#3286945 - 05/04/11 04:08 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
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JWNoctis
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If you have an operating system CD, one nice way to circumvent this would be a virtual machine...Been blowing Blackbirds out of the sky on my 1280x800 notebook, with a virtual machine running on 1280x1024 with scrollbars. You can only see a part of the interface at one time with this method, although it's still way better than nothing. An unrelated note: Does Google KML supports displaying height in tags? Just might have an idea for a probable easy-to-implement, and stopgap, AAR feature. And...thanks!
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#3288248 - 05/06/11 08:03 AM
Re: SAM Simulator
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Instead of announcement, here are my thoughts and questions... I'm toying with the idea of adding the S-300PS/PMU (SA-10B) to the SAM simulator, but... 1, Hungary only planned to field this system, it never realized it. The Cold War ended before the procurement, witch means that in Hungary nobody ever operated/fired this system, and nobody could test the simulator, or help in its development.
2, There are surprisingly big amount of detailed information on the WEB about it... - VKO article about live firing with missile track drawings: http://www.vko.ru/DesktopModules/Article...version=Staging - Youtube videos about its operation ... but they are not technical enough.So I could do an SA-10B sim, but it would not as deep and realistic as usual, and certainly would not be " Realistic to the Switch". Currently Russia is removing these systems from live service, replacing those with the second/third generation (S-300PM SA-20A, S-400 SA-21). So it might be better to wait few years, until more technical info will surface about its operation (meantime do "Realistic to the Switch" Shilka and Dvina), or should I do a not so realistic sim? What is Your opinion?
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#3288319 - 05/06/11 11:53 AM
Re: SAM Simulator
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I'd vote for staying with what we have for some time...Not sure whether it will be good or not to add a system that's still relatively new with top-of-the-line derivatives into the sim. Probably not a problem, but still...And accuracy is more important than technical advancement IMO. I think I agree with this.
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#3288334 - 05/06/11 12:28 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
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Is it possible to contact SAM operators from former czechoslovak SA-10B battalion? At least we can ask at http://forum.fortifikace.net/ if there is such possibility. (Afterall I understand that you have contact to at least one former czechoslovak Neva operator.)
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#3288586 - 05/06/11 05:32 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
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Maybe making a S-300 sim few years later, and make it Realistc would be a better choice. More information need to be collected... -http://www.vko.ru/DesktopModules/Articles/ArticlesView.aspx?tabID=320&ItemID=280&mid=2891&wversion=StagingIt seems to be a test fire of S-300PMU2 in China, and the red target is CK-1.
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#3288734 - 05/06/11 09:03 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
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PN79
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When I wrote that little info about history of CS SAM units (I know it needs some updates) in http://www.makephpbb.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=79&mforum=geimint it was mentioned possibility to contact former czechoslovak S-300 battalion commander as he is Czech and is thus not bounded by slovak's secrets. Dunno if that possibility is still there. Anyway I would like to see both Dvina and Shilka sooner than S-300 because of using them in existing scenarios. As for which one sooner - Dvina would be excellent for Vietnam scenario but Shilka is something comletely different and interesting so I leave that decision for others. Regards Pavel Novak
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#3288766 - 05/06/11 09:33 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
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My vote goes for the S-75 Dvina. I think you should do Shilka and Dvina, because: 1) they really fought 2) they fit into the overall "style" of the old, single target channel systems 3) Information on C-300 is extremely small and difficult to obtain. Today possible to make only "arcade" game, but not a sim.
Truly curious would be to make the Kub, seems he have in Poland. agreed
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#3288853 - 05/06/11 11:37 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
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Voting...
After implementing the NASA digital terrain model, to simulate realistic ground clutter, what system should I implement?
- SA-75MK Dvina (SA-2F) - ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka
? Of course the Sa-75 MK Dvina !
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#3289003 - 05/07/11 04:30 AM
Re: SAM Simulator
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Exodus
by RedOneAlpha. 04/18/24 05:46 PM
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