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#3197334 - 02/03/11 03:17 PM Re: Please show off your pit. ***** [Re: Derk]  
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Guys who can help! Looking for photos and diagrams of the real mechanism of pedals Bf109g ... . As for my drawings. Maybe there is a technical description for aircraft maintenance?

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#3197362 - 02/03/11 03:45 PM Re: Please show off your pit. [Re: Derk]  
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Hi Baur,

Couldn't find drawings, but I did find some good pictures here:

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/walkaround/10639/10639.htm

Hope these help,

Andy


Andy's simpit: http://www.simpit.me.uk
#3197378 - 02/03/11 04:03 PM Re: Please show off your pit. [Re: Derk]  
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Thanks Andy! This is going to help. But the most interesting part for me is under the gun. This is a central part of the mechanism.
When moving the pedals, they get a bit are not parallel. I think German designers have thought through human anatomy for good governance.

#3197719 - 02/03/11 09:46 PM Re: Please show off your pit. [Re: Derk]  
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Bauer,

Nice work in your pit!

Seems that 109 pedal work as parallelogram, not different under cannon breech in this picture:

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/walkaround/410077/410077as-37.JPG



Look at pag. 24 of this Bf-109 F1 manual:

http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/archiv/...0Mai%201941.pdf

Sokol1

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#3199388 - 02/05/11 03:47 PM Re: Please show off your pit. [Re: Sokol1]  
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Sokol1, many thanks! This is what you need! Where you can take those instructions? You do not just have rescued the guys. I noticed it smile
Originally Posted By: Sokol1
Bauer,

Nice work in your pit!
BAUR smile

#3200809 - 02/07/11 10:34 AM Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle [Re: Derk]  
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Ok, I have been flying sims for at least 10 years, having started on A-10 Attack! on a Mac, way back when. So it was about time I made myself a little more comfortable, and perhaps a better flyer, with some basic cockpit functionality. Attached is my very simple, very cheap, take off of a few designs floating around the web. Picture 1 is a side mount config, 2 a centre config and 3 is a more detailed view of the stand.

Note my "poor man's throttle": A second mouse with the scroll wheel mapped to throttle, which gives much finer control than the joystick throttle, and +/- trim mapped to the mouse buttons. I haven't seen this idea before so maybe it is a first! I hope it helps others who don't have the "whole shootin' match" of sim pits and flight controllers. You can also use the mouse to control head movement better than the old hat switch.

Still to come:

  • Purpose build stand for the poor man's throttle.
  • A big monitor or multiple monitors
  • Pedals
  • Pilot's chair (second hand car seat)







Enjoy!!

#3200839 - 02/07/11 12:26 PM Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle [Re: Derk]  
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Rebuild of my pit
Before:
After:

#3203179 - 02/09/11 05:34 PM Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle [Re: Derk]  
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Very cool Jas, I would like to hear/see more of your panels, especially the push/pull throttle/mixture controls. What kind of controller board did you use to interface?

Last edited by HitchHikingFlatlander; 02/09/11 05:35 PM.

I've got a bad feeling about this.....
#3205664 - 02/12/11 01:46 AM Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle [Re: Derk]  
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HitchHiking, Here are a few more pics:
This pit was made with parts from Desktop Aviator, Saitek rudder peddles,yoke,throttle quadrant,,radio panel,control panel and Thrustmaster Warthog modded with Metalnwood's joystick extension.

Last edited by Jas452; 02/12/11 01:51 AM.
#3205924 - 02/12/11 01:25 PM Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle [Re: Derk]  
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I like the warthog extension. I saw Metalnwoods post in the controller forum. Looks very good action there. Shame I haven't got a warthog and that Metalnwood only had a limited run on them. I could see them being very popular once the Warthog is a little more established

#3206003 - 02/12/11 04:03 PM Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle [Re: Derk]  
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Yes, The Warthog extension was a great buy Brigstock. Do you own a Cougar? Works with that also. HitchHiking, I used Desktop Aviators 2095 rotary encorder circuit board with 4 slide potentiometer for the push/pull throttle, mixture,prop pitch, cowl flaps controls. On the same board I wired 12 push button switches and 10 rotory encorder switches. That's the complete panel on the right. The left panel I wired 20 single throw single pole swithches to Desktop Aviators 2120 board and 10 single throw double pole switches to 2160 board. Next part of the project will be an overhead panel with 15 lighted push button switches.

#3208502 - 02/15/11 06:25 PM Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle [Re: Derk]  
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OiOi Brigstock!

just I got metalnwoods extention adaptors for my cougar, nice piece of work

when I retrofit to my bent extention i'll post pics



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#3208640 - 02/15/11 09:04 PM Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle [Re: Derk]  
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Too much free time and money in your house ....git :p

#3227680 - 03/08/11 01:40 AM Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle [Re: Derk]  
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Too much free time and money in your house ....git :p


I didn't know there was a such thing!

smile

#3232491 - 03/12/11 04:50 PM Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle [Re: Derk]  
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So here is my F16 Block 52 Pit (still building).

;

Old movie...




Greetings Martin (ULT)

Visit me also on viperpits.org
My pit build threat : http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=2092.0

#3232517 - 03/12/11 05:14 PM Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle [Re: Derk]  
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Nicely done Ulti! GREAT First Post thanks for the view!


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#3232534 - 03/12/11 05:34 PM Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle [Re: Derk]  
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That´s what I call "fantastic cockpit".
Great work, Ulti


The first time I saw Chuck Yeager, I shot him down.
Petrosillius Zwacklmann ( Held ).

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#3236733 - 03/17/11 04:54 PM Re: Please show off your pit. [Re: Derk]  
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Here is my reincarnated F/A 18E pit. Front intr panels shown is sub panel . Will have lexan panes that will have my backlit up front controller and 3 MFD's backlit as well untill some one writes a program for LCD's for FSX.


#3271140 - 04/15/11 08:02 PM Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle [Re: Ahalin]  
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Dude I luv your design, simple and effective. Please may I have the dimensions, tube lengths etc.

#3271744 - 04/16/11 03:54 PM Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle [Re: Derk]  
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