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#2894794 - 11/05/09 10:34 AM Re: South Pacific Air War (SPAW) released. [Re: stelto]  
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#2894801 - 11/05/09 11:28 AM Re: South Pacific Air War (SPAW) released. [Re: MadProf]  
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Congratulations guys.

band

I know you have put a lot of work in SPAW and it certainly looks impressive from the screen shots Ive seen! yeah

Cheers


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#2894806 - 11/05/09 11:44 AM Re: South Pacific Air War (SPAW) released. [Re: Rotton50]  
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Hi,

regarding the "Music":

This simply got forgotten to be included into the new "Folder System".
I just created a exe for myself, where the SPAW "Music" folder is placed inside the SPAW folder and it get used when i have the SPAW "dir.set" loaded.

With other words:
With this exe the "Music" is automatically related to the current scenario that is loaded. smile

Since this is not a critical changing regarding the gameplay, we could offer a EAW1.28c+ with this feature, without to get into any other trouble.


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The Wrights, 1st flight, 17. December 1903. They wasnt the 1st, but still claim this!
#2894845 - 11/05/09 01:05 PM Re: South Pacific Air War (SPAW) released. [Re: stelto]  
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Just for fun I loaded SPAW on my son's computer, which is a 1.2Mhz, with 256 MB of memeory using a STB 128 memory card with 4 MB of onboard memory. Did a mission of 16 F4Us escorting a group of SBDs to attack the Zuikaku. Encountered two groups of Zeros, A6M2s and A6M3s. Had a nice furball as the SBDs made their attack run. Lots of flak coming up as well.

Ran very smooth, mostly around 15 to 18 fps, dropped to 14 at one point. Very nearly the same fps I get with my computer.


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#2894863 - 11/05/09 01:38 PM Re: South Pacific Air War (SPAW) released. [Re: Knegel]  
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Originally Posted By: Knegel
Hi,

regarding the "Music":

This simply got forgotten to be included into the new "Folder System".
I just created a exe for myself, where the SPAW "Music" folder is placed inside the SPAW folder and it get used when i have the SPAW "dir.set" loaded.

With other words:
With this exe the "Music" is automatically related to the current scenario that is loaded. smile

Since this is not a critical changing regarding the gameplay, we could offer a EAW1.28c+ with this feature, without to get into any other trouble.


Hi Ralf,
Much simpler approach. The OAW music selection approach worked for me, but renames the folders and
moves the files around. Let me know when you put it up! yep
thanks,
AO

#2894900 - 11/05/09 02:22 PM Re: South Pacific Air War (SPAW) released. [Re: AngleOff]  
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First and formost, congrats to the modsquad. You hard work is appreciated.

I think some owe VBH an appology. Ever since 1.28a I have reported unplayable frame rates on my computer using D3D. The code groups responce has always been use Glide. Since this thread is for SPAW, I will move my conversation.

My system:
ASUS M2A-VM
AMD 64 x2Dual 4600+
2Gb Ram
GeForce 7600 GS with 256 ram

I get 7 FPS with a fresh install of EAW 1.2 and 1.28c.


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#2894913 - 11/05/09 02:35 PM Re: South Pacific Air War (SPAW) released. [Re: Brit44 'Aldo']  
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Hi Aldo,

the extrme slowdown you talk about happen same with clean EAW1.2(i reported that when we was discussing your problem) as such its not a SPAW or EAW1.28c problem to be mentioned here!!

Therefor noone need to apology.

Since the extreme slowdown only seems to happen in rather modern PCs under XP, to use glide is realy the only solution. Under Vista this extreme slowdowns seems to be history.

But again thats not just a SPAW or EAW1.28c problem, if a PC have this problem, all versions of EAW have it.

There is no known special drawback due to EAW1.28c and SPAW on slower machines.

Greetings,

Knegel


1st engined flight by Richard Pearse, Waitohi, New Zealand, March 31, 1902. Karl Jatho, 1st flight, 18.August 1903, Hannover-Vahrenheide, real controlled flights.
The Wrights, 1st flight, 17. December 1903. They wasnt the 1st, but still claim this!
#2895006 - 11/05/09 05:19 PM Re: South Pacific Air War (SPAW) released. [Re: MadProf]  
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Since we seem to be talking about FPS.....

The only time I've had difficulty with reduced Frame Rate
was when I flow the HR P40 Warhawk. When this bird is in formation
my system takes a big hit.....

I don't think that it's a direct problem with either 1.28c or SPAW
but rather with the heavily over-worked 3dz files....

Had the same problem with the HR P40 Kittyhawk in DAW too....

But I've been told that 'Col.Gibbon' was looking into it.

Last edited by Skylark; 11/05/09 05:21 PM.

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#2895028 - 11/05/09 05:39 PM Re: South Pacific Air War (SPAW) released. [Re: Skylark]  
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Yep, that P-40 model has some kind of problem that causes severe FPS drop. Happens in every scenario from standard EAW to SPAW. You'll mostly notice it at the beginning of an encounter when a bunch of them are on the screen together. Once they break up into individual dogfights the problem becomes a lot less noticeable.


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#2895046 - 11/05/09 05:53 PM Re: South Pacific Air War (SPAW) released. [Re: MrJelly]  
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Thank you, Guys

Now we are truely expanding and really making this Sim a World class World war two representng Sim!


Fantastic!

#2895130 - 11/05/09 07:32 PM Re: South Pacific Air War (SPAW) released. [Re: miamieagle]  
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It's kind of sad to see people react with words like troll or worse when someone is providing genuine feedback, I guess some people still think they're Neanderthal instead of rational grownups. It's quite appearent that one should go oooh and aaah even when an addon runs crappy. I can only say that I have about the most powerfull system of the Launchpad members and allthough they're free to give things a try it's not really recommended to em. Unlike me they don't have the money to buy a new high end system.

I mannaged to get things going and I found the culprit of the bad framerates. A bit of analysing, hexediting and messing about solved the problem.
More problems were noticed with left and right snapviews, they wouldn't stay fixed and moved about irrattically. I couldn't repadlock groundtargets after first padlock and switching views.
The pilotmap switched on and off with FPS which made reading it very tiresome.
Seeing the single tile PTII terrainset and original elevations didn't add much to immersiveness and made the terrain look boring (as it was in PTII), a few islands appeared to have waterproperties seeing watersplashes with bullet impacts. On top of that I think my D3D videocard was only capable of reading the lores tiles and textures but it was quickly fixed.
Having done a lot of research on the right order of the battle I wasn't really impressed with the historic accuracy of the frontlines. I did like the carrier take off (once fps was fixed) as well as the groundbattle effect.

I probably could have said lots more but to be honoust I lost interest and went back to the current version of PTIII without remorse. Good luck with fixing the problems and thx for the promised support.

VonBeerhofen

#2895134 - 11/05/09 07:36 PM Re: South Pacific Air War (SPAW) released. [Re: VonBeerhofen]  
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#2895137 - 11/05/09 07:40 PM Re: South Pacific Air War (SPAW) released. [Re: Rotton50]  
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Sorry to disappoint you Rotton but I'm not on my way out, not with so many people in Launchpad relying on me.

VonBeerhofen

#2895139 - 11/05/09 07:45 PM Re: South Pacific Air War (SPAW) released. [Re: VonBeerhofen]  
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Then do everyone, including yourself, a favor just stay out of our posts.

Remember what happened the last time you tried to trash SPAW.


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#2895150 - 11/05/09 08:01 PM Re: South Pacific Air War (SPAW) released. [Re: MrJelly]  
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To the ModSquad:
I downloaded SPAW and I have flown several single missions.

You people are unbelievable! No wonder it took so long for the release.
This is one of the best single projects that has ever been done for EAW.
It is a tremendous effort.
SALUTE!! You have renewed my interest in an old favorite.
I am looking forward to more of the new formatted projects from all of the community.

VERY WELL DONE--BRAVO ZULU to all involved.

ezlead

#2895175 - 11/05/09 08:35 PM Re: South Pacific Air War (SPAW) released. [Re: ezlead]  
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I didn't trash anything Rotton, I merely debated something which was perceived as a stab in the back. I also don't recall anything happening except the usual Neanderthal remarks from you and the others, just like the ones above.

I suppose it's OK for you guys to invade my threads and move attention to your own stuff, in which case it's OK for me to invade your threads and move attention to my stuff, like the FXEXE and PTIII.
As I said, I'm no longer interested or worried, more amused, smile





and that's just the old version. Feel free to do what I know you do best and what you accuse others of doing.

VonBeerhofen

#2895176 - 11/05/09 08:36 PM Re: South Pacific Air War (SPAW) released. [Re: VonBeerhofen]  
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#2895199 - 11/05/09 09:13 PM Re: South Pacific Air War (SPAW) released. [Re: Rotton50]  
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congrats guys!! thumbsup
BTW,the P-40 FPS issue was solved years ago,do a search onit,one of the 3DZs is huge,and wrong,once replaced it rendered normally and the FPS issue went away...do a forum search around 2005,maybe 2006 beercheers


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#2895262 - 11/05/09 10:21 PM Re: South Pacific Air War (SPAW) released. [Re: Shreck]  
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Sherckster, can you get us any closer to the post you are mentioning. Oh yeah, cheers to you.

#2895267 - 11/05/09 10:28 PM Re: South Pacific Air War (SPAW) released. [Re: Shreck]  
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So far so good with me. I do need to stress it a bit more.

Older rig: 2.6 P4 with 2G ram and 512M Geforce 6800GT. Current drivers.

Seems to run fine at 1024x768 in D3D in XP. No 7xxx errors.

Also seems to work fine on my Win98 partition with a 16M Voodoo3 and 512M Ram.

Very nice work.


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