man that's pretty
i hope it's sturdier on the insides than the cougar was

For those of you who have not read the "A Few More Details" post-E3 Warthog article, it breaks down the rudder options for the Warthog in detail:
http://www.simhq.com/_technology3/technology_175a.html

Will you guys now fly with the Warthog throttle and put the Cougar aside despite that you fly virtual F-16?

It's probably going to be a quadrature hall sensor like the Allegro A1230 Link But I'll be interested to see how they mount the magnet.

The T.16000M was with a coil spring and ring system. Link

I see your point of view but the math is correct. They had 57 on order total of which was 35 heading to PA inventory and only 22 going to their CA inventory. My "position in line" is 22 out of the PA inbound inventory and overall I'm 33 out of the total of 57. I should have been more clear or not be so excited and just leave out this detail. BTW, they have sold all 57 as of earlier today. See capture excerpt of the page I printed just after ordering in which I noted the numbers that incremented.

Short answer: Yes.
Longer answer: Whichever stick does a better job.
Truth: The Cougar is at the end of its life cycle, and even though I love my FSSB modded Cougar with TQS +HS1, metal switch casings and what not (plus the feeling that I need to justify its sheer $ investment), the HW is already making room for my poor Kitty to collect dust in the closet...

Anyone have the Thrustmaster MFDs? Are they worth getting? I have been playing with the Warthog beta for the last bit and can see that the TM MFDs might come in very handy with the OSB buttons.

they are working on implementing the MFD's from cougar...some where on the Beta forum they stated this I did not have time to go and search. I off to work..

When Where....... How much!! so many questions,with no answers....
I want one...and I want it now DADDY!!!!!
I neeeeeeeeed it before Christmas!!!

On a serious note,is that the 29th of OCT that its released?
Would I be too bold as to ask,when its on offer in Australia???

woohooooo!!!!
you're going down bandits!!!

Lets hope their QC is a hell of a lot more effective than their first time round?

Anyway, what if you dont have the first set...do you still need to buy it or will TM release an A10 stand alone set?

Mailman

Pre-ordered Warthog. Also threw in TrackIR 5 too.

Six hundred big ones

What are you asking here?

The HOTAS Cougar, Cougar MFD and HOTAS Warthog are all separate products. None requires any other.

If you have the MFDs, the Warthog's new software (TARGET and script based) will let you program them. I would _expect_ (but I haven't been told or given any indication one way or the other, so this is NOT a promise from me or TM) that the software will go up on the website like their other software, and you'd be able to use it with the MFDs w/o having a Warthog (again, only my personal speculation).

I found a U.S. patent document by Guillemot that probably shows how the Warthog stick works:

Thrustmaster Warthog Design Patent

It has lots of diagrams, but the wording is legal mumbo-jumbo.

I've got those and I really like them, especially for DCS: A10C it really elevates the game further that you can just mash their buttons instead of throwing the mouse around. plus they automatically got setup to that game.

Staffan

So the MFD Cougar pack are compatible with dcs: a-10c???

Wow JK, that's an interesting read. Thanks.

After giving the patent a thorough read-through, it'll be interesting to see how long piece 215 holds up in the field. It's taking all the force of the spring and has the upper cup grinding against it.

The MFD Cougar Pack is compatible with any application that recognizes joystick buttons. Each MFD is basically a 20-button joystick with no axes.

What's nice about using the MFD Cougar Pack with DCS: A-10C is that the devices should be automatically recognized and configured.

Nice! That makes me think about purchasing a pack when the price is right.

...now if someone would just make a set of LCD panels that would fit in the MFD holes...

g.

I was told, on this forum, that T.16000M has a MLX90333 Hall sensor chip and running in digital mode (I guess most likely in SPI mode instead of PWM). So, the chances are good that it's MLX90333 inside Warthog (good for me if it turns out to be true, as I have a USD $1700 programmer for MLX chips; bought for the DiH and DiXYHS projects). Plus, the Allegro chip you provided link with has quadrature output, it would be a pain in the you know where for this application. With MLX90333, all you really need is a MLX90333, 3 capacitors, a magnet (Neo most likely), and a mechanism to move the magnet on a spherical trajectory. What's the obvious solution? A ball! But, the newest TM press release does say a "Cardan" mechanism, i.e. a universal joint.

Fransky, wanna bet? $5? I bet it's MLX90333 in the Warthog stick, anything else I lose.