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#3619300 - 08/03/12 08:01 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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Back to Tu-154 yet :-)

I have been given two interesting links by user halmiso (he also sends greeting to Hpasp :-)) at forum.fortifikace.net (czech army forum).

The first one:
http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/73/115686-50.html
firs on 15.8.2001 at 1:50

The second one:
zn.ua/POLITICS/tu-154__sekretnaya_hronika_pozora-36645.html

To me it is still unclear, because I have seen the launch photo - they fired at a close target, so missile should fly with program I (near target).

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#3619305 - 08/03/12 08:06 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]  
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Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd

This makes sense - the closer to target, the more precision is needed.


But it doesn't change the speed does it? Probably the way google earth calculated the speed creates this error...

Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd

I have seen a graph of K1 and K2 commands at Neva system - from launch to hit. As the missile gets closer, frequency of commands dramatically increases.


Why it is not shared yet, soldier?!? wink

#3619307 - 08/03/12 08:22 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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Bacuse I have to find it yet :-)

#3619309 - 08/03/12 08:24 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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The KRUG low altitude bug is found, the correction will be in the next version.
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To me it is still unclear, because I have seen the launch photo - they fired at a close target, so missile should fly with program I (near target).

That photo is made during IFF check, not during launch.

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#3619324 - 08/03/12 09:07 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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The KRUG low altitude bug is found, the correction will be in the next version.

This is great! thumbsup

I even started to analyze missile path near launcher against different altitude targets due this issue.


edit; does Krug practice mode FK work? If so, then how to use it?

#3619332 - 08/03/12 09:54 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: montieris]  
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Originally Posted By: montieris

edit; does Krug practice mode FK work? If so, then how to use it?


No it only works with the Volhov.


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(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
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#3619336 - 08/03/12 10:19 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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As missile is getting to the vicinity of its target, commands are sent with a higher frequency - at the beginning it is quite a flat curve, then the peaks get denser and denser.


#3619338 - 08/03/12 10:29 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]  
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Nice software.... Could you share a link?

#3619339 - 08/03/12 10:30 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
The KRUG low altitude bug is found, the correction will be in the next version.
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What was this bug? Could you explain if you don't mind?

#3619341 - 08/03/12 10:47 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: piston79]  
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Originally Posted By: piston79
Nice software.... Could you share a link?

If I had it, I would share :-)

I think it is called VSI.

#3619376 - 08/03/12 12:19 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: piston79]  
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No. Google Earth displays the graph with the wrong 'scale' values displayed - nowt to do with SAMSIM - look at the point value of speed, and compare to the range of values on the graph's scale - usually a large discrepancy. Bug posted ages ago on their bug tracker, no reply, comment or action since that I am aware of.

#3619377 - 08/03/12 12:20 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]  
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Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
Back to Tu-154 yet :-)

I have been given two interesting links by user halmiso (he also sends greeting to Hpasp :-)) at forum.fortifikace.net (czech army forum).

The first one:
http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/73/115686-50.html
firs on 15.8.2001 at 1:50

The second one:
zn.ua/POLITICS/tu-154__sekretnaya_hronika_pozora-36645.html

To me it is still unclear, because I have seen the launch photo - they fired at a close target, so missile should fly with program I (near target).


"The Launch Photo"? or "A launch photo"?

#3619401 - 08/03/12 01:10 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Lieste]  
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Originally Posted By: Lieste
[/quote] "The Launch Photo"? or "A launch photo"?

The launch photo.
But I was mislead by Hpasp's expression - they even have a launch photo. But it was only a NRZ (IFF) photo. Also clarified by Hpasp

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#3619455 - 08/03/12 02:23 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]  
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Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
Back to Tu-154 yet :-)

I have been given two interesting links by user halmiso (he also sends greeting to Hpasp :-)) at forum.fortifikace.net (czech army forum).

The first one:
http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/73/115686-50.html
firs on 15.8.2001 at 1:50

The second one:
zn.ua/POLITICS/tu-154__sekretnaya_hronika_pozora-36645.html

To me it is still unclear, because I have seen the launch photo - they fired at a close target, so missile should fly with program I (near target).


Hi,
in the documents about the case, there were some statement about imposibility of S-200 to hit at all (angle of approach, radiofuse and so on - this ukrainian kills me...
I don't get what in the first link should see about?

#3619513 - 08/03/12 03:42 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: piston79]  
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Originally Posted By: piston79
[quote=Alien_MasterMynd]
The first one:
http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/73/115686-50.html
firs on 15.8.2001 at 1:50

I don't get what in the first link should see about?


User firs at given date and time :-) s-200 theory is also suspicious to me. But we obviously have too little information :-(

#3619543 - 08/03/12 04:23 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: piston79]  
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Originally Posted By: piston79
Originally Posted By: Hpasp
The KRUG low altitude bug is found, the correction will be in the next version.
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What was this bug? Could you explain if you don't mind?


There is a so called "weight maneuvering limitation" for each missile type.
While it is available for the Volhov/Dvina/Neva missiles from firing range materials, with the KRUG it was just approximated. (wrongly)


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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

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http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3619545 - 08/03/12 04:25 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Lieste]  
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Originally Posted By: Lieste
No. Google Earth displays the graph with the wrong 'scale' values displayed - nowt to do with SAMSIM - look at the point value of speed, and compare to the range of values on the graph's scale - usually a large discrepancy. Bug posted ages ago on their bug tracker, no reply, comment or action since that I am aware of.


Bug in the Google Earth software.

SAMSIM only sends coordinates and timestamps.

Google is calculating the speed from these...
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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3619681 - 08/03/12 07:07 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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Hello,

I'm new to this forum and a newly french fan of this simulator.

As there was no page on Facebook about this simulator, I've just created one, it's called "SAM Simulator".
Fell free to come in and add some news there!

Thanks!

#3619793 - 08/03/12 10:01 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Cript]  
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Originally Posted By: Cript
Hello,

I'm new to this forum and a newly french fan of this simulator.

As there was no page on Facebook about this simulator, I've just created one, it's called "SAM Simulator".
Fell free to come in and add some news there!

Thanks!


Hi and welcome Cript
Enjoy Your stay on SimHQ!

#3620065 - 08/04/12 01:36 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Cript]  
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Originally Posted By: Cript
Hello,

I'm new to this forum and a newly french fan of this simulator.

As there was no page on Facebook about this simulator, I've just created one, it's called "SAM Simulator".
Fell free to come in and add some news there!

Thanks!


WELCOME!


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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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