#3258886 - 04/04/11 06:22 AM
Collectors Edition, just a bit disapointed.
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I've not joined in the general hullabaloo about the various merits and demerits of CoD, because despite everything, I've waited ten years for it to arrive and it HAS to succeed, it's not as if there are loads of other WW II sims waiting in the background.
So with that said I have to confess that I am very disappointed with the Collectors Edition, not angry sad, just disappointed sad.
When it arrived it looked a pretty impressive box, I opened it up, it was nicely presented, the game, a ring bound manual, pilots notes and a cellophane wrapped map. On closer inspection however.
The worst offender, and the one thing that says everything I need to know, the map is utterly atrocious. I joked elsewhere that I was getting the version with the tea towel, well I was joking, Ubi wasn't. It's material would put a Hessian sandbag to shame, talk about rough. It isn't really edged so will (is) fraying. The printing though really takes the biscuit, bearing in mind it's very rough cloth, a tea towel would look distinctly regal in comparison, it's indistinct, blurred, names are badly positioned, it's even missing parts of names because the printing is so awful. To sum up, a complete waste of time, Ubi really just shouldn't have even bothered. A shiny paper map, with good printing and useful information would have been so much better, at least I might have been able to use it for some purpose other than wiping my bottom (don't you just love the rough stuff, takes me back to when I was errrrr, that enough Edit)
I can't comment on the ring bound manual, with the exception of a quick flick I haven't had a good look yet, but the Spitfire pilots notes, good grief. Again another example of poor shoddy lack of attention to detail production. I'll give them that it looks good at first glance BUT the profile on the front is not a Spit Mk 1 or 2 or even Vb, one of the pages has been printed twice, various spelling mistakes (granted they may have been in the original doc) and that's just to start. It just has all the signs of a really CHEAP job, I mean why oh why didn't they just have somebody from the flight sim/Il2 community proof read it, was it really that difficult ?????
So to sum up: The map is cheap and nasty (it gives cheap and nasty a bad name) Poor quality control, proof reading and technical understanding of the subject material.
As might have been described at the time as a "Rather poor show, old boy"
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#3258932 - 04/04/11 08:08 AM
Re: Collectors Edition, just a bit disapointed.
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In the std edition you get...
1 - a disc 2 - a piece of paper with the serial number on it.
That's it.
It doesn't have anything at all over the digital version unless you like collecting games boxes.
EV's are the Devils matchbox.
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#3258938 - 04/04/11 08:18 AM
Re: Collectors Edition, just a bit disapointed.
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In the std edition you get...
1 - a disc 2 - a piece of paper with the serial number on it.
That's it.
It doesn't have anything at all over the digital version unless you like collecting games boxes. ...or unless one has a cap on their broadband.
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#3258943 - 04/04/11 08:24 AM
Re: Collectors Edition, just a bit disapointed.
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What is the difference in price between the Collector's Ed and the standard? In the UK the standard edition is £30 or £35, the CE is £50. I'm so glad I resisted the (very minor) temptation.
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#3258946 - 04/04/11 08:29 AM
Re: Collectors Edition, just a bit disapointed.
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Sorry Flit,I misread your question.
EV's are the Devils matchbox.
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#3259038 - 04/04/11 11:04 AM
Re: Collectors Edition, just a bit disapointed.
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Standard version in continental Europe: €50. CE: €70
What Werner said: Glad I resisted the minor temptation.
However: It's not like the content of the CE was a big secret prior to release. I distinctly remember a lenghty youtube-video with some russian guy unpacking the CE and showing all its contents (including the tea-towel). In fact: The video reassured me in my decision *not* to buy the CE ...
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#3259044 - 04/04/11 11:12 AM
Re: Collectors Edition, just a bit disapointed.
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I've not joined in the general hullabaloo about the various merits and demerits of CoD, because despite everything, I've waited ten years for it to arrive and it HAS to succeed, it's not as if there are loads of other WW II sims waiting in the background.
So with that said I have to confess that I am very disappointed with the Collectors Edition, not angry sad, just disappointed sad.
When it arrived it looked a pretty impressive box, I opened it up, it was nicely presented, the game, a ring bound manual, pilots notes and a cellophane wrapped map. On closer inspection however.
The worst offender, and the one thing that says everything I need to know, the map is utterly atrocious. I joked elsewhere that I was getting the version with the tea towel, well I was joking, Ubi wasn't. It's material would put a Hessian sandbag to shame, talk about rough. It isn't really edged so will (is) fraying. The printing though really takes the biscuit, bearing in mind it's very rough cloth, a tea towel would look distinctly regal in comparison, it's indistinct, blurred, names are badly positioned, it's even missing parts of names because the printing is so awful. To sum up, a complete waste of time, Ubi really just shouldn't have even bothered. A shiny paper map, with good printing and useful information would have been so much better, at least I might have been able to use it for some purpose other than wiping my bottom (don't you just love the rough stuff, takes me back to when I was errrrr, that enough Edit)
I can't comment on the ring bound manual, with the exception of a quick flick I haven't had a good look yet, but the Spitfire pilots notes, good grief. Again another example of poor shoddy lack of attention to detail production. I'll give them that it looks good at first glance BUT the profile on the front is not a Spit Mk 1 or 2 or even Vb, one of the pages has been printed twice, various spelling mistakes (granted they may have been in the original doc) and that's just to start. It just has all the signs of a really CHEAP job, I mean why oh why didn't they just have somebody from the flight sim/Il2 community proof read it, was it really that difficult ?????
So to sum up: The map is cheap and nasty (it gives cheap and nasty a bad name) Poor quality control, proof reading and technical understanding of the subject material.
As might have been described at the time as a "Rather poor show, old boy" You have had the exact same experience as me Damocles, my tea towel was frayed to f*ck around the edges too, laughable material and printing quality as well as you say. The ring bound manual is fine. I think the spit handbook is too (not too bothered about the pic at the front, at least they got it right on the back lol). Have only read the Spit pilots notes start up procedure thus far, any syntax or spelling errors therein are the fault of Air Command/Council since its an exact replica. You seem more bothered than me about the map. I expected a tea towel, and got one. Maybe a slightly better quality tea towel, but still. Worst thing is, you couldn't even wipe your arse with it out of contempt Damocles, the friction would be too much to bear. Think Johnny Cash's 'Burning ring of fire', or an ascetic Monks idea of loo roll. Not good. But yes, a monumental waste of 58 quid altogether. Primary cause of this being the game itself actually (to date). But still, we endure. Looking forward to this weeks patch.
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#3259162 - 04/04/11 01:15 PM
Re: Collectors Edition, just a bit disapointed.
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Personally I thought it was all great and well worth the extra £15/20 over other editions.
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#3259167 - 04/04/11 01:22 PM
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I ordered my CE from Amazon.de initially for 69€, later the price dropped to 66€, and last week I got a refund of 8.50€ because apparently the price got changed again, so in the end paid ~57.50€ for the CE. For that price I'm quite content with what I got.
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#3259170 - 04/04/11 01:24 PM
Re: Collectors Edition, just a bit disapointed.
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I am afraid this was symptomatic of the lack of QA put into the final stages of this project. On the tea towel Rochford is listed as "Sounthend" (could not even spell the modern name correctly ). Saying that. I totally understand this was a smallish team (by other developers standards) and it seems they were under intense pressure to get this out the door - what with the delays and everything. I am glad we got something.
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#3259172 - 04/04/11 01:25 PM
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Personally I thought it was all great and well worth the extra £15/20 over other editions. Really? For a "map" that's not very legible and fraying right from the start? Is the manual just that good that it makes up for the other short comings? I was thinking of buying this version, if it ever appears on our shores but after reading this thread I'm doubting I will.
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#3259186 - 04/04/11 01:43 PM
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I ordered my CE from Amazon.de initially for 69€, later the price dropped to 66€, and last week I got a refund of 8.50€ because apparently the price got changed again, so in the end paid ~57.50€ for the CE. For that price I'm quite content with what I got.
This is nuts... this morning the CE was only € 42 !! -- cheaper than the Standard which was 44 I believe. Now though it's all back to € 67/50. WTF?
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#3259218 - 04/04/11 02:08 PM
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Personally I thought it was all great and well worth the extra £15/20 over other editions. Really? For a "map" that's not very legible and fraying right from the start? Is the manual just that good that it makes up for the other short comings? I was thinking of buying this version, if it ever appears on our shores but after reading this thread I'm doubting I will. It's almost perfectly ligible (maybe three red names are hard to read) and reminds me very much of my Grandfathers maps from his time in the RAF as I do not recall them being of much better quality. The ring bound manual is great and the Spitfire manual too, the whole box is very satisfying in my eyes.
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#3259281 - 04/04/11 02:52 PM
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Thanks for the added replies! I would like to get the CE but Damocles post made me hesitant.
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#3261172 - 04/06/11 01:54 AM
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Just to mention, the box features a later war camouflage scheme of grey and green with later war roundels, not BoB at all so for thats sloppy to start with ! It left me dubious over the contents from just seeing that ! Claims of a Spitfire Mk1 pilots notes when there are none existing also made me wary. Also why a cloth map at all, cloth maps were escape maps, a later war thing (goes with the box cover though !), BoB pilots used paper maps that folded away into a brown card outer cover. There were also coverless ones. Both were stout paper with a coarse mesh linen backing. The CE side of things could have been handed over to a graphics bureau who were told to replicate the Spit ll pilots notes (available on ebay) or from Hendon, acquire and duplicate a South East England RAF Air Ministry map, (ebay or Hendon again) and create a box camo pattern that matched the aircraft in the sim. No time required for the guys and gals (are there any) working on the sim itself. This sim has traits of marketing claims and no substance in places, basic things like performance, accurate cockpits, tracer and engine sounds, flying kit and airfields should have been focused on over and above adding matadors and tanks to a landscape, things we wouldnt miss.
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#3261330 - 04/06/11 05:54 AM
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I think you guys are grossly overestimating how much Ubi cared about the CE. The idea was to get you to buy a higher profit margin CE, and to increase the "prestige" of the title in general. You bought it, so mission accomplished for ubi.
As a side note "frayed around the edges" is the best way to describe the current state of the software contained within said CE.
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#3261368 - 04/06/11 07:41 AM
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Just to mention, the box features a later war camouflage scheme of grey and green with later war roundels, not BoB at all so for thats sloppy to start with ! It's not called BoB anymore It left me dubious over the contents from just seeing that ! Claims of a Spitfire Mk1 pilots notes when there are none existing also made me wary. Also why a cloth map at all, cloth maps were escape maps, a later war thing (goes with the box cover though !), BoB pilots used paper maps that folded away into a brown card outer cover. It quite clearly states it's a replica escape map, not sure why you were expecting anything other than what you got.
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