

I believe Luther was totally put on the hot seat and it wasn't of his own doing.

#3345310 - 07/19/11 08:32 AM Re: Ok...il start us off..Oleg [Re: ]  
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 481
ZG26_Emil Offline
Member
ZG26_Emil  Offline
Member

Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 481
Cheshire....Ok stockport
Originally Posted By: anon
It can be fun speculating but I really hope one day we get the full story.


I would love to find out as well.

Was this why the name changed from (SOW totally new) to IL2 CLOD? Or would it have been IL2 SOW?

I wonder if Oleg took some aspects of the game or even code with him when he went due to the vaste number of place holders and similarities to IL2.

Maybe one day we will get the true story.


Formerly JG5_Emil
#3345333 - 07/19/11 10:29 AM Re: Ok...il start us off..Oleg [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,089
Tree Offline
Member
Tree  Offline
Member

Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,089
Derby, England
Does anyone still believe that CLOD is an entire new game engine?

#3345335 - 07/19/11 10:42 AM Re: Ok...il start us off..Oleg [Re: Tree]  
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 199
Phazon Offline
Member
Phazon  Offline
Member

Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 199
Sydney, NSW, Australia
Originally Posted By: Tree
Does anyone still believe that CLOD is an entire new game engine?


It doesn't look it at the moment does it.

The main issue is because they pulled features out because they weren't finished. For example the clouds and water we have at the moment are incredibly basic, compared to what was shown in the previews. The engine has definately been upgraded but its no-where near showing what its capable of yet.


"Rock crushes scissors ... but paper covers rock, and scissors cuts paper! Kif, we have a conundrum." - Zapp Brannigan
#3345348 - 07/19/11 11:32 AM Re: Ok...il start us off..Oleg [Re: Tree]  
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,212
Avimimus Offline
Two-speed Five-Blade Fan
Avimimus  Offline
Two-speed Five-Blade Fan
Senior Member

Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,212
Canada
Originally Posted By: Tree
Does anyone still believe that CLOD is an entire new game engine?


Of course I do - Il-2 had only a few of the bugs reported in CoD.

Of course, it is also a game engine patterned on a similar design/philosophy.

Saying that Il-2 and CoD are the same is like saying that the PAK-FA has the same internal frame as a Su-27 (when, in reality, it is simply parts of the design philosophy, engineering research and air doctrine)!

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  RacerGT 

Quick Search
Recent Articles
Support SimHQ

If you shop on Amazon use this Amazon link to support SimHQ
.
Social


Recent Topics
76 years ago today -- D-Day
by Sluggish Controls. 06/06/20 04:13 AM
Very educational F-22 video
by Zamzow. 06/05/20 11:35 PM
Justice for Maddie
by RossUK. 06/04/20 11:11 AM
Perhaps My Final Flight
by FishTaco. 06/04/20 02:59 AM
Blue Angel's will transition to the Rhino
by CyBerkut. 06/02/20 12:41 PM
The pancake chef...
by Mr_Blastman. 05/31/20 06:33 PM
DOSBox/MS-DOS6
by MarkG. 05/31/20 02:14 PM
Question for gun lovers
by Blade_RJ. 05/30/20 02:54 PM
Copyright 1997-2016, SimHQ Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0