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#3107173 - 10/04/10 07:00 PM Re: Where did Frugals go?? [Re: Aeyes]  
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#3107728 - 10/05/10 02:59 PM Re: Where did Frugals go?? [Re: SlapStik]  
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I miss Delphi. the classic Mower and Raptor debates. lol

I miss frugals also, and all my alias. LOL

#3107771 - 10/05/10 04:06 PM Re: Where did Frugals go?? [Re: Aeyes]  
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Originally Posted By: Aeyes
Originally Posted By: lamurt
Originally Posted By: Red_Ant
Originally Posted By: Aeyes
Originally Posted By: Retro
Well.. there was delphi.. then combatsim.. then frugalsworld.. it's the people, not the forum


You..oldtimer old_simmer WinkNGrin


Ah, I remember those times, too. smile I feel so old ... lol.


shame on you lot for not mentioning f4c...


Yeah F4C, too bad it was attacked by some vicious trojan that made everyone stay away.
For the brave: http://web.archive.org/web/20031124232914/www.f4community.com/

Trip down to memorylane, F4UT at oct 2001: http://web.archive.org/web/20011012153216/http://f4ut.frugalsworld.com/ and feb 2005: http://web.archive.org/web/20050203152212/http://www.f4ut.frugalsworld.com/

Falcon40.com at 2000 : http://web.archive.org/web/20000816000923/http://www.falcon40.com/
2004: http://web.archive.org/web/20010419070711/http://www1.falcon40.com/

G2I at 2001: http://web.archive.org/web/20010518102313rn_1/www.g2interactive.com/

F4HQ 2003: http://web.archive.org/web/20031207095439/www.simmersworld.com/default.php?page=default


http://web.archive.org/web/20031207095439/www.simmersworld.com/default.php?page=default


good times... cheers

#3107823 - 10/05/10 04:56 PM Re: Where did Frugals go?? [Re: Aeyes]  
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#3109669 - 10/07/10 08:32 PM Re: Where did Frugals go?? [Re: SlapStik]  
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Nice one - even tried to sign in smile


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#3113433 - 10/12/10 11:09 AM Re: Where did Frugals go?? [Re: SlapStik]  
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Missing the bar so much... Pilot's Bar, later renamed into Goose's Bar... had some helluva good time there cheers . But I used to frequent the sim sections, too, I loved the Jane's F18 forum, also the IL-2 series forum, many great gyus there, I learned a lot about the Pacific theater, historical events, tactics, etc.

Memories, memories... just regretfully so much invaluable information has been lost. Well, that's life, I guess
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#3115553 - 10/14/10 07:35 PM Re: Where did Frugals go?? [Re: SlapStik]  
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I miss it too. Maybe it was around 1998, I was relatively new to flight simming, having spent my early years with a PC invloved with racing sims like the old Indy Car/Indy Car 2, the original NASCAR racing and Grand Prix.

But I soon found flight sims like DI's Apache and the early Jane's sims like US Navy Fighters, ATF, Longbow and F-15.

Seeking info on flight simming led me first to Combatsim and shortly after to SimHQ. I soon picked up the Euro release of the classic MiG Alley. The campaign in MiG Alley really sucked me in and I was soon posting AAR's and campaign strategies on CSim and SimHQ. One of the guys who participated in these threads was Ken 'KC23' Cook, who at that time was also involved at Frugalsworld, and he asked if I would consider popping in over there and hanging out in their fledgling MA forum. I did, and Frug's became my 'home' on the net. I would spend hours flying MiG Alley campaign missions, and then hours more posting about it at Frugals. I loved it, and I loved the sense of community I found. And the intercontinental mix of people I was interacting with just blew my mind. I mean, here I was in NJ having discussion with folks in England, and Finland and Australia and Germany. It's easy to take this all for granted today, but to me back then it was like a portal to the world was opened. So freakin' cool it was.

Back in those days, in 1999, Frug's was the old green and black cascading style forum, featuring the ever popular Comet cursor smile Mark started I believe more into space sims than flight sims, but it wouldn't take long for Frugalsworld to establish itself as one of the go-to places for info on flight sims, especially Falcon and MiG Alley IMO. Mark took a liking to what I was doing with my MiG Alley posts and asked me to join the staff, and I quickly agreed. I became a moderator, and also wrote some articles, pieces on some of classics such as EAW, BoB and Steel Beasts. It was great fun, and the association with Frugalsworld started many internet friendships with some really good people.

And even though it was the simulations that brought us together, it was the people that made Frugs special, as many others like BBall have stated in this thread before me. As the membership exploded there's no denying that with it we had some less than desirable characters making waves, and anyone who was hanging around Frugs for any length of time with readily admit we had troublemakers. But the vast majority of members were damn good people, who shared a common interest, and found in Frug's site a place to share and seek info, and feel appreciated and understood for their chosen pastime, simming.

And as TG just said, there was more to it than just the sim stuff. I've had many great conversations there about history, sports, fishing and guitars for example. I miss the place, there's no doubt about it. I still have the site bookmarked and occasionally I'll click it just in case...

My life has changed alot since Frug's went down... new home, new state, new job, wife, step kids and baby.... so I don't have time like I once did for simming and sim related websites. But I still hope Frug's rises from the ashes one day. So much good info, so many good people and far too many good times for it all to be history. But I suppose sometimes all good things must come to an end. I'm just hoping Frugalsworld doesn't become one of them.

Thankfully SimHQ is still going strong and I come here a couple times a week just to try and stay up to date, and get some sort of Falcon fix even if I don't find myself in the cockpit these days, or involved much in campaign threads like the old days. Good to see many old, familiar names in this thread, and I hope someday soon we're all reunited over at Mark's.


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#3115834 - 10/15/10 02:44 AM Re: Where did Frugals go?? [Re: SlapStik]  
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#3117424 - 10/17/10 05:27 PM Re: Where did Frugals go?? [Re: SlapStik]  
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Same here, I was shocked to find frugalsworld.com being replaced by a parked / expired domain ad...

cheers hoover

#3124031 - 10/26/10 02:01 PM Re: Where did Frugals go?? [Re: hoover]  
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Originally Posted By: hoover
Same here, I was shocked to find frugalsworld.com being replaced by a parked / expired domain ad...

cheers hoover


And now...the domain has been squatted. frown


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#3140817 - 11/19/10 10:33 PM Re: Where did Frugals go?? [Re: SlapStik]  
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There are 17 people bidding on the backorder for the FW domain name (the cyber squatter only registered it for a year - which doesn't mean he won't renew it). I wonder who they all are?

#3141064 - 11/20/10 08:58 AM Re: Where did Frugals go?? [Re: SlapStik]  
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I definately miss Frugals... I joined back in 98 when combatsim.com went to a pay only site. That was when Frugals really took off...

I miss the old debates with Raptor when he was convinced he was a living legend of aerodynamics...

And building new campaigns for the original sim. Those were the days... The instability would kill you in a heartbeat when flying multiplayer dogfight but it was still a blast!

I wonder if the site will really ever come back...



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#3141139 - 11/20/10 02:34 PM Re: Where did Frugals go?? [Re: CAG Hotshot]  
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Originally Posted By: CAG Hotshot
I definately miss Frugals... I joined back in 98 when combatsim.com went to a pay only site. That was when Frugals really took off...

I miss the old debates with Raptor when he was convinced he was a living legend of aerodynamics...

And building new campaigns for the original sim. Those were the days... The instability would kill you in a heartbeat when flying multiplayer dogfight but it was still a blast!

I wonder if the site will really ever come back...


I don't know about living legend but Raptor is a aero engineer .

#3141372 - 11/20/10 11:19 PM Re: Where did Frugals go?? [Re: SlapStik]  
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I know...... Off Topic, but ......

Hey Ed, Any insight to whether I should ask Santa for a new HOTAS This Following Year?
My old one has finally given out, and I would replace it if I thought a good flight sim was gonna be available.
Any Thoughts.........
wink

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#3141566 - 11/21/10 12:03 PM Re: Where did Frugals go?? [Re: Budds]  
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Originally Posted By: Budds
I know...... Off Topic, but ......

Hey Ed, Any insight to whether I should ask Santa for a new HOTAS This Following Year?
My old one has finally given out, and I would replace it if I thought a good flight sim was gonna be available.
Any Thoughts.........
wink


h.a.w.x.2 is a good alternative for af...

neaner

#3141580 - 11/21/10 12:41 PM Re: Where did Frugals go?? [Re: Budds]  
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Originally Posted By: Budds
I know...... Off Topic, but ......

Hey Ed, Any insight to whether I should ask Santa for a new HOTAS This Following Year?
My old one has finally given out, and I would replace it if I thought a good flight sim was gonna be available.
Any Thoughts.........
wink


You should ask Santa Claus for a Saitek X65F, HOTAS Warthog or the upcoming CH product. I know one of your wishes will come true!

Regards
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#3141996 - 11/22/10 04:32 AM Re: Where did Frugals go?? [Re: SlapStik]  
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Question about Frugals. What is the situation? Did they lose all the data for the site? Otherwise I would be happy to get the site back up again, even if we had to go with a new domain.

What is the situation?

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#3142003 - 11/22/10 04:46 AM Re: Where did Frugals go?? [Re: SlapStik]  
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See Panther's post of what BBall said earlier in the thread.

#3154904 - 12/11/10 09:08 AM Re: Where did Frugals go?? [Re: Ed_1]  
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Originally Posted By: Ed_1
Originally Posted By: CAG Hotshot
I definately miss Frugals... I joined back in 98 when combatsim.com went to a pay only site. That was when Frugals really took off...

I miss the old debates with Raptor when he was convinced he was a living legend of aerodynamics...

And building new campaigns for the original sim. Those were the days... The instability would kill you in a heartbeat when flying multiplayer dogfight but it was still a blast!

I wonder if the site will really ever come back...


I don't know about living legend but Raptor is a aero engineer .


You obviously didnt know him then. In 1998 he was FAR from being an aero engineer...

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#3154978 - 12/11/10 02:28 PM Re: Where did Frugals go?? [Re: CAG Hotshot]  
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Originally Posted By: CAG Hotshot
Originally Posted By: Ed_1
Originally Posted By: CAG Hotshot
I definately miss Frugals... I joined back in 98 when combatsim.com went to a pay only site. That was when Frugals really took off...

I miss the old debates with Raptor when he was convinced he was a living legend of aerodynamics...

And building new campaigns for the original sim. Those were the days... The instability would kill you in a heartbeat when flying multiplayer dogfight but it was still a blast!

I wonder if the site will really ever come back...


I don't know about living legend but Raptor is a aero engineer .


You obviously didnt know him then. In 1998 he was FAR from being an aero engineer...

tomcat


Have no idea in 1998 , that's right when F4 was released , it was much later that he help some in SPx series and was student , studying aero engineer at the time .

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