Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
Hop To
Page 3 of 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
#3243962 - 03/24/11 05:06 PM Re: Russian version - It's out. [Re: Sim]  
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,121
sascha Offline
Member
sascha  Offline
Member

Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,121
Munich, Germany
As posted before: Capturing with Fraps eats FPS like crazy. Plus: Usually Fraps is set to capture at a specific framerate. I used around 30 when I captured stuff back in the day, and once Fraps was "filming", the FPS counter would drop to ... 30 (or lower, if it was a HW-hungry game).

So I wouldn't deduce anything from the performance and/or FPS-counter in a captured video.

I remember capturing a video of a beta-version of Dark Messiah of M&M which was kinda choppy. Without Fraps the beta was smooth and playable, with Fraps on, not so much. Almost didn't get permission to publish the video, since the guys at Ubisoft were understandably worried it might send the wrong message.

The only way that I'm aware of to capture video without that FPS-hit would be to feed the video-/audio-signals directly to an external VCR. That's how it was done in the olden days, before stuff like Fraps existed.


God, still another week to wait and he's feeding us a 109 in RAF-markings ... argh! biggrin



S.

Last edited by sascha; 03/24/11 05:22 PM.

System: Asus P5Q-E - Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300@ 2.5 GHz (currently @3.0 GHz) - Gigabyte GF GTX460 1GB OC - 2x2 GB OCZ DDR2-RAM - Samsung P2370 23'' - MS Sidewinder 2 FF (red trigger, baby!) - Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals - TrackIR 5 + Pro-Clip - Windows Vista 64 Home Premium
Inline advert (2nd and 3rd post)

#3243963 - 03/24/11 05:06 PM Re: Russian version - It's out. [Re: Aces High 2]  
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 5,943
knightgames Offline
Hotshot
knightgames  Offline
Hotshot

Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 5,943
MA
Originally Posted By: Aces High 2
Except it's a Bf-110 smile



LOL. Engage shifter before pressing gas, knightgames. D'oh. I knew that, just didn't pay attention. Thanks anyway, Aces High.

#3243965 - 03/24/11 05:06 PM Re: Russian version - It's out. [Re: FearlessFrog]  
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 13,364
Freycinet Offline
Veteran
Freycinet  Offline
Veteran

Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 13,364
Originally Posted By: FearlessFrog
Originally Posted By: Freycinet

You don't know his settings or his computer.


Luckily we do - it's posted under each video:

Win7 x64, Core2Quad Q9500@3.4GHz, Radeon HD 4890 (1280x1024, Catalyst 10.11), 2048x3 DDR2

Perhaps it's a FRAPs thing causing the slow down?


And his game settings?


My Il-2 CoD movie web site: www.flightsimvids.com
#3243970 - 03/24/11 05:10 PM Re: Russian version - It's out. [Re: Sim]  
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 210
MattM Offline
Member
MattM  Offline
Member

Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 210
Maximum. Just read the comments in the description of the videos.

So performance-wise, that's still OK imho. I have the same CPU and a GTX 460 and i didn't expect to run CloD at maximum settings. Can't run ROF at maximum settings either.


What's not OK though, are the IL2 '46 sounds. Atleast they only used those for the exterior view...

Last edited by MattM; 03/24/11 05:13 PM.
#3243972 - 03/24/11 05:11 PM Re: Russian version - It's out. [Re: Sim]  
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 13,364
Freycinet Offline
Veteran
Freycinet  Offline
Veteran

Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 13,364
Short vid of contrail from Vaal:



Oh, yes, and he did the vids while on maximum settings:

"Maximum graphics settings, difficulty - on avtoupravlenie engine well, and types of external"

http://translate.google.com/translate?js...3D2&act=url


My Il-2 CoD movie web site: www.flightsimvids.com
#3243973 - 03/24/11 05:11 PM Re: Russian version - It's out. [Re: Sim]  
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 183
catar Offline
Member
catar  Offline
Member

Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 183
Perth Western Australia
Thing is there is so many unknown.What are his ingame graphics settings?Is he usinf FRAPS or some other capture program like Playclaw?Is he recording while he is flying or records ingame demo and then takes the video with FRAPS? By looking at sukhoi forums there is few ppl who are having problems with install/prformance of the game but it's still early days and we will know when the masses in Russia install and test the game properly

#3243974 - 03/24/11 05:12 PM Re: Russian version - It's out. [Re: Sim]  
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 13,364
Freycinet Offline
Veteran
Freycinet  Offline
Veteran

Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 13,364
Yes, found it, max settings. Probably a bit optimistic with his rig...


My Il-2 CoD movie web site: www.flightsimvids.com
#3243975 - 03/24/11 05:14 PM Re: Russian version - It's out. [Re: Sim]  
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,121
sascha Offline
Member
sascha  Offline
Member

Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,121
Munich, Germany
Quote:
Well so much for the canned sounds lol



External sounds seem to be from IL-2 IMO. The new in-cockpit-sounds are awesome though ... love the airframe moaning when he pulls out of that vertical dive...


Hmm.. seeing his system specs suddenly fills me with lots of hope for how my rig will run CoD ... smile


S.

Last edited by sascha; 03/24/11 05:16 PM.

System: Asus P5Q-E - Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300@ 2.5 GHz (currently @3.0 GHz) - Gigabyte GF GTX460 1GB OC - 2x2 GB OCZ DDR2-RAM - Samsung P2370 23'' - MS Sidewinder 2 FF (red trigger, baby!) - Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals - TrackIR 5 + Pro-Clip - Windows Vista 64 Home Premium
#3243976 - 03/24/11 05:15 PM Re: Russian version - It's out. [Re: catar]  
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,737
FearlessFrog Offline
Senior Member
FearlessFrog  Offline
Senior Member

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,737
Originally Posted By: catar
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=67803&page=2

Just use Google translator.Feedback from lucky owners of IL-2


Some good info in there. Although according to their reports of FPS they all seem to be running FRAPs inadvertently too? smile

Steady men - it's early days. It could be a Quantum-like simulator, a Schrödinger's Spit, in that it's only when observed that FPS may struggle over land - try looking away and it gets faster.

There seems to be a day-0 performance patch via Steam on the Russian release - that'll put the cat among the pigeons for those wanting steamless SP?

Exciting stuff.

#3243978 - 03/24/11 05:18 PM Re: Russian version - It's out. [Re: Sim]  
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 788
NattyIced Offline
Member
NattyIced  Offline
Member

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 788
If using FRAPS with the sole purpose of measuring FPS, there shouldn't be an impact in performance. It's when you use it to capture the audio/video that things get messy.

#3243979 - 03/24/11 05:19 PM Re: Russian version - It's out. [Re: Sim]  
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 92
Capt_Hook Offline
Junior Member
Capt_Hook  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 92
I do truly hope the sounds are better than '46 stock. I just installed HSFX 5 yesterday, and sounds are excellent... really shows the gap with stock.

Hopefully the sounds are as good as what the community is freely providing for '46. And if not, hopefully the HSFX team will be fixing it ASAP after release. ;-)

It's truly a pain that the NA release date is so far behind.


Hardware: Asus Sabertooth Z87 - Intel 4670K @ 4.4 - 16GB RAM - EVGA Titan - Old Asus 26" 19x12 LCD - bunch of drives.

Sim Toys: Warthog - 8cm Simpit Hog extension - TIR5 - CH Quadrant - Slaw Device rudder pedals - Obutto R3v
#3243994 - 03/24/11 05:30 PM Re: Russian version - It's out. [Re: Sim]  
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 902
2005AD Offline
Member
2005AD  Offline
Member

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 902
It looks good for FPS to be honest given his rig and the fact he is using full detail and FRAPS to capture the video. The engine sounds are abysmal, straight from IL2 and just as crap.

#3244023 - 03/24/11 05:53 PM Re: Russian version - It's out. [Re: 2005AD]  
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 606
nuggetx Offline
Member
nuggetx  Offline
Member

Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 606
External sounds are the atrocious ones from IL2 , I'm numb with horror of the 109 outside sound. sicko

#3244027 - 03/24/11 05:55 PM Re: Russian version - It's out. [Re: Sim]  
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 5,943
knightgames Offline
Hotshot
knightgames  Offline
Hotshot

Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 5,943
MA
Isn't there some sort of in game frame counter like in IL2?

#3244043 - 03/24/11 06:04 PM Re: Russian version - It's out. [Re: Sim]  
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,737
FearlessFrog Offline
Senior Member
FearlessFrog  Offline
Senior Member

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,737
You can see the FRAPS frame counter in the top left (yellow) - locked at 31 which is the recording setting.

Here's the game on low settings, same hardware as before:


#3244048 - 03/24/11 06:06 PM Re: Russian version - It's out. [Re: Sim]  
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 322
Lixma Offline
Member
Lixma  Offline
Member

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 322
Londinium
Potemkin trees in the latest vid.


Last edited by Lixma; 03/24/11 06:07 PM.
#3244061 - 03/24/11 06:12 PM Re: Russian version - It's out. [Re: knightgames]  
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,737
FearlessFrog Offline
Senior Member
FearlessFrog  Offline
Senior Member

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,737
Originally Posted By: knightgames
Isn't there some sort of in game frame counter like in IL2?


Yes - it's the one in the top center, with avg, min, max listed after it. The FRAPS one is usually on the left with a 'digital' like font.

The debate is now that the video capture program (FRAPS) is impacting performance a lot, or that his settings are too high for his hardware (quad core @3.6, 6GB ram) or that this isn't the real release just yet and it's a RoF fan trolling. An ATI 4890 (*) is a pretty quick DX9 card, so it does look like the game for high settings will (until optimized through patches, with the rumor being a huge one is ready for today even etc) require quite a beefy setup to get playable.

Tomorrow's Oleg video update should really put all these questions to rest.

(*) If you are wondering how your card compares to the one in the video then this will help

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

Basic summary is that you will see better performance if you have > GTX460 or > ATI5850 otherwise more or less the same.

Plus, to repeat to appease, there are obviously patches coming and other possible circumstances we might not know...

Last edited by FearlessFrog; 03/24/11 06:23 PM. Reason: Video cards
#3244067 - 03/24/11 06:18 PM Re: Russian version - It's out. [Re: Sim]  
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 149
Highfox Offline
Member
Highfox  Offline
Member

Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 149
Finland
I don't mind most of what I'm seeing.
They are saying over in the Bannana forum that at midnight Ruskie time a 500mb patch will be released.
Maybe some more optomizing and sounds.

#3244069 - 03/24/11 06:18 PM Re: Russian version - It's out. [Re: Sim]  
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 9,581
Sim Offline
Hotshot
Sim  Offline
Hotshot

Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 9,581
DCS A10 trees... I can live with that... ROF trees would be better.

#3244072 - 03/24/11 06:22 PM Re: Russian version - It's out. [Re: Sim]  
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,771
Para_Bellum Offline
Oberkriegkaboomführer
Para_Bellum  Offline
Oberkriegkaboomführer
Hotshot

Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,771
Germany
I remember that when recording IL2 videos with FRAPS FPS would usually drop by about 30-50% on my system. I used to record at half speed to get better performance and then used a video editing program to double the speed again because of this. FRAPS does cause a performance hit, although it really depends on your system exactly how much.


"...late afternoon the Air Tasking Order came in [and] we found the A-10 part and we said, "We are going where!? We are doing what!?"

Capt. Todd Sheehy, Hog pilot, on receiving orders during Operation Desert Storm

Page 3 of 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

Moderated by  RacerGT 

Quick Search
Recent Articles
Support SimHQ

If you shop on Amazon use this Amazon link to support SimHQ
.
Social


Recent Topics
Actors portraying US Presidents
by PanzerMeyer. 04/19/24 12:19 PM
Dickey Betts was 80
by Rick_Rawlings. 04/19/24 01:11 AM
Exodus
by RedOneAlpha. 04/18/24 05:46 PM
Grumman Wildcat unique landing gear
by Coot. 04/17/24 03:54 PM
Peter Higgs was 94
by Rick_Rawlings. 04/17/24 12:28 AM
Whitey Herzog was 92
by F4UDash4. 04/16/24 04:41 PM
Anyone can tell me what this is?
by NoFlyBoy. 04/16/24 04:10 PM
10 Years ago MV Sewol
by wormfood. 04/15/24 08:25 PM
Pride Of Jenni race win
by NoFlyBoy. 04/15/24 12:22 AM
It's Friday: grown up humor for the weekend.
by NoFlyBoy. 04/12/24 01:41 PM
Copyright 1997-2016, SimHQ Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0