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#3342956 - 07/16/11 09:10 AM Re: The past is history...moving on [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
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The problem as i see it is...

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#3343039 - 07/16/11 01:26 PM Re: The past is history...moving on [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
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One has a moral right, within in reason, to pursue happiness, even on an internet flight sim forum.


Even when that means acting like a monkey in the zoo by crapping in one's hand and throwing it at people? All in the interest of showing people that sh-- does stink again and again and again and again and again and again; it makes the monkey happy and serves a valuable insight into the product (which is what we're all after, right?). In the end we all avoid the monkee cages and eventually the whole zoo - after which the monkey congratulates himself that everyone understands his point.

Cripes, try to read every thread on this forum.

The sim, for all its failures, is not a Crime Against Humanity. It doesn't even rise to nuisance, yet from the tone and the words one would think we need a UN tribunal with charges against Oleg and Luthier.


The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events.

More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.com

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#3343046 - 07/16/11 01:30 PM Re: The past is history...moving on [Re: Dart]  
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Dang! Now THERE'S a perspective! LOL


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#3343054 - 07/16/11 01:46 PM Re: The past is history...moving on [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
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Dart, nothing of the sort.

Funny how it's 'just a game' when it turns out disappointingly, but there was no such perspective when it was being hailed as the second coming before release. That sounds like an attempt to distance the game from criticism. Hey, it's only a game...

And the idea, elsewhere, that criticism of it here in some way reflects society's ills...is too silly for words, almost.

'Back when I were a lad....'

Ben

#3343063 - 07/16/11 02:11 PM Re: The past is history...moving on [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
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Oh christ in another thread people who enjoyed the game were being lectured 'It's only a game'. I love this place lol

#3343106 - 07/16/11 03:40 PM Re: The past is history...moving on [Re: Dart]  
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Originally Posted By: Dart
Quote:
One has a moral right, within in reason, to pursue happiness, even on an internet flight sim forum.


Even when that means acting like a monkey in the zoo by crapping in one's hand and throwing it at people? All in the interest of showing people that sh-- does stink again and again and again and again and again and again; it makes the monkey happy and serves a valuable insight into the product (which is what we're all after, right?).


Getting a little philosophical here . . . but people have a moral "right," within reason, to do objectionable or immoral things. Else there is no morality, only enforced behavior.


Originally Posted By: Dart
The sim, for all its failures, is not a Crime Against Humanity. It doesn't even rise to nuisance, yet from the tone and the words one would think we need a UN tribunal with charges against Oleg and Luthier.


No, of course not, but it is about the biggest dissappointment, even outright disaster, in the history of PC flight simming.

#3343158 - 07/16/11 05:00 PM Re: The past is history...moving on [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
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Nimitz, you seem like an intelligent person; I suspect you are choosing to ignore the points Dart is making.

As someone who owns this flight sim, I'm both dissappointed and amazed at the same time, but your melodrama is noted

#3343163 - 07/16/11 05:05 PM Re: The past is history...moving on [Re: Nimits]  
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"No, of course not, but it is about the biggest dissappointment, even outright disaster, in the history of PC flight simming."

No way! What about the cancellation of Fighter Duel 2?????

(Other SimHQ members scratch their heads and say, "eh?")


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#3343167 - 07/16/11 05:07 PM Re: The past is history...moving on [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
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Fighter Duel was a good game (by Philips), in its own very limited way. I liked it.

Talking of obscure...Back to Baghdad was good also smile

Ben

#3343173 - 07/16/11 05:11 PM Re: The past is history...moving on [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
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he he

#3343179 - 07/16/11 05:16 PM Re: The past is history...moving on [Re: falstaff]  
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Originally Posted By: falstaff
Fighter Duel was a good game (by Philips), in its own very limited way. I liked it.

Talking of obscure...Back to Baghdad was good also smile

Ben


Holy smokes, Ben, you remember Fighter Duel!!!

Yeah, it was strictly an online (back in the days of 14.4 modems) fighter vs fighter sim, and there was the Fighter Duel Ladder you could participate in. The FM and graphics were pretty good, for its time, and the sounds were pretty lousy unless you hooked up to a huge subwoofer. One thing that I only realized late in the game was that the faster a system you had the more advantage you had over your opponent. Not sure how that worked, but it kinda put me off the online competition aspect. Fortunately you could fly offline, set up small dogfight scenarios......by golly....a lot like C0D!!! LOL


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#3343186 - 07/16/11 05:25 PM Re: The past is history...moving on [Re: ATAG_Snapper]  
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Originally Posted By: Snapper
"No, of course not, but it is about the biggest dissappointment, even outright disaster, in the history of PC flight simming."

No way! What about the cancellation of Fighter Duel 2?????

(Other SimHQ members scratch their heads and say, "eh?")



I was ticked off when Dynamix canceled "X Fighters" long time ago. But that game was binned early in development.

I have been playing flight games since my Commodore 64 in the late 80's and if there has ever been

a greater dissappointment than CoD, I sure cant remember it. Only thing that rivals it was "1944 Across the Rhine"

by Microprose, but that was a different genre. (tanks, land battle etc.)


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