Thank You.

New version is nearly here (already announced on Hpasp page)! Thanks!

As for the Hpasp's question I am too for the NASA Digital Elevation Model to be done at first. So low flying targets would be much harder to shoot down.

New version of the SAM Simulator, including the S-200VE Vega-E (SA-5B Gammon) system is available.

http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

After much head scratching as to why the missiles lived up to their name and always missed, finally worked it out and got a B-52 down

Edit: Experimenting...

20:31, Missile exploded
Practice target 8K14 R-300 (SCUD-B) Tactical Ballistic Missile killed by SAM. (miss distance: 7m)

20:35, Missile exploded
Practice target 8K14 R-300 (SCUD-B) Tactical Ballistic Missile killed by SAM. (miss distance: 10m)

After the host finally gave me my normal D/L speed (as opposed to the 1 kbps I was getting at first >_>) I've installed it and read through the manual. Wow. This thing is more of a nightmare than the SA-2, and I think it'll be awhile before I'm able to use it very well.

So far I've found one typo, and have a feature request. On page 7 of SA-5B_Eng.pdf the title reads "S-200VE VEGA-E (SA-5B Ganef) Site Layout". Someone was thinking about the SA-4 while writing this. ;D

As for the feature request, would you make everything work backwards? By backwards I mean being able to close the switch covers after opening them, and fully powering the site down. I realize that what I'm asking would take time to do, and that's time that you could spend working on a new system, or implementing the NASA terrain height. But it really does annoy me that I can't fully reset the system back to the way it was before I turned it on.

With that said, away I go to shoot at more stuff.

*Edit*

Not sure if this is a bug or not. Either way I like it.

Practice target:
B-747

S-200VE Vega-E


39:37, Missile launched from launcher-1
Target distance: 190km
Target azimuth: 155°
Target elevation: 3°
Target angular speed: 203m/s (0.7 Mach)
Target altitude: 12.9km
RPC mode: MHI - Wide Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target before launch
Received signal strenght: 28.8dB


43:37, Missile exploded
Practice target B-747 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 4m)

Total, SNR On Air Time: 8min 2sec

Yes, that's the Hungry practice. Also, I just noticed another typo, "Received signal strenght:" strength is misspelled.

You were right, I do like the SA-5 more than the SA-4. And that's saying a lot, as I love my SA-4!

*Edit 2*

Three more questions.

What does this do? I know far left is LOAL, far right is normal, and the second from the right is HOJ, but nothing mentions this mode.


I can't find anything that even mentions this entire panel, does it function?


And finally, what are the other methods of engaging a jamming target?

So far I've found one typo, and have a feature request.

The typo is corrected, with some other minor issues.

What does this do? I know far left is LOAL, far right is normal, and the second from the right is HOJ, but nothing mentions this mode.

Its simulated, but not mentioned...

In this mode, the missile will acquire normal (non-jamming, incoming) target only after launch.

Sad joke, but that setting is used against airliners...
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia_Airlines_Flight_1812_accident)


The reason for having this mode:

Most of the Vega sites were built into the middle of a forest (this one on the pictures are called "Klondike"), to hide its existence from spies.
While the RPC's were located on an elevated platform, and could see over the tree line, the missiles were at the ground.
So it could happen, that the RPC were tracking, but the missile was not see anything, as trees blocked its line of sight.
If you have this setting, the firing ring will illuminate, and you can fire at your will.

Even more questions.

1. What do these do?


2. What do 1 and 2 do? 3 goes along with another question, how to intercept the SR-71. More on that later.


3. What does 1 do?


Now then, as I'm sure you've guessed the little green things are supposed to be the SR-71. How do I acquire it? In picture 2 the contact appears on the left most scan area and I can't figure out how to move it to the center scan. And in picture 3 the contact appears on the bottom scan area and I can't figure out how to move it up to the middle area? I've tried adjusting everything I could find that might effect it, but I can't move it to the right scan section..

Here written "V poliote "- in flight.
Hpaps explained in more detail =)

Some pictures of the original C-200 in work:

I can't find anything that even mentions this entire panel, does it function?
And finally, what are the other methods of engaging a jamming target?

You got it.


With this switch you can select what type of jamming the enemy is using against your RPC, and counter it.
In the sim, currently only the wide band noise jamming is simulated, so the switch is locked against that.

Typos in menu:
- written "CCCP", but should be "USSR".
- Tallin must be with two "n".

Now then, as I'm sure you've guessed the little green things are supposed to be the SR-71. How do I acquire it? In picture 2 the contact appears on the left most scan area and I can't figure out how to move it to the center scan. And in picture 3 the contact appears on the bottom scan area and I can't figure out how to move it up to the middle area? I've tried adjusting everything I could find that might effect it, but I can't move it to the right scan section..

Just move the joystick left/right.

2. What do 1 and 2 do?

They are just for limiting the sector search size.

1. What do these do?

They, with the wheel on the right lower part of the "s" screen, and with the RU button on the "c" screen are not implemented, and against ARMs.

It is called RU-V tracking.
These will be implemented with the Libyan scenarios later.

3. What does 1 do?

You can turn off the Nonius mode with that.

Ah, thanks for clearing that up. I had no idea that there would be another return if I scrolled over, lol. So far I've tracked the SR-71 in the second finest mode. However, I can't get a lock in the finest mode due to the damn elevation not auto tracking. Right as I get it into the finest mode and start fighting to keep it in the center I loose the track and have to start over again, very frustrating. I'm starting to wish I could just cheat with the IADS, lol.

Once again great thanks for S-200.

But I have a question regarding 2K11 Krug - What is that weird double circle in the middle of the radar scope?

I think I found a bug. When I acquire a target the green light for the narrow radar mode illuminates even if the radar is off. It also illuminates if the switch is down, and the only way to extinguish it is to select the narrow mode, and then select the wide mode.


I don't recall ever seeing that on mine. It could be something that was changed in the new version? I'll go have a look at mine.

*Edit*
Just looked and no, mine shows nothing like that.

I saw that double circle with Krug already in previous version of SAM sim but very sparsely - may be three or four times up to this time. But only this time I did not forget to take a picture of it.

It can be read in the manual that Polish Mrzezyno site has three batteries. In fact it always have had two. The site indeed reflects three-battery structure but the third one was never deployed (I guess the reason was budgetary - late 80's was not the best period for purchasing new toys for anybody in Soviet bloc. Another issue was whether Poland really needed the site. I think the final purchase was a sort of compromise between Soviet demands and Polish funding capabilities... or will :)).

Anyway, check out the video at this site.
http://www.78prop.sp.mil.pl/index.htm

The curiosity is that there are several shots of operator positions of a unique Polish-modernized "digital Vega" S-200C. All three modelled in the sim (acquisition, tracking, and launch control) can be found. Despite total rearrangement I could find counterparts for almost every feature, except for one: little screen with fluctuating spot at 0:39 remains mystery.