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#3271966 - 04/16/11 11:44 PM Gamespot Review for CoD - Score: 4.0  
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It is actually really sad to read this as actually CoD is a really good game, they just reviewed it way too early :/
Edit: I should have wrote, they released it way too early.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/sim/il-2-sturmovik-cliffs-of-dover/review.html

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#3271972 - 04/17/11 12:02 AM Re: Gamespot Review for CoD - Score: 4.0 [Re: devastat]  
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A real review from someone other than a fan boy is hard to read, but probably a lot more truthful.

#3271976 - 04/17/11 12:11 AM Re: Gamespot Review for CoD - Score: 4.0 [Re: devastat]  
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It's unfortunate, but very expected. The review was actually very fair I thought, although it would have been nice if they waited until the official version of the beta patch drops, seems like it would have fixed a fair amount of performance issues, but there's still no denying the game is thoroughly bugged. I hate to say it, but on a consumer level, it deserves the 4/10. We might not mind as enthusiasts of a dying genre, but your average joe would probably not be too thrilled with such a purchase, and the score given rightfully depicts that. The reviewer also acknowledges that the sim has huge potential to mature in the same vein 1946 did and that it's great fun and satisfying when it works so it's not all bad. Hopefully by the time the NA release rolls around the majority of the game breaking bugs will be fixed and we'll start seeing some respectable scores.

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#3271981 - 04/17/11 12:20 AM Re: Gamespot Review for CoD - Score: 4.0 [Re: devastat]  
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#3271982 - 04/17/11 12:26 AM Re: Gamespot Review for CoD - Score: 4.0 [Re: devastat]  
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#3271988 - 04/17/11 12:37 AM Re: Gamespot Review for CoD - Score: 4.0 [Re: devastat]  
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I'm enjoying it but this is a very fair reveiw of the game at this moment.Lets hope the next patch does what we all hope(sounds good as per the beta feed back).


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#3272003 - 04/17/11 01:02 AM Re: Gamespot Review for CoD - Score: 4.0 [Re: devastat]  
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Afraid its a pretty spot on review. As if in this internet age, it needed underlining. You cannot release kludge and get away with it. What on earth were they thinking, when 1c released it in the state it was? Stark contrast as to how DCS managed their release of a10c. Very much the finest modern a/c simulation, bar none.


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#3272004 - 04/17/11 01:03 AM Re: Gamespot Review for CoD - Score: 4.0 [Re: devastat]  
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It's a pretty good review. I've seen worse games get higher scores, but what the reviewer said seemed reasonable plus he actually played/reviewed the game on merit rather than emotion. Some of the user provided reviews there are pretty painful to read, lots of extremes too, i.e. 1/10 or 10/10 but not much in-between.

I think a lot of people who've played flight sims before know the background to IL2 and rightly or wrongly you do kind of know what you're getting into with an early release from 1C. In terms of gameplay, rather than simulation the bar has moved up quite a bit since six years ago and that's one area that seems to lack any growth at all. What's a bit disappointing is that CoD probably won't bring many 'cross-over' players into this flight sim niche and really only serve those already here, which is a real missed opportunity for complex PC games like this.

#3272006 - 04/17/11 01:05 AM Re: Gamespot Review for CoD - Score: 4.0 [Re: devastat]  
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Metacritic is a good reviews sum up I tend to use. Interesting to see regional differences in scores smile

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/il-2-sturmovik-cliffs-of-dover

#3272028 - 04/17/11 01:42 AM Re: Gamespot Review for CoD - Score: 4.0 [Re: devastat]  
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Originally Posted By: devastat
It is actually really sad to read this as actually CoD is a really good game, they just reviewed it way too early :/
Edit: I should have wrote, they released it way too early.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/sim/il-2-sturmovik-cliffs-of-dover/review.html



It is sad, because this sim is getting better, with the patch. Also it will be really great if they continue to work on it. Lets hope so.

But dog gone it, this is what happens we you release something that is not finished. Didnt I tell you guys? Well no I didnt but others did. The Tree's and the Nugget's

and others were demonized as haters and trolls. What do i have to do to get it through Y'alls thick heads.. I guess I will have to pummel you into oblivion!

No I am not gonna do that. THis review is painful and I think this one and the other ones which will dump more horse manure on it will be enough.

Lets move on and continue to play it and help make it better... No dont look away! Stop shaking your head no.. It will get better. It will. tactical


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#3272053 - 04/17/11 02:21 AM Re: Gamespot Review for CoD - Score: 4.0 [Re: FearlessFrog]  
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Originally Posted By: FearlessFrog
It's a pretty good review. I've seen worse games get higher scores, but what the reviewer said seemed reasonable plus he actually played/reviewed the game on merit rather than emotion. Some of the user provided reviews there are pretty painful to read, lots of extremes too, i.e. 1/10 or 10/10 but not much in-between.

I think a lot of people who've played flight sims before know the background to IL2 and rightly or wrongly you do kind of know what you're getting into with an early release from 1C. In terms of gameplay, rather than simulation the bar has moved up quite a bit since six years ago and that's one area that seems to lack any growth at all. What's a bit disappointing is that CoD probably won't bring many 'cross-over' players into this flight sim niche and really only serve those already here, which is a real missed opportunity for complex PC games like this.



User reviews are worthless. You either get a 10 from people that like it or a 1 from those that don't. Take metacritic for example. User review starts this way:

Game is biggest disappointment in 2011. Keeps crashing on startup (launcher not responding). When it starts it is totally unplayable.


Yet he gives it an 8.

Really? The biggest disappointment in 2011 is an 8?

The gamespot review is pretty accurate, anything higher would be irresponsible even with the patches. They went a long way with performance, but not the other innumerable game stopping bugs. There's really too much broken in the game to remotely recommend it.

#3272067 - 04/17/11 02:34 AM Re: Gamespot Review for CoD - Score: 4.0 [Re: devastat]  
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A 4.0 was a good deal. They should have worked another year or 2 but I suppose the bills were stacking up and the gamers are more forgiving then the creditors

#3272078 - 04/17/11 02:49 AM Re: Gamespot Review for CoD - Score: 4.0 [Re: devastat]  
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Some noises sound as if they were sampled from lawnmowers rather than enormous airplane engines. Cannons sound more like bongo drums than they do actual cannons

....its this lack of attention to detail that made me wonder what had gone on the last 6 years of its development...sure now we are getting the rushed patches and other drastic fixes..and yes they do transform the game and make it very enjoyable..i love the sim to bits..but its a love hate relationship... and its still so full of stupid needless and dare i say unprofessional elements...like the crappy sounds ..in fact ALL the sounds are just terrible...why?...i do not now.......it just makes me wonder how so much effort can go into say the cockpits, with all their awesome details, and use lovely lighting and shading etc...then use rubbish sounds!..or crappy effects like the laser bullet tracers etc etc etc...its all so shabby in places...its that to me that defies understanding....

As much as i ahte bad reviews ..in a way am glad a recognised review site has exposed the charade of 'Storm of Dover'...or was it 'Cliffs of War'...hell who cares ....as long as the patches keep coming..then am sure the sales will be ok in the us of a....then we may see a future for this series... But Oleg and co have sure shot themselves in the foot with their stupidity and complacency....reviews like this will do nothing to boost sales..

#3272081 - 04/17/11 02:52 AM Re: Gamespot Review for CoD - Score: 4.0 [Re: swampthng]  
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Originally Posted By: swampthng
There's really too much broken in the game to remotely recommend it.


That's one Swampthing's opinion, my recomendation after about 100 hrs play time is, despite much being broken I recommend it

#3272086 - 04/17/11 02:56 AM Re: Gamespot Review for CoD - Score: 4.0 [Re: devastat]  
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It's not a time issue, or a "they released it too soon" issue.

It's been over half a decade in development. This should have been the greatest thing since sliced bread when it came out. The fact that after all that time, it's still have-baked, tells me the issue isn't the oven, it's the chef. This project was mismanaged, pure and simple.

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#3272087 - 04/17/11 02:57 AM Re: Gamespot Review for CoD - Score: 4.0 [Re: Daveb123]  
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Originally Posted By: Daveb123
..its this lack of attention to detail that made me wonder what had gone on the last 6 years of its development.


To me this seems ass backwards, there is amazing attention to detail, so much detail that they just can't keep up with it all.

#3272089 - 04/17/11 02:58 AM Re: Gamespot Review for CoD - Score: 4.0 [Re: devastat]  
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I never pay any attention to these"mainstream" game website reviews.I think that rewiev is probably spot on not taking the last patch into account but if this was Call of Duty or any other big studio game it would get 10 now matter how horrible it is

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#3272097 - 04/17/11 03:18 AM Re: Gamespot Review for CoD - Score: 4.0 [Re: catar]  
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Originally Posted By: catar
I never pay any attention to these"mainstream" game website reviews.I think that rewiev is probably spot on not taking the last patch into account but if this was Call of Duty or any other big studio game it would get 10 now matter how horrible it is


Thats not even close to true. Games that are great and umm playable get good review. Others, while they may be great games, if they're unplayable whats the point.

#3272098 - 04/17/11 03:20 AM Re: Gamespot Review for CoD - Score: 4.0 [Re: devastat]  
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Is Gamespot a USA site reviewing primarily for USA consumers?

If so, they should have waited for the USA release version. By reviewing the non-USA version, they mislead USA customers waiting for the USA version.

If they are not a USA site, then my comments don't count.


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Originally Posted By: Allen
Is Gamespot a USA site reviewing primarily for USA consumers?

If so, they should have waited for the USA release version. By reviewing the non-USA version, they mislead USA customers waiting for the USA version.

If they are not a USA site, then my comments don't count.


Yea Gamespot is headquarter in the US, San Francisco bay area I believe. It is a major gaming web site here in the US, dunno how much readership it receives other places.

It blows my mind how Oleg's baby turned out. I really don't understand what happened. I am not a huge WW2 flight sim fan, but I was looking forward to this as something too good to pass up, weren't we all? Now I am thinking maybe, if things go well, in a year or so I will consider it again. It is going to be a long hard pull for this sim, bad launches are tough to over come.

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