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#2675256 - 02/18/09 04:35 PM Re: Installed an HD3850 AGP 512mb Card and now all my 3D textures are not rendered in EE ***** [Re: GrizzlyT]  
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Hello Bodhammer,
many thanks for this awesome work!!! EE1 now runs fine on my ATi HD 3850 AGP. I'll stilll have to test it on the GTX 260.

OT: I'll just call it EE1 from now on, because the full name is no more EECH1, but more something like EEACHHH wink
EE

#2675397 - 02/18/09 08:21 PM Re: Installed an HD3850 AGP 512mb Card and now all my 3D textures are not rendered in EE [Re: Reticuli]  
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LEGEND, ive NEVER played this game, bought the cd the other day there and it never worked I was tearing my hair out for ages before i found this place and found out why it wouldnt work

ati 4670 i'm running it on
whoohoo
woot woot woot woot woot

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#2675438 - 02/18/09 09:09 PM Re: Installed an HD3850 AGP 512mb Card and now all my 3D textures are not rendered in EE [Re: Bodhammer]  
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Originally Posted By: Bodhammer
Originally Posted By: unforgiven


I am running a nvidia 6600GT, so it's not a 'new' card at all


Just as a datapoint - are you using older drivers or the latest? The fact that you are crashing totally suprises me given the slight change that I made in the code. Both functions are used in the codebase.

Just to confirm - you did not crash with 1.11 but you could not see textures and with 1.11.1 you crash?

Have you done a clean install from the CD and then applied AllMods as per this?
http://www.eechcentral.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation_guide


Thanks,
Bod


No, the crash was a part of the whole mix, along with the flashes, so you did nothing to me that had not been done, except get rid of the flashes. smile

As I said earlier, I did NOT do a clean install, as it were, because I have trouble with the logic behind it, as I don't know what is 'dirty' that was not 'dirty' in the exec just before this one, that I don't have, unfortunately, but which others are stepping back to and finding the issues gone... if you follow me.

Sorry if I sound cranky, but I bought EEAH when it came out, and EECH when it came out, and have been being told it was my <insert this, that or the other thing> that was the problem for that many years, lol, especially in multiplayer mode. When the really radical modding started, I stepped away for several years, because it just wasn't fun for me to never know if the thing was going to work or not, and the changes were weekly. Just get one thing sorted and another would pop up.

Anyway, I flew Thailand today for quite a while, and the only issue was an odd loss of rotor rpm, but I remember that from years ago, some bug or other. Luckily I caught it in time and relit the thing and saved my sorry arse from being toasted.

So that is one 'old' map, EEAH old, that seems to be okay, putting a hole in my theory about the old maps.

But your exec change didn't make anything worse, but quite the contrary... and I still want to know what you found that was different in campaign and skirmish from free flight.

#2675484 - 02/18/09 10:30 PM Re: Installed an HD3850 AGP 512mb Card and now all my 3D textures are not rendered in EE [Re: unforgiven]  
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Originally Posted By: unforgiven

... and I still want to know what you found that was different in campaign and skirmish from free flight.



I believe my fix is unrelated to the game mode. I believe it is at a much lower level. My suggestion is that if you don't want to re-install, you at least start with a clean eech.ini file. As I stated above, I got lucky with this fix based on a clue and I'm not really familiar with the code base. Based on some of the other threads here at SimHQ, I think the CTD is a different bug.

#2675578 - 02/19/09 12:45 AM Re: Installed an HD3850 AGP 512mb Card and now all my 3D textures are not rendered in EE [Re: Reticuli]  
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you musta been like this when you loaded it up and saw graphics

#2675588 - 02/19/09 01:13 AM Re: Installed an HD3850 AGP 512mb Card and now all my 3D textures are not rendered in EE [Re: GrizzlyT]  
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I've tried the test exe but still have the flashes/CTD. I've clean installed ver1.11 twice now with the same results....on two systems. One with an ATI video card and the other with nvidia. Both still have the flashing and the CTD terrain bug. This bug always happens at the same point or place that is. I usually can fly two missions before this happens.(if thats any clue). Its the third mission thats the killer for me.(most of the time)

I choose a mission
I pick a heli from the list
I click confirm
at that moment the CTD happens.

My best guess would be the heli is dropping thru the map when being spawned causing the off terrain error.

The one thing added to version 1.11 is the noise mapping. Could this be a clue to the flashing problem?I know setting it off in the ini has no effect on the flashing but maybe the code put in to deal with the noise mapping has a problem somewhere. I'm just grabbing at straws here.....

Rod smile

#2675776 - 02/19/09 01:15 PM Re: Installed an HD3850 AGP 512mb Card and now all my 3D textures are not rendered in EE [Re: LeadPaint]  
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Runs perfectly on ATI HD4870.
Thank you very much for letting me enjoy flying Hind!:)

#2676183 - 02/19/09 09:54 PM Re: Installed an HD3850 AGP 512mb Card and now all my 3D textures are not rendered in EE [Re: Dornil]  
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Hey guys,
i reinstalled my GTX 260 today on my C2Q instead of the 7950 GT, and did a clean fresh install of EE 1.11 on Windows XP.

I got a very big surprise: With the driver ForceWare Version 182.06 EE1 (version 1.11.0) shows everything, other than with older driver versions. Even WITHOUT the new fix (1.11.1 T) by Bodhammer. EE1 now shows again the whole thing: cockpit, landscape, sky... instead of just the HUD. (I had this with the older driver 180.41)

NVidia must have fixed that in the drivers!!! So i can say that NVidia other than ATi at least has an interest to support the old games, too. I think the NVidia support is way better than ATi's, but please ATi teach me better.

Therefore i now see what you all mean with the white flashes. They annoy and distract a lot!!! I did not have those with the 7950 GT and 1.11.0, and with the Radeon 3850 AGP + 1.11.1 T, there are none, too!

Okay, i will now install Bodhammer's test.exe and hope to make the white flashes disappear by that.

#2676296 - 02/20/09 12:48 AM Re: Installed an HD3850 AGP 512mb Card and now all my 3D textures are not rendered in EE [Re: Falcon99]  
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Wow this exe solved the graphics tearing problems on my Nvidia 9600 GT.No more problems whatever! I think this is going to solve most users issues now so no one will be stuck going to the inferior EECH 2.Great work!


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#2676363 - 02/20/09 02:45 AM Re: Installed an HD3850 AGP 512mb Card and now all my 3D textures are not rendered in EE [Re: Bodhammer]  
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Originally Posted By: Bodhammer
Originally Posted By: unforgiven

... and I still want to know what you found that was different in campaign and skirmish from free flight.



I believe my fix is unrelated to the game mode. I believe it is at a much lower level. My suggestion is that if you don't want to re-install, you at least start with a clean eech.ini file. As I stated above, I got lucky with this fix based on a clue and I'm not really familiar with the code base. Based on some of the other threads here at SimHQ, I think the CTD is a different bug.


lol, my, you ARE a close mouthed chap, eh? I was curious as to what it was you found. I am not a code person, just a curious person. And I STILL would like to know what you found... smile So far the thing is working fine, as of late anyway. Dunno why the CTDs stopped.

So come on, what WAS it you found?

#2676366 - 02/20/09 02:49 AM Re: Installed an HD3850 AGP 512mb Card and now all my 3D textures are not rendered in EE [Re: unforgiven]  
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Originally Posted By: unforgiven


So come on, what WAS it you found?

I'm not trying to be coy, I posted this last weekend about page 11 of the thread:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2673236/Re_Installed_an_HD3850_AGP_512.html#Post2673236


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#2676454 - 02/20/09 09:06 AM Re: Installed an HD3850 AGP 512mb Card and now all my 3D textures are not rendered in EE [Re: Bodhammer]  
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Hi there guys smile
I just wanted to thanx for the amazing news. Currently I own a X1950 but this very spring I am going to buy a 4870X2 , and I would really miss EE1 smile smile
thanx a lot to all those involved for this new release smile smile !!!
btw, where is the d/l link??
I checked on http://www.eechcentral.com/ , there is a 1.11 version, but it's 22/12/2008 ... is it the right one??
do I have to reinstall everything or I can just add the new exe????
thx again smile

#2676485 - 02/20/09 10:43 AM Re: Installed an HD3850 AGP 512mb Card and now all my 3D textures are not rendered in EE [Re: gr1mR36p3r]  
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Look at the third post by myself ( here ) for the download link for the test.exe.

Then look at the fith post to see how i got it running..others have done a fresh re-install..i never and have had np's what so-ever..(so far smile )

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Be Good..Be Strong..;)

#2677034 - 02/21/09 12:21 AM Re: Installed an HD3850 AGP 512mb Card and now all my 3D textures are not rendered in EE [Re: ukSleek]  
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Success!!! Thanks Bodhammer for your work. This is excellent. Solved the problem on a Core2 Quad CPU, running Vista 64. I will continue to test, but so far, so good. I was sure EECH was going to go unplayed. If not forever, at least for a while. Also, big ups to Arneh for another astounding effort.

Incidentally, I installed over the previous 1.10.2 setup without doing a clean install. At the time, I wasn't convinced this fix would work, so I went for the quick results. Now I've got the DCS:BS vs. EECH dilemma . . . and I love it.

#2677612 - 02/22/09 03:23 AM Re: Installed an HD3850 AGP 512mb Card and now all my 3D textures are not rendered in EE [Re: Re-Ordained]  
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Can we sticky the solution so people don't have to root through 16 pages to get the game running working?

Bodhammer, your work is only second to Arneh's, you have singlehandedly kept the EECH community alive. Well met.

As a small aside, will this fix be in the next release?

#2677679 - 02/22/09 06:45 AM Re: Installed an HD3850 AGP 512mb Card and now all my 3D textures are not rendered in EE [Re: Floydii]  
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I'm arriving late to this party but all good news on my backup machine running EECH with an ATI 3850. Thanks Bodhammer and Chamot!

Roll on EECH/EEAH. notworthy


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#2677719 - 02/22/09 10:56 AM Re: Installed an HD3850 AGP 512mb Card and now all my 3D textures are not rendered in EE [Re: Floydii]  
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Originally Posted By: Floydii
As a small aside, will this fix be in the next release?


Yes.

#2677864 - 02/22/09 05:52 PM Re: Installed an HD3850 AGP 512mb Card and now all my 3D textures are not rendered in EE [Re: Bodhammer]  
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ah, Bodhammer, so sorry... I missed that. This discussion has been taking place on a couple of different threads and I got lost.

Thanks for answering me... but why, I wonder, does it NOT do it in free flight mode?

anyway, thanks again for ferreting out a fix... mine has worked quite fine since then, so my only real problem has been dodging the Frogfoot in Taiwan...

#2677921 - 02/22/09 07:51 PM Re: Installed an HD3850 AGP 512mb Card and now all my 3D textures are not rendered in EE [Re: unforgiven]  
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I'm not sure what you mean, it is working in free flight mode for me. If something I said sounded like it was not, I apologize for the confusion.

Bod

#2678082 - 02/23/09 12:52 AM Re: Installed an HD3850 AGP 512mb Card and now all my 3D textures are not rendered in EE [Re: Bodhammer]  
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I think what unforgiven speaks of is the fact that the flashes were not present in free flight mode, only skrim/campaign modes. Is that not strange? But thanks to you Bodhammer the flashes are no more. smile

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