#2818135 - 07/14/09 08:55 PM
Who is neoqb?
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http://www.neoqb.com/en/Then: http://www.neoqb.com/en/sphere/Then: http://www.kamaz.ru/en/company/aboutOh yeah, these guys too: http://www.det-mir.ru/cntnt/english/company_in.htmland, way down in the basement slaving away in abject poverty, these guys: http://riseofflight.com/?lang=en-USI think they may have more support than some would have us believe. I am not trying to start a row here but the: "a few poor guys struggling to bring us the next best thing while operating on a shostring and oh how fabulous that is indeed, let's buy anything they toss our way." posts have driven me to the above madness. Defense of their online requirements have been mostly based on the loss of funds to pirates that a struggling young company simply cannot absorb. One major reason to buy now has been, if we do not support them with our purchase thay may go under. With "the largest automobile corporation of the Russian Federation." and "one of the largest world children’s goods retail." providers on their side I think they may be able to struggle through so maybe there could be a bit less "starving artist" sympathy. It sure is a pretty game though.
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#2818306 - 07/14/09 09:47 PM
Re: Who is neoqb?
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Errr right. So Neoqb have other clients and aren't just a WWI sim developer. Manchester City are buying some of the best players in the world but aren't too likely to actually win anything. Btw, I'm pretty sure that Neoqb never said or implied this: One major reason to buy now has been, if we do not support them with our purchase thay may go under. I love a good conspiracy theory but this certainly isn't one of them.
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#2818384 - 07/14/09 10:14 PM
Re: Who is neoqb?
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Errr right. So Neoqb have other clients and aren't just a WWI sim developer. Manchester City are buying some of the best players in the world but aren't too likely to actually win anything. Btw, I'm pretty sure that Neoqb never said or implied this: One major reason to buy now has been, if we do not support them with our purchase thay may go under. I love a good conspiracy theory but this certainly isn't one of them. I do not believe the sentence you quoted begins with "Neoqb said or implied...." Many supporters and even some not so supportive but avid WWI fans have used the "if we do not support" argument to justify buying what some consider an incomplete offering though, so what's the problem with some clarification?
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#2818392 - 07/14/09 10:27 PM
Re: Who is neoqb?
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With "the largest automobile corporation of the Russian Federation." and "one of the largest world children’s goods retail." providers on their side I think they may be able to struggle through so maybe there could be a bit less "starving artist" sympathy.
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#2818394 - 07/14/09 10:28 PM
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Whether or not Neoqb is a multinational blood-sucking conglomerate or a nickel and dime corner store does not matter one jot. If they make a profit, then it will flourish. It if makes a loss, no more flight sim.
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#2818412 - 07/14/09 11:17 PM
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Whether or not Neoqb is a multinational blood-sucking conglomerate or a nickel and dime corner store does not matter one jot. If they make a profit, then it will flourish. It if makes a loss, no more flight sim. This is true. No company is too big to fail nor too small to succeed.
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#2818416 - 07/14/09 11:23 PM
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One major reason to buy now has been, if we do not support them with our purchase thay may go under.
I remember you one part of last neoqb statement "Flight-simulations are a dying genre in PC gaming and the reasons are pretty obvious to the community. Our approach is not meant to offend, nor is it rooted in greed, it is simply a survival strategy. We hope you understand, even if you disagree with this approach."So... do you think Ivanov is a lier (and a crook) ? Whatever the founding company, there's a dev group behind RoF, that started the development under "Genadish" name, then had to find other founding.... and if the return on invest doesn't show, you can bet on the end of RoF... you wont loose... Do you remember what happened recently to a development studio, that had a long and succesfull history behing, and that was founded by the largest software company in the world???... you know, the studio that developped the FS serie...
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#2818456 - 07/15/09 12:37 AM
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I am not trying to start a row here but the: "a few poor guys struggling to bring us the next best thing while operating on a shostring and oh how fabulous that is indeed, let's buy anything they toss our way." posts have driven me to the above madness.
Get a life man... I know from experience how quickly a flight sim can be pulled from development. You either want a high fidelity WWI flightsim, or your post crap like that.
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#2818485 - 07/15/09 02:00 AM
Re: Who is neoqb?
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"Get a life man" and "You either want a high fidelity WWI flightsim, or your post crap like that."
Good ones, Piper....well, not really but ya tried, eh?
wickedpenguin, It is true indeed that "Just because Neoqb may be owned by a large corporation doesn't it'll stay in business if it's unprofitable"
But if owned by said large corporation, it also follows that they may not be poverty stricken about to fold entity that deserve support based largely on that premise, which is a good part of the arguments pro ROF, right?
Look, no one called anyone crooks, I just posted info gathered from the link on the ROF homepage that may indicate that ROF is possibly not the poor stepchild of the flightsim world as put forth by some supporters as a reason to buy their stuff.
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#2818489 - 07/15/09 02:15 AM
Re: Who is neoqb?
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"..one of the largest world children s goods retail." If the RoF Neoqb was the same exact entity or had the full support of the groups you mentioned, I seriously doubt they would be having a tough time setting up an online shop. Sounds a little far-fetched, IMO. In the end though, if it is the same people...who really cares? I base my judgements on the product and support of the developers/team at hand, not how successful they are in other markets.
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#2818676 - 07/15/09 08:47 AM
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Neocube, see the big-clue cube there
Like we call Rasputin Rasputin not whatever her name was in Russian
Creative marketing can come up with stuff about quantum bits after the fact but a quantum is not an object or a bit it is a quantity or an idea
We already are running quantum computers or they wouldn't work, tunneling magic
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#2818690 - 07/15/09 09:40 AM
Re: Who is neoqb?
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Whatever the founding company, there's a dev group behind RoF, that started the development under "Genadish" name, then had to find other founding.... and if the return on invest doesn't show, you can bet on the end of RoF... you wont loose...
Do you remember what happened recently to a development studio, that had a long and succesfull history behing, and that was founded by the largest software company in the world???... you know, the studio that developped the FS serie... Yes, I remember- but I can still play FSX and FS2004- Can't I? But you won't be playing ROF if Neoqb goes the way of " you know, the studio that developed the FS serie..."
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Exodus
by RedOneAlpha. 04/18/24 05:46 PM
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