#2983528 - 03/26/10 05:58 PM
Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread
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Seriously Doomer I agree with you.
Not cool TM not cool at all!
I've got a bad feeling about this.....
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#2983636 - 03/26/10 07:53 PM
Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread
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You'd think it was in their best interest to post some more news. With the Saitek X65 recently released there may be many going that route instead because of the lack of info from TM whereas if they'd kept feeding us little bits of info and new pics every now and then people may be more inclined to hold on. Marketting never was their strong point...
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#2983843 - 03/27/10 02:42 AM
Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread
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"Don't 'tease' me bro!!" This thing is slowly taking airs of vaporware! What is real sad though, is that CH Products has also a promising product to compete with it, but its release to the common joe is not planned as of yet. It appears nobody wants to lay down their cards and show their hand. Only sensible solution; DIY!! At least if you don't get it on time, it's your own fault!
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#2984277 - 03/27/10 09:58 PM
Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread
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What is real sad though, is that CH products has also a promising product to compete with it, but its release to the common joe is not planned as of yet. It appears nobody wants to lay down their cards and show their hand. To the best of my knowledge, CH has not "promised" anything. What they have done is release a set for military simulation. That product *may* evolve into a consumer issue in the future. However, that last sentence is pure speculation. Could it happen? Sure. Is it likely? Sure, why not. Has it been "promised"? No, it has not.
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#2984321 - 03/27/10 11:49 PM
Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread
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I completely agree. And I didn't mean to imply anything else. I forgot to point out that CH Products' HOTAS setup is most likely far superior than anything Guillemot would be willing to release to the general public. Their respective clients have different expectations, and in the case of CH Products' setup it would be much more expensive as well.
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#2984463 - 03/28/10 04:58 AM
Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread
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I forgot to point out that CH Products' HOTAS setup is most likely far superior than anything Guillemot would be willing to release to the general public. Their respective clients have different expectations, and in the case of CH Products' setup it would be much more expensive as well. I guess it depends on what is meant by "much". I bought the Cougar when it first came out. And when it revealed itself to be a steaming pile I switched to CH. The prices were very comparable - at least in my experience. It could be the same again - if such a system was released.
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#2984807 - 03/28/10 08:57 PM
Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread
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While I'm not a fan of Guillemot based on past experience, I will say that like with sims, it is far better that they take their time and get it right. I'm also not sure that it would be fair to lay any hard feelings on James. He's just responsible for the software. I believe that he is as much at the mercy of the timing gods as we are.
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#2985548 - 03/29/10 10:57 PM
Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread
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This thing is slowly taking airs of vaporware!
There are several being tested amongst community members, and developers, as we speak. At the moment, fine tuning of the hardware, button responses and axis forces are being undertaken by TM. Kudos to them for taking onboard the suggestions coming at them from the team although it has to be said that most of the suggestions have come from them which has surprised me. NDA and contract and all that, so that's all I'm saying at this point in time. This will be a popular HOTAS, of that I have no doubt. But not to be accused of bias, by all means, wait and try one and decide for yourself. So far, a lot of great thinking and attention to detail are apparent. Minor correction to one post: the software for this isn't being developed by me. Cheers Nutty
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#2986626 - 03/31/10 12:58 PM
Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread
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Well, as small as it is, its very kind of you for giving this small info, and its also nice to see that things are still moving foward and making improvements with the fine tuning of the hardware. Me too i´m interested on the Warthog, and certainly want to buy it, even if i dont know to i will able to do it considering that in Argentina we have to pay extra 50% of price item plus shipment on import taxes! . But that´s a another story.
Si hay que huir, YO PRIMERO!!!
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#2987068 - 04/01/10 12:58 AM
Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread
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Thanks Nutty. It is good to hear that there is some substance to what has been teased. I am looking forward to the product launch - having been let down by the Logitech hardware and some of their design choices (no center dents on the trim/rotary dials and the 'mouse stick' being on the flight stick instead of the throttle). I would just stick to my CH set but the split throttle is such a nice option and the trim wheels, although lacking in center dents, meaning that I have to look at them to center them, is annoying. I am looking forward to Thrustmaster's entry
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#2988516 - 04/03/10 02:41 AM
Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread
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Let me throw in my 'thanks' as well, Nutty. It's good of you to post a line or two here every once and awhile to let us know this project is proceeding, albeit slowly. I don't know if you would be in the know, but has any progress been made towards some sort of programming for the MFD Cougar Pack?
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#2991282 - 04/08/10 08:26 AM
Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread
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I thought that most if not all Cougar users pimped their tick with the U2 Nxt gimbal mod. That way, the Cougar is perfect when it comes to handling and durability. No more wear and tear. The rest of Cougar doesn't really need any fixing, except for some repositioning of severa buttons, which is fairly easy. I use mine for almost 7 years now and all i have to do is to change on of the U2 Nxt springs from time to time. They have a tendency to fail after a couple of months. Mostly the y-axis ones.
But nothing really competes with the Cougar! The Warthog will be my next choice but this time, i will wait after the release to see how it really performs and let others beta test this puppy.
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Exodus
by RedOneAlpha. 04/18/24 05:46 PM
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