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#2973768 - 03/10/10 09:56 AM Reference material required  
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In order to do the best possible job on this project we need high quality references. Hopefully there are people in the community that have access to some of the material we need. If you have the material we are looking for and want to help please feel free to post it in this thread, or PM me or Flexman with links.

We currently require high-res photos or diagrams of a few items in the cockpit:

  • Control stick
  • Left side console panels, specifically those behind the throttle.


References for the AH-64A are not wanted as the listed items are completely different for the D model. The text in the photos/digrams needs to be legible for the material to be of use to us.

If you have access to a 'D pit, can take photos and want to help out please contact me.

Cheers

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#2973778 - 03/10/10 10:36 AM Re: Reference material required [Re: AD]  
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I doubt this will help... But I tried, I'll try again tomorrow.




#2974295 - 03/11/10 01:49 AM Re: Reference material required [Re: AD]  
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Here's what I have at the moment...if more would be helpful, just let me know what you're looking for and I'll PM it to you. No pics from me, just diagrams.

Panels behind the Pilot's throttle quadrant:



Panels behind the CPG's throttle quadrant:


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#2974405 - 03/11/10 07:01 AM Re: Reference material required [Re: AlphaOneSix]  
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You little BEAUTY! That was exactly what I needed. There's a couple of others I need some help with:

There's a panel in the pilots pit on the right side at the front above the 'WINDSHIELD PANEL', I believe it's called 'OIL CYP TEST'. I could do with a diagram for that.

Also, I recently found out that the throttle quadrant in the D is different to the A, so I could do with a diagram of that.

Finally I need a drawing of the control stick that shows the text.

Thanks again!

Cheers

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#2974591 - 03/11/10 05:02 PM Re: Reference material required [Re: AD]  
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I need to caution, if you guys are going to model Active US Army aircraft, we do not have the ORT anymore, we all switched to TEDAC.

AD, email or PM me with the panels you need to see, I have the -10, I can scan them for you, provided the panels are not countermeasures or such classified pieces.


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#2974649 - 03/11/10 06:18 PM Re: Reference material required [Re: Bushmaster78FS]  
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Originally Posted By: Bushmaster78FS
I need to caution, if you guys are going to model Active US Army aircraft, we do not have the ORT anymore, we all switched to TEDAC.

AD, email or PM me with the panels you need to see, I have the -10, I can scan them for you, provided the panels are not countermeasures or such classified pieces.


Yes, we are aware. Thanks.


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#2974686 - 03/11/10 07:24 PM Re: Reference material required [Re: Flexman]  
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AD & Flex,

There are tons of images as usual, here is a rare night one I took,



Any shots for the night pit yet?

Notice the corners of the MPDs...




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#2974706 - 03/11/10 08:05 PM Re: Reference material required [Re: Bushmaster78FS]  
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Yeah I noticed the rounded MPDs are actually quite square on the inner-face where it meets the display unlike ours. We will fix that when we get a moment. It's not that simple a fix when it involves painting and complex geometry parts. But it won't interfere with the display output.

- What is the current character resolution of the upfront controller? I have one with the 35x10 display which is a good resolution to read. I've seen ones with a higher resolution and I'm guessing they are from a new block version. I'm reluctant to go too far as it carries information people might want to read and not squint at.

- Getting an accurate font for the MPDs has been a pain, those pics will help me with the other references I have. The one I'm using is close but not 100%. Is there a test page with a character table?

- Question about the fuel page, the "E" positioned between engine one and the forward tank is the emergency reserve (in lbs how much)? Or is that an empty warning indicator, those tanks look pretty dry in that shot. At what value do the fuel figures turn red?


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#2974848 - 03/12/10 01:18 AM Re: Reference material required [Re: AD]  
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Originally Posted By: AD
There's a panel in the pilots pit on the right side at the front above the 'WINDSHIELD PANEL', I believe it's called 'OIL CYP TEST'. I could do with a diagram for that.


I think you're talking about the engine overspeed test panel:



I'm still working on the other things you asked for.

#2974921 - 03/12/10 04:23 AM Re: Reference material required [Re: AlphaOneSix]  
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Thanks again AlphaOneSix.

The pit has moved on quite a bit in the last 48 hours and I've begun to build the CPG station. Any references for the TEDAC would be welcome.

Cheers


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#2975058 - 03/12/10 02:20 PM Re: Reference material required [Re: Flexman]  
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Originally Posted By: Flexman
Yeah I noticed the rounded MPDs are actually quite square on the inner-face where it meets the display unlike ours. We will fix that when we get a moment. It's not that simple a fix when it involves painting and complex geometry parts. But it won't interfere with the display output.
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- What is the current character resolution of the upfront controller? I have one with the 35x10 display which is a good resolution to read. I've seen ones with a higher resolution and I'm guessing they are from a new block version. I'm reluctant to go too far as it carries information people might want to read and not squint at.
That display seemed fine to me, I can take a look at -10 if you want, but I say leave it the way it is.

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- Getting an accurate font for the MPDs has been a pain, those pics will help me with the other references I have. The one I'm using is close but not 100%. Is there a test page with a character table?
MPDs do have a test page however I don't have a photo of it. Can I see what you got as far as fonts are concerned?

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- Question about the fuel page, the "E" positioned between engine one and the forward tank is the emergency reserve (in lbs how much)? Or is that an empty warning indicator, those tanks look pretty dry in that shot. At what value do the fuel figures turn red?


I don't think it is the emergency reserve because we had the bird emptied for a test run. It had fuel booster problems, so we had it completely empty. The numbers you see there are being input by the test kit which we connect. There is no fuel in the tanks.


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#2975191 - 03/12/10 05:46 PM Re: Reference material required [Re: Bushmaster78FS]  
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Thanks for all the help gentlemen. Both pilot and CPG pits are pretty much done save for a few minor details.


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#2975197 - 03/12/10 06:01 PM Re: Reference material required [Re: AD]  
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Super super sweet! You are THE man! wink

#2975240 - 03/12/10 06:56 PM Re: Reference material required [Re: Flyboy]  
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#2975250 - 03/12/10 07:16 PM Re: Reference material required [Re: Bushmaster78FS]  
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The geometry isn't perfect but it's inconsequential as you'll never be able to see the profile.

With a trackIR unit, this is about the closest you'll get to seeing the side of it. However, the 3d engine self-shadows so the TEDAC base will be almost entirely shadowed-out.


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#2975252 - 03/12/10 07:18 PM Re: Reference material required [Re: AD]  
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I was just curious because I wasn't able to see the depth of the screen, it felt like a plate sticking through that boom, but it looks as real as it gets I see here...


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#2975257 - 03/12/10 07:24 PM Re: Reference material required [Re: Bushmaster78FS]  
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By the way, I'm sure about the markings at the top of the pedals, in the references I had all I could see was the H, so I presumed it was HUGHES. Also I believe that there's either a logo in the center circle, or it's cut away. Any pictures?



I'm still trying to find a reference that shows the text on the flight stick.

Cheers

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#2975323 - 03/12/10 09:20 PM Re: Reference material required [Re: AD]  
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You want to see the cyclic? collective? TEDAC handgrips?


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#2975324 - 03/12/10 09:21 PM Re: Reference material required [Re: Bushmaster78FS]  
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No pics of rudders with me, but I like what I am seeing. Honestly never paid attention to those, can't believe the nice detail you are implementing. I like that.


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