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#3072685 - 08/13/10 08:09 AM "The Death of the Red Baron" Mini-film *****  
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Just uploaded this - a follow on from "The Death of Werner Voss" video Smile2

Hope you like it..

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#3072691 - 08/13/10 08:19 AM Re: "The Death of the Red Baron" Mini-film [Re: Gisbod]  
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Just fantasic stuff! very very well done!

#3072697 - 08/13/10 09:25 AM Re: "The Death of the Red Baron" Mini-film [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
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Superb filming, very professional, best movie yet made with RoF!

How do you control the "camera"? - As in the smooth pan of the windsock in the beginning?

Do you make a script first with all the shots, or do you just put them together as you go along?

Some positive critique:
I saw two small errors in the text. "School friend" in one word, and a few comma's that shouldn't be there. Also, when Brown begins the low chase, the sequence seems a bit disjointed, flight over no-man's-land, then suddenly green forest...

I like that you don't go overboard with effects (the typical first error of video makers, "because they can"). However, I was wondering if a little Ken Burn's effect on the text wouldn't look good. It would add to the dynamism of the whole movie.

Excellent effort and it must have been a huge piece of work. Can't wait to see your next opus!


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#3072708 - 08/13/10 10:21 AM Re: "The Death of the Red Baron" Mini-film [Re: Freycinet]  
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Originally Posted By: Freycinet
Superb filming, very professional, best movie yet made with RoF!

How do you control the "camera"? - As in the smooth pan of the windsock in the beginning?

Do you make a script first with all the shots, or do you just put them together as you go along?

Some positive critique:
I saw two small errors in the text. "School friend" in one word, and a few comma's that shouldn't be there. Also, when Brown begins the low chase, the sequence seems a bit disjointed, flight over no-man's-land, then suddenly green forest...

I like that you don't go overboard with effects (the typical first error of video makers, "because they can"). However, I was wondering if a little Ken Burn's effect on the text wouldn't look good. It would add to the dynamism of the whole movie.


Thanks for that. Always grateful for feedback - It's the only way to improve!

In answer to your questions - The camera shake is simply waggling the mouse around during recording - not very technical I'm afraid! The smooth panning is again just a sweep of the mouse..

I don't make a script, but have an idea of the story in my head, knowing I'm going to need a take off scene followed by a cruise shot etc - I try to keep them all in separate groupings on the timeline and pull the scenes together at the end.

To be honest the text is the biggest headache - It's surprisingly difficult to not miss things - I've been through it a thousand times but still missed "Schoolfriend" You end up seeing what you expect to see!

Commas are my weak point! I never know where to put them!

As for the green fields at the end - that was deliberate - as they fly across the lines and some distance beyond as Richthofen became target fixated on May.

What is the Ken Burn's effect? I'd be interested...

#3072719 - 08/13/10 10:56 AM Re: "The Death of the Red Baron" Mini-film [Re: Gisbod]  
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Burns_Effect

Here's a slideshow with the effect:

http://activeden.net/item/xml-slideshow-with-ken-burns-effect/32354

I'd want it just on your text, so it slowly zooms in or out, while also panning slightly. Different motions for different clips, always changing to follow the flow of the story or of the images.


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#3072721 - 08/13/10 11:00 AM Re: "The Death of the Red Baron" Mini-film [Re: Freycinet]  
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Ah thanks,

I did actually try and do that for the images, but couldn't work out how! I'm sure there's a way..

Mind you, not everyone liked it - Someone just posted this on the YouTube comments.. boom biggrin


- Historically inaccurate

- Visually poorly thought out

It gives the impression of a very low budget movie inspired by Hollywood. There's more to movies than shaking cameras and fancy computer graphics.

#3072727 - 08/13/10 11:10 AM Re: "The Death of the Red Baron" Mini-film [Re: Gisbod]  
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Some dimwit who joined youtube just to post that... - Disregard.


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#3072731 - 08/13/10 11:20 AM Re: "The Death of the Red Baron" Mini-film [Re: Gisbod]  
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Very well done! You have a good eye there. Saw some nice flying with that Camel too. thumbsup


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#3072755 - 08/13/10 12:55 PM Re: "The Death of the Red Baron" Mini-film [Re: -Avatar-]  
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#3072757 - 08/13/10 12:58 PM Re: "The Death of the Red Baron" Mini-film [Re: -Avatar-]  
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I may have to revisit RoF now. Great movie.

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#3072779 - 08/13/10 01:39 PM Re: "The Death of the Red Baron" Mini-film [Re: Freycinet]  
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Great movie! The opposite of what that Youtube comment claims about your work is true.

One minor point for me: Why does the triplane in the first sequence from black&white to colour use the standard and not the all red MvR skin? Wouldn't a red triplane be much more fitting?

#3072809 - 08/13/10 02:26 PM Re: "The Death of the Red Baron" Mini-film [Re: Gisbod]  
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It gives the impression of a very low budget movie inspired by Hollywood. There's more to movies than shaking cameras and fancy computer graphics.


No, it doesn't.

It gives the impression of a fantastic movie that is very well done. That comment probably comes out of jealousy and spite rather than reason.

If there's one critique I'd have made it's that I would have blurred somewhat the edges of the pilot photographs. The Baron is what comes to mind - the sharp break between the white background of the edge of the picture and the CGI in that scene looks a little awkward. But that's only a very minor point.

Well done! It's really good and I can't wait to see the next one!

Cheers

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#3072836 - 08/13/10 03:10 PM Re: "The Death of the Red Baron" Mini-film [Re: FiveDigits]  
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Originally Posted By: FiveDigits
Great movie! The opposite of what that Youtube comment claims about your work is true.

One minor point for me: Why does the triplane in the first sequence from black&white to colour use the standard and not the all red MvR skin? Wouldn't a red triplane be much more fitting?


I did it deliberately because the Triplane in the footage is the olive streaked one - so it would have looked odd changing from that to a red one Smile2

#3072840 - 08/13/10 03:17 PM Re: "The Death of the Red Baron" Mini-film [Re: Antares]  
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Originally Posted By: Argy
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It gives the impression of a very low budget movie inspired by Hollywood. There's more to movies than shaking cameras and fancy computer graphics.


No, it doesn't.

It gives the impression of a fantastic movie that is very well done. That comment probably comes out of jealousy and spite rather than reason.

If there's one critique I'd have made it's that I would have blurred somewhat the edges of the pilot photographs. The Baron is what comes to mind - the sharp break between the white background of the edge of the picture and the CGI in that scene looks a little awkward. But that's only a very minor point.

- Argy


Hi Argy,

Thanks for your support! I have a sneaking suspicion it's from a forum member from Rise of Flight - Just joined with a random number as a name tag.. sigh

As for the blurred edges- That would have been cool - Definitely something I'll try for the next one. But to be honest, I'm new to the whole movie thing and I'm not familiar with the Sony Vegas yet - there's probably loads I can do but just don't realise yet! It took me forever to work out how to position the photos to one side of the screen!

Anyway, nice to get constructive critiques - Such a better class of posters here on SimHQ than YouTube! biggrin

#3072887 - 08/13/10 04:24 PM Re: "The Death of the Red Baron" Mini-film [Re: Gisbod]  
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Very Nice Gisbod! Excellent work. The History Channel should hire you. I'll make sure this goes up on the ROF You Tube Channel.

Jason

#3072891 - 08/13/10 04:29 PM Re: "The Death of the Red Baron" Mini-film [Re: 777 Studios - Jason]  
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Excellent work!

My attention span is usually too short for most machinima but this was very well done!

#3072893 - 08/13/10 04:30 PM Re: "The Death of the Red Baron" Mini-film [Re: 777 Studios - Jason]  
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Thanks Jason,

I just pm'd hoping you may feature it..

Regards

#3072907 - 08/13/10 04:41 PM Re: "The Death of the Red Baron" Mini-film [Re: Gisbod]  
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Loved it!
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#3072912 - 08/13/10 04:49 PM Re: "The Death of the Red Baron" Mini-film [Re: BadBud]  
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Super movie, Really shows off ROF well. Also, great editing and filmmaking techniques!

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#3072974 - 08/13/10 05:54 PM Re: "The Death of the Red Baron" Mini-film [Re: Scoobe]  
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I found this video this morning on the Neoqb channel before logging on to SimHQ and was blown away.
Excellent video. thumbsup thumbsup


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