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#3329930 - 06/28/11 01:07 AM New German Shooting Range  
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#3329957 - 06/28/11 02:03 AM Re: New German Shooting Range [Re: shan2]  
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Hmmm. Cool Germans shoot 1911s apparently. HAHHAHAHHA.

Is this like a German Bass Pro Shop? wink


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#3329958 - 06/28/11 02:07 AM Re: New German Shooting Range [Re: shan2]  
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#3329960 - 06/28/11 02:08 AM Re: New German Shooting Range [Re: shan2]  
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Now this looks like FUN. Sure wish we had some of these over here.


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#3329965 - 06/28/11 02:21 AM Re: New German Shooting Range [Re: shan2]  
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#3330027 - 06/28/11 03:37 AM Re: New German Shooting Range [Re: shan2]  
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Leave it to the Germans to create a very efficient and technically brilliant shooting range. smile


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#3330139 - 06/28/11 09:07 AM Re: New German Shooting Range [Re: shan2]  
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Actually I thought the rooms all look a bit to futuristic and just bland/cold, as though they were entirely designed by men. wink

Still looks interesting in case you're allowed to shoot a gun and got the money though.

#3330141 - 06/28/11 09:16 AM Re: New German Shooting Range [Re: shan2]  
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#3330142 - 06/28/11 09:21 AM Re: New German Shooting Range [Re: shan2]  
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It's not a member range, it's a commercial range.

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#3330157 - 06/28/11 09:57 AM Re: New German Shooting Range [Re: shan2]  
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Great prices actually. 20EUR for a rifle or handgun rental all day, 36EUR for the 300m range per hour, 18 for the 25m handgun range.

Seeing that a decent handgun here can easily set you back 800 bucks or more, it sounds like a nice deal for someone who wants to shoot only occasionally.

#3330674 - 06/28/11 08:20 PM Re: New German Shooting Range [Re: shan2]  
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I'd like to see a German walk into my local gun store after that fancy place in the video. Every employee carries a side arm and is pre-qualified to be in a Deliverance stage production on short notice. Most of the customers are also carrying, but overqualified for Deliverance. There is a sign on the front door encouraging customers to use their 2nd ammendment right. Everyone is very curteous to each other. The shooting range is alot smaller - about 18 lanes out to 25 yards for pistol calibers up to .44 mag. Most people don't shoot at simple round targets - we use body silhouettes, pictures of terrorists, bad guys, and zombies. For outdoor shooting, we go "out yonder."

@JimK, I'm sure you noticed the location of the range - Ulm. Maybe they will choose your hometown if they expand to the US market. smile


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#3330683 - 06/28/11 08:27 PM Re: New German Shooting Range [Re: letterboy1]  
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Originally Posted By: letterboy1
we use body silhouettes, pictures of terrorists, bad guys, and zombies. For outdoor shooting, we go "out yonder."



Are any of those pictures of "bad guys" of William Sherman or Ulysses Grant? wink

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#3330687 - 06/28/11 08:29 PM Re: New German Shooting Range [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted By: letterboy1
we use body silhouettes, pictures of terrorists, bad guys, and zombies. For outdoor shooting, we go "out yonder."



Are any of those pictures of "bad guys" of William Sherman or Ulysses Grant? wink


We are so over that (in public).


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#3330703 - 06/28/11 08:40 PM Re: New German Shooting Range [Re: shan2]  
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#3330716 - 06/28/11 08:54 PM Re: New German Shooting Range [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted By: letterboy1
we use body silhouettes, pictures of terrorists, bad guys, and zombies. For outdoor shooting, we go "out yonder."



Are any of those pictures of "bad guys" of William Sherman or Ulysses Grant? wink


I was told that the likenesses of the people are licensed.
If you were to use a likeness, say of someone in public office, you would be arrested for terrorist acts.
Yikes.


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#3330775 - 06/28/11 10:06 PM Re: New German Shooting Range [Re: shan2]  
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Cute range if that is all you've got. But it doesn't move me. What about learning to deal with environmental factors ?

No, I'm not a fan of it.


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#3330811 - 06/28/11 11:08 PM Re: New German Shooting Range [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Hi OG,

well, if you'd know all the trouble one has to go through to shoot long guns here in Germany, you'd be more that happy to have such a range close to you.

I've never been there (Ulm is a 2-hour drive from Munich one way, which is too far for my taste), and that "shooting center" looks too sterile and "posh" for my taste. Yet it might be one of the only choices left for the average German long gunner. It's very hard to find an outdoor range these days (Germany is very densely populated; the majority of the population is very "anti gun"; and no one wants to have an open air range close by due to the noise).

Our own gun club has been looking for a long gun range for ages, but it is next to impossible to find one. Our club "president" - who used to be an officer in the German Army and who's still in the reserves - tried to get permission to use the Bundeswehr range in Frstenfeldbruck, but it doesn't work out due to the residents nearby (during the week, Army and Bavarian Police are using the site, and it is closed on weekends due to the noise). Which is a shame, because we have this beautiful original K98k sitting in the gun locker.

Consider yourself to be very fortunate to have all those outdoor gun ranges available to use.


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#3330915 - 06/29/11 01:46 AM Re: New German Shooting Range [Re: shan2]  
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Good point, Jayhawk. Alot of people here definitely do appreciate the opportunities to use gun ranges and the local one I refered to stays busy. But as I'm sure you know, we also have alot of people who would like to change all of that. The USA would be a very different country without the 2nd Ammendment.


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#3330946 - 06/29/11 02:36 AM Re: New German Shooting Range [Re: shan2]  
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36 euros an hour? Yikes!

Helmut, I need to get you back out to Lytle Creek. wink

#3331028 - 06/29/11 05:54 AM Re: New German Shooting Range [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Originally Posted By: oldgrognard
Cute range if that is all you've got. But it doesn't move me. What about learning to deal with environmental factors ?

No, I'm not a fan of it.


It kind of IS "all they've got". I've lived in Germany, and traveled extensively there. It's beautiful, would love to go back. But there is precious little "open area" in which to set up long rifle ranges outside. It's not so much the distance of the targets, but the "max danger range" of the projectiles. Now, I can't speak for the area that used to be known as "East Germany", but in the South West, there always seemed to be another town a mile away. ALWAYS. In every direction. Didn't matter which direction you went, or from where you started, there was another town a mile down the road. I'm only slightly exaggerating!

Germany also has much land set for farming, and really significant areas declared as...er..."polution free" or something? anyway, in those areas, no lead, no polutions at all, the army couldn't drive our vehicles through, for fear of leaking oil or diesel, even for five minutes. Crazy obsessive? Maybe to this here soldier in 1990...but it's their country, their rules, and if they want to keep their country clean, that's their choice to enforce!

My point? Just that land is at a very high premium in Germany, enough that having enough land to set up a long distance rifle range is increasingly difficult for the German Army, and probably next to unavailable to civilians there! Even in the late 1980's, some European armies were increasingly having to conduct rifle practice of their 7.62 battle rifles using plastic projectiles on 50 meter ranges...pathetic, but if that's all that's available, I guess you adapt and overcome! I'm not talking about tip of the spear units, they'd get full ball and trace, on jungle lanes and unknown distance ranges...but the average REMF might never actually shoot a target at 300m.

Europe has luxuries like their trains and subway systems, and "(not)free healthcare". Canada and the USA have luxuries like enough space for recreational 1000m rifle ranges for civilians, or dirt bike trails.


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