These are medals awarded for service in peacetime VikS, awarded to civilians. You may be looking for military medals like the Victoria Cross, Distinguished Flying Cross, Military Medal

http://www.victoriacross.org.uk/aagloss.htm

Ming

Not sure if this is the place for it but I was told to post it here instead of in a thread in the community hall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiq64mmUHyE

At 1:58 if you look in the top right corner you will see the OAW built Fokker D.VII (4598/18) Flown by Ltn. Josef Mai of Jasta 5. His fokker dvii used the standard cammo for the wing top and bottom. The black/white stripping was only on the fuselage and tail sections.

This is a very good example of how it should look.

http://www.rodenplant.com/Gallery/029/029.htm

I have historic pictures too if you need them

Good job on the game sofar. I love where it is going and can not wait for it's release.

Viks, we can't have a wrong camouflage like that...

- So, I second Masters' posting, if there is a mistake!

It is entirely possible that I have the wrong plane

Actually we have an Hans Kirschtein D.VII of Jasta 6
Also, imho - this one D.VII which kit is by your link - is an Ulrich Neckel airplane, also of Jasta 6.

I'll pull the photos when I get home just to be sure.

This is hardly going to be acceptable research but I have real photographs at home.

You are refering to this kit

http://www.modelingmadness.com/scotts/w1/d7oawpreview.htm

Which lists the pilot of that plane as "Ulrich Neckel." The kit does list him as the pilot but that was not his plane. That plane belonged to Josef Mai pictured here.

http://www.military-art.com/mall/more.php?ProdID=14747
http://www.russellsmithart.com/Small%20pages/Josef%20Mai.htm

As far as I know there are no historic photographs showing Ulrich Neckel in a black and white dvii. He is shown in a black and white dr1 though. I have also never seen a photo of Hans Kirschtein in a black and white dvii. He again did fly in a black and white dr1.

You guys might have photos of these planes though so I am not trying to say you are wrong just that I have never seen it. I would love to see what you have (but you are obviously under no obligation. Dont feel like you have to prove every paint scheme to every schmuck that drops in )

Hello.

Indeed, that video shows Kirschstein's machine. Everything was striped--struts, wheel covers, fuselage, wings, etc. Mai also had a striped mount as you described, but so did Neckel. Here are a couple (grainy) shots of him with this machine:





You can see these photos and a zillion other in Greg VanWyngarden's von Richthofen's Circus, Colours and Markings of Jagdegschwader Nr.1, 1995.

BTW, there is a shot of Kirschstein standing next to his striped D.VII in GVW's book Richthofen's Circus, Jagdgeschwader Nr.1, Osprey, 2004. Page 99.

Obviously I stand corrected Those are some great shots too S!

JFM, great contribution, thanks for posting.

We are looking for any info about WWI river shipping.
Mostly interested in western front river ships, any of them, military, civilian, transports.
Thanks!

VikS,

I think you'll want to model the towed and motorized river barges that have navigated Europe's rivers for centuries. River and canal barges were also pressed into service by the warring nations as machine gun platforms, obstruction booms (at Zeebrugge), artillery platforms (outside of the ROF world though, along the Danube and in Mesopotamia), as troop ferries, and widely as hospital vessels.

Popular manufacturer's would be Freycinet and Luxemotor (our forum members in Europe might be able to find line drawings and more photos of the period's barges perhaps).

Here's a website with some brief history on France's barges:

http://www.riverdancebarge.com/history.html

Here's photographs of WWI barges, showing how they looked, and a few showing details of barges converted as hospital transports (all open source):

Dear Viks,

After the river boat standard gauge from 1822 proved too small, the FREYCINET GAUGE was chosen in 1879.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freycinet_gauge

All the French and Belgian river barges made after that date have a size that make them fit that gauge, which is the size limit for river locks.

"In the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries many French canals were modernised to conform to the Freycinet standard". The French name for these 300 ton river boats made for that standard is péniche. That is the type of river boat you should make.

Photos of péniches:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:P%C3%A9niches

It would also be magnificent to have the Old Hydraulic Boat Lifts on the Canal du Centre in Belgium:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifts_on_the_old_Canal_du_Centre

(UNESCO World Heritage site)

Barges eh? Moving barges along canals and rivers would be a nice touch, maybe even a first in flight sims! The train is totally cool, barges would be great too especially if they were "target quality", if you know what I mean.

This article has been mentioned several times in recent threads:

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/SP-468/ch2-2.htm

It's incredibly useful. Any chance of making a link to it a sticky?

Cheers,

RD.

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Great idea - except we need to open it up to ALL links that provide information.

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You have to remember still check your other sources. Examble that has Fokker D.VII weight listed wrong (and thus all of its numbers that depend on weight)

No more stickies please in this particular forum, two stickies is one too many, make a Info-Stickies forum or something sticky posts are the Devil

Ming

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Moved the original post to the sticky, and along came the replies with it.

Just pretend you can hear me in a bad Ming impersonation saying "I mean it's really rather okay on second thought."

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Tada!

bad Ming impersonation

Yes we've noticed.

Ming