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#3245833 - 03/25/11 07:45 PM Re: Luthier posts on 1C forums about EFFIT [Re: 777 Studios - Jason]  
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Originally Posted By: 777 Studios - Jason
Rise of Flight = Epilepsy Filter Free since 2009


But here's what I see when I try and fly my beautiful new DFW - am I normal duck ?



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#3245834 - 03/25/11 07:45 PM Re: Luthier posts on 1C forums about EFFIT [Re: msalama]  
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Originally Posted By: msalama
OK, explain me this. Maddox et. al. have an epileptic filter in their new sim, but ED has recently released 2 titles without any such FPS-crippling hindrances. How come?

PS. And no, I'm not being snarky. Just curious.


A warning on the box is all that's necessary or the usual health guidelines in the instructions. This is convenient excuse for poor code. There is no e-filter.

Some people can see through the smoke, others can't.

Come on people! It's BS.


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#3245839 - 03/25/11 07:47 PM Re: Luthier posts on 1C forums about EFFIT [Re: 2005AD]  
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Yah, but if it's not a legal requirement then I can't see a reason for UBI to demand its inclusion. And if UBI didn't, then why on earth did they include it as a mandatory hindrance for all us Westerners?

Something just doesn't add up IMO.

EDIT: Yah, being a bit slow here with my replies, what GloDark said is more or less what I'm thinking too...

#3245841 - 03/25/11 07:48 PM Re: Luthier posts on 1C forums about EFFIT [Re: 2005AD]  
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If the performance is that bad, I will not buy the game. I won't spend $50+ to get a game, only to have to wait 3-4 years until I can even run it. IL-2 1946 runs awful as it is.

It should be an option. I do not suffer from this issue, so I should be able to disable it from the graphics options menu.

#3245855 - 03/25/11 07:53 PM Re: Luthier posts on 1C forums about EFFIT [Re: Matt]  
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Originally Posted By: Matt
How about an opt-out EULA stating that UBI and 1C are absolved of any lawsuits per injuries if the wrapper is disabled? Hell, if bungee jumping companies can do the same sort of thing, surely a video game company can.

This is like saying everyone needs to do chemo treatments forever cause you may have or sometime develop cancer in your life. Of course, I am being facetious in a way, but c'mon.


I'd agree with you there but some lawyer somewhere would argue that somebody other than the purchaser and installer of the game might walk by, look at the screen and be adversely affected by it. They never had the chance to "opt out" and so suffered do to the "ill programed" product. Meanwhile the 'victim' probably smokes 12 packs of cigs a day. /sigh Gotta love lawyers.

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#3246135 - 03/25/11 11:18 PM Re: Luthier posts on 1C forums about EFFIT [Re: 2005AD]  
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Its not JUST the performance! Its PERMANENT (something that cant be tinkered from .ini) crippling of features!

Do you love INVISIBLE propellers when viewed from inside of your 109/Hurri? Do you LOVE barely rotating (but really full speed) propellers in external views? No, me neither!

Propellers in ROF are work of art, sadly they are "epilepsy danger" and we wont see anything like them in new IL2. And this is just the ONE feature that is already matched to UBi's epilepsy spec- of course its nothing to do with them (sarcasm).

Ilya only said what he had to say, inside he is seething with frustration and anger at dumb people following black and white rules!!!

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#3246181 - 03/25/11 11:56 PM Re: Luthier posts on 1C forums about EFFIT [Re: Borsch]  
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Originally Posted By: Borsch
Its not JUST the performance! Its PERMANENT (something that cant be tinkered from .ini) crippling of features!

Do you love INVISIBLE propellers when viewed from inside of your 109/Hurri? Do you LOVE barely rotating (but really full speed) propellers in external views? No, me neither!

Propellers in ROF are work of art, sadly they are "epilepsy danger" and we wont see anything like them in new IL2. And this is just the ONE feature that is already matched to UBi's epilepsy spec- of course its nothing to do with them (sarcasm).

Ilya only said what he had to say, inside he is seething with frustration and anger at dumb people following black and white rules!!!


Oh, hang on, I'm good at these. Hmmm. The answer is:

JUST PERMANENT INVISIBLE LOVE ROF ONE !!!

What do I win? smile

#3246187 - 03/26/11 12:00 AM Re: Luthier posts on 1C forums about EFFIT [Re: 2005AD]  
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This has got to be one of the most asinine things I have ever heard of. I must really be out of the video game loop because I've never heard of this so called Epilepsy filter BS, as a matter of fact, I almost thought this must be some kind of a joke. Wander what other silly actions will be taken in future game releases. Cuss

#3246213 - 03/26/11 12:24 AM Re: Luthier posts on 1C forums about EFFIT [Re: 2005AD]  
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EFFIT ...Fit. I can't stand that word. That's something the wife has.

#3246219 - 03/26/11 12:26 AM Re: Luthier posts on 1C forums about EFFIT [Re: 2005AD]  
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EFFIT is the new securom hate. Ubi is a poisonous entity.


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#3246276 - 03/26/11 01:06 AM Re: Luthier posts on 1C forums about EFFIT [Re: 2005AD]  
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It's all just a cunning ploy to divert attention away from the need to have Steam installed with a disc version! popcorn


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#3246301 - 03/26/11 01:23 AM Re: Luthier post on 1C forums about EFFIT [Re: Bard]  
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Originally Posted By: Bard
OK, so it's a realtime frame by frame analyser through a wrapper?

Shouldn't be too hard to hack out - switch the dll(s) responsible for the analysis out with one that simply does nothing but accept the call and passes whatever equates to 'ok' back.

Or replace the dll that includes the call to the wrapper in the first place with one from the beta.





If you knew what you were talking about it would make sense wink

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